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RE: Question Please - 10/25/2007 8:10:54 PM

JDcraks

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Can a Dom claim to own a slave if the slave does not live with the Dom and visa versa...

A Dom can claim anything he wants to. I mean...after all, this is the internet.....

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RE: Question Please - 10/25/2007 8:11:07 PM

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Anyone can claim anything. Doesn't San Francisco have an Emperor of the Untied States? What matters is if what is claimed is recongized as claimed. So if the Slave answers "How high, Master?" when her master asks her to jump, the only real difference is a few miles.

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RE: Question Please - 10/25/2007 8:23:07 PM

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What makes you think that living together is a condition of ownership?

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RE: Question Please - 10/25/2007 8:49:48 PM

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Can a Dom claim to own a slave if the slave does not live with the Dom and visa versa...

in my case - i have 2 Doms who own this daughtersubmissive, Daddy and my fiance

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RE: Question Please - 10/26/2007 1:33:36 AM

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I don't currently live with my Master, nor will I be living with him when i relocate this week. However, he still owns me, It wouldn't change if we did live together.

I don't see what living together has to do with ownership.
There are many M/s couples on here that do not live together.

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RE: Question Please - 10/26/2007 1:52:02 AM

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It would depend on your definition of slave and your definition of ownership. In ancient Rome and in other more recent history, slaves never lived with their owners, but stayed in their own quarters. They are owned to serve. Period.

Fast forward to 2007, here in the south there are LOTS of 'snowbirds' who own property here and other property in thier home state. The ownership of that property is never in question just because they are not physically residing in the house, and they only have to claim a primary residence for tax purposes.

i am owned. i serve every day. my service is in how i conduct my life to honor my Master. We do not live together, we do not live in the same state. When i visit my Master, my service becomes more intimate but i am not less owned when i return to my home. i will not be more owned when i move in with Him, just happier.

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RE: Question Please - 10/26/2007 2:01:06 AM

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I have never lived 24/7 with a slave. I like my own space too much. I still owned them and they served me when I wanted them to.

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RE: Question Please - 10/26/2007 2:11:59 AM

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so how can one person truly "own" another if they do not live in the same household???

A by what right gives the Dom to claim anything he wants?

i/m no less my grown daughter's mama because she now lives across town from me.

i am Daddy's property. no matter if i'm here and he's at his household, no matter if we're out in public, no matter if i'm in hell visiting my relatives in another state and he's still in this one. 24/7, i belong to him. i just dont get to see him every day.

i accepted him as my owner, therefore he has the right to claim me as his. "till the 12th of never" he says. *smiles softly*

kitten, who still is shaky and should be sleeping....

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RE: Question Please - 10/26/2007 2:56:58 AM

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Wonder what Knight and Kyra would say to this question. They live many, many miles apart - different countries even - and I've never had any doubt what their dynamic is. Distance doesn't have to mean jack. It sure didn't for Master and I............luci

Nor for us, except it gets harder and harder to be far away.

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Edited to add: I just want to add that it is so unnecessary to have to live together to be owned. There are people right here on CM who live nowhere near each other and they are more "owned" than others who do or who live very near each other. That criteria has zero to do with it. I mentioned Knight and Kyra above but there are many others. Does anyone here doubt that ownedgirlie is really owned? She lives two hours from "Mr. Wonderful." Think that means she is less owned? Give me a break. Saying a couple has to live together for one to be owned is certainly not accurate at all...........luci

Heya luci...2 hours is about to turn into 15 minutes in the next few months. Maybe I'll be more owned then

Some do believe a residence must be shared. I have been told I can't really be his slave because I do not live with him *shrugs*. My heart is enslaved to him, as is my spirit. Those in a relationship know what their dynamic is, and he and I have no question about ours.

So for us, yes it is possible to be owned and not share a home. For others, it is not. How's that for clarity?!

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RE: Question Please - 10/26/2007 3:21:23 AM

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Bravo...........................I totally agree ones relationship is what you make of it,and should only matter to you and yours!Screw what other people think they're not in it!

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RE: Question Please - 10/26/2007 7:55:20 AM

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Can a Dom claim to own a slave if the slave does not live with the Dom and visa versa...

If that is what you believe, then for you...sure.

Others don't believe it...Knight and kyra, ownedgirlie and "Mr. Wonderful" are just two great examples. Others have also spoken up. I have had 3 submissives and out of those 3, only 1 lived with me for any length of time. Ownership is what the people involved make it...2 of my 3 submissives did a fine job of living within the D/s dynamic that we created. 1 submissive had a more difficult time with it but that was because she was also, unbeknown to me, fostering a relationship with her former owner. But you know what...she could have been doing that while living with me, right under my nose. Not because I am blind but because I am one of those dominants (and humans) who trusts what someone is telling me, especially when they are good at covering their ass. Proximity would not have made a difference in this case.

So, as stated at the beginning of this paragraph, it comes down to what you need to feel owned and then finding a dominant who agrees with your viewpoint or one who is similar enough in all other areas that you can begin moving together toward what the two (or three or whatever) of you decide is necessary for "ownership" to be in place.

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RE: Question Please - 10/26/2007 8:12:22 AM

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one thing i have come to see for sure is relationships are not constants they are variations of passing moments. They adapt and change as time passes . in other words one might own something today and loose it tomorrow.

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RE: Question Please - 10/26/2007 10:01:52 AM

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The dynamics of such a relationship are determined between you and your Master. You can be anything you want by those terms. As a slave you do as you are told because it is his wish for it to be done.
As previously stated it is called whatever you want and it is whatever you define it as. The rest is logistics and semantics.

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RE: Question Please - 10/26/2007 10:05:54 AM

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Can a Dom claim to own a slave if the slave does not live with the Dom and visa versa...

Yes. Even married couples opt to live apart. You may want to take a look at this article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/04/garden/04lat.html?_r=1&fta=y&oref=login

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RE: Question Please - 10/26/2007 11:39:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl
The Dom can claim what he wants if the sub gives him that right.

Just as a Submissive can claim being owned if the Dominant gives that privilege.

Lifestyel Ownership.. Own and Owned is a mutual consenual arranagement between those in the relationship. What determents exist are between those in the relationship. Some can never own or be owned by anything less than living with the person in question. For others this issue is not factor in the ownership. Attempting to established universal ownership requirements is like trying to bottle all the air we breathe.

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RE: Question Please - 10/26/2007 4:35:16 PM

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OK got a question as well, how does one know that their are a submissive?

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RE: Question Please - 10/26/2007 4:36:52 PM

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Not sure. But go flirt with a Dom/Domme, and see if you like it or not. If you are tempted to hit them, then you are probably not.

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RE: Question Please - 10/26/2007 4:45:27 PM

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~chuckles at Roses~

But after you are tempted to hit them, if you are immediately turned on by the thought of them forcing you to surrender ... you probably are.

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RE: Question Please - 10/26/2007 4:46:10 PM

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If you feel both, you might be a switch. Or you want to hit some, and surrender to others.

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RE: Question Please - 10/26/2007 5:37:42 PM

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