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RE: Losing my religion - 10/24/2007 9:41:01 PM

maybemaybenot

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If my relationship hinged on me changing my spiritual belief system, the relationship would be damaged from the start. So for me no, I absolutely would not. My religous beliefs are a core part of who I am. If one wants to be with me, they respect my spirituality.

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/24/2007 10:28:36 PM

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Short answer, no. I just happened to be lucky and had converted to something other than I was raised in 7 years before I met mine who I am married to. He just happened to have been raised in this religion. I have to say that I had been in many major relationships where I had wished we practised our faith together. Many had none and the rest either didn't practise or had no faith at all. Though if we were to divorce (bad word after 4 mos of marriage) I would still continue to practise that which I converted to. I chose it for me and only me as it fit for me. I can never be anything other than true to myself.

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/25/2007 10:55:29 AM

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I wouldn't pretend to convert, because when someone converts they are making promises to a religion, (or even to a deity.) that they don't believe in. Marriage should not start with lies. Even if your spouse knows the truth, what about your spouses family? your family? What about your kids? (in the Jewish faith, if the mother isn't Jewish, the kids wouldn't be considered Jews. Though if she converts I think the kids would be considered.) I once dated a guy named Jeff. sweet guy, ( he had a major foot fetish.) At one point we talked about marriage. He asked if I would convert, I said "no, I am happy as a pagan, I don't want to convert to something I don't believe in." He replied that our kids wouldn't be considered Jewish, unless I converted, namely before the kids are born. long story short that was one of the many things that broke up our relationship. (that and the fact he was a stick in the mud.)

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/25/2007 1:21:19 PM

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No need to change religions. Yu can go to church as an endless guest. As long as you dont shout down the minister or something, no one really cares. As for holidays, one can simply respect and partake in anothers day, but you dont have to go thru a process or write papers declaring yourself.
Ive visited churchs just to see what it was like. I enjoyed ging to places I havetn been. The only one I didnt really like was the holy rollers. It would have been more interesting had they had snakes or something.

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/25/2007 1:23:08 PM

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R.E.M.

Oh, life is bigger
It's bigger than you
And you are not me
The lengths that I will go to
The distance in your eyes
Oh no, I've said too much
I set it up

(chorus)
That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight, I'm
Losing my religion
Trying to keep up with you
And I don't know if I can do it
Oh no, I've said too much
I haven't said enough
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

Every whisper
Of every waking hour I'm
Choosing my confessions
Trying to keep an eye on you
Like a hurt lost and blinded fool, fool
Oh no, I've said too much
I set it up
Consider this
Consider this
The hint of the century
Consider this
The slip that brought me
To my knees failed
What if all these fantasies
Come flailing around
Now I've said too much
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try

But that was just a dream
That was just a dream

(repeat chorus)

But that was just a dream
Try, cry, why try?
That was just a dream
Just a dream, just a dream
Dream

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/25/2007 1:45:10 PM

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People who are religious typically aren't attracted to me. Formal religion isn't important at all to me, so if there were someone who was absolutely compatible in every way, who wanted me to convert to whatever religion, yeah, why not, as long as it didn't cross my "oh now that's just crazy" line.

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/25/2007 4:08:31 PM

KiandPhoenix

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I didn't read the other responses, but I have to ask. . .why would you have to change? I am vaguely Christian. Phoenix is Pagan. We live a wonderful life, we incorporate all our beliefs in our holidays, or celebrate each others holidays with them. As long as you can respect someone else’s right to believe in what they want to believe, and not insist that your way is the only way to believe, then there should not be a problem.

I never had a problem with my partners believing in a different invisible man (or woman) in the sky than I do, and I never will. I wont force my opinions on them and they don’t force their opinions on me. I call it respect.

~Ki

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/25/2007 4:30:59 PM

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I would never have a partner who did not mesh or at least totaly respect my spiritual views.

Thankfuly I have been blessed with patience to wait for those who have the same ideas and feeling on spirituality.

Our closeness is so much better due to the fact that we are also spiritualy bonded.

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/25/2007 4:43:09 PM

Jacobthm

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Hell no. I generally don't advertize my beliefs, nor do I expect anyone else too. I've had partners that were of different religeons than I and things got along nicely. However even in the same faith (i.e. pagan, christian, jewish, etc...) there can be different interpretations of how the world works. By asking someone to change religeons you're asking them to change their worldview, in both the macro and microcosm. In my case that's been developed twisted and changed through my personal experience. Thus you might as well ask me to lie to myself about what I see in the world around me. Fox news tries hard enough to do that for me.

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/26/2007 4:21:15 AM

Twicehappy2x

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Absolutely not!

First somebody i would accept a collar from would be aware of my spiritual preference and be comfortable with it or i would never accept said collar.

Second if somebody were to ask that of me once i was collared then they would not be the type of person i needed to be collared to anyway.

I am druid, born and raised. My religion is such a huge part of how i live i do not think it would be possible for me to change. In truth Scooter and Jewel have made certain adjustments in their lifestyle to accommodate me.

They grin when i take bugs out instead of killing them even though Jewel hates bugs. They buy me seeds and stuff to feed the birds, smile when i fix the frog swimming water, shake their heads when i talk bees into walking on my arm and warn folks who visit "twice talks to everything, no, she is not crazy, it is just her way". Jewel gave up her thread racks so i could have them for drying herbs for medicine and cooking.

Scooter says goodbye and waves as i greet the stars every morning and waits patiently in the evening when i feed my stray cat friend and talk to my ancestors before coming to bed.

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/26/2007 4:40:52 AM

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As a follower of Daoist philosophy, i manage to blend into alot of different situations and rarely call attention to the fact that i am not Christian. Works pretty well so far...

i have a friend who WAS a Master of 3 slaves living a very hedonistic lifestyle. One day, He became "saved" and in turn had his slaves saved as well. He insisted His House all be "Born Again" and his slaves complied. Sadly, he decided the BDSM life was against god and he renounced it and released His slaves to marry a pious christian woman. i still recieve messages from him to repent and be saved differing only from the other messages he sends that tell me i am going to hell and that i am already dead. Hmmm.....

Would i change my religion? No, i don't have one nor do i need one~

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/29/2007 1:03:17 PM

slavemaia

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quote:

ORIGINAL: slavejali

Religion Religion would I change it? What is it? Which one? where? who? how? To believe or not to believe, that is the question. Believe in what? Who said what? When? I feel like wearing black today. Does that change who I am? Today a doctor, tomorrow a gardener? Who am I really? How can we know the unknowable? Which text is right? Searching. Searching. Practicing. What? I am. Change that? How?

Nice to see you here again, jali.

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/29/2007 2:23:26 PM

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My brother did, he converted to the mormon faith for his then soon to be wife, and now is wife.

Since I am an atheist and don't believe in religion or seek religious partners, I doubt the question applies to me.

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Plain and simply would you change your religion to be with your partner?

Not anything to do with bdsm, just if for whatever reason to be with your partner you would have to change, would you?

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/29/2007 3:55:41 PM

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Belief isn't always a matter of choice. I could put my hand over my heart and swear to believe in God, but I'd still be an atheist. The only thing that could change my mind is hard evidence, and religion by definition fails to provide that.

So the only real question is, would I fake it for a partner? No way. To quote Teale, "Not caring whether a thing is true so long as it makes you feel good [or in this case, so long as it keeps your partner happy] is as bad as not caring where you got your money so long as you have got it."

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/29/2007 4:15:07 PM

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Plain and simply would you change your religion to be with your partner?

If god's existence was proven or disproven, I'd remain in the 'really don't care' bracket. Unless he started doing me favours, then maybe I'd take notice.

Who knows, I like to think I'm open to reassessing my values, and at 34 I'm far from the finished article. Never say never, but at the moment, I don't think there's a woman on earth who could tempt me out of the 'really don't care' bracket.

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/30/2007 12:59:34 AM

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Plain and simply would you change your religion to be with your partner?

Not anything to do with bdsm, just if for whatever reason to be with your partner you would have to change, would you?

Religion is fantasy and superstition, no woman in the world, no matter if her tits stand up and say hello or her butt is so firm I can use it to park my bike ius going to change my mind on that.

If god actually tapped me on the shoulder and said, listen son, if you don't change your attitude I've got a fork of lightening here I might be tempted to use, I doubt I'd change. Anyway, why would I choose a mean and sadistic Judeo-Christian god when a muslim god is offering me 24 virgins?

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/30/2007 1:21:51 AM

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Plain and simply would you change your religion to be with your partner?

Not anything to do with bdsm, just if for whatever reason to be with your partner you would have to change, would you?

Change my religion?...perhaps....Denounce Christ and /or God...never.

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/30/2007 6:40:08 AM

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quote:

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Plain and simply would you change your religion to be with your partner?

Not anything to do with bdsm, just if for whatever reason to be with your partner you would have to change, would you?

Yes, I would. It's not the label that matters; it's what you believe in.

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/30/2007 7:10:17 AM

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You failed to mention how attractive she is? Even though I was voted the Dom Of Dom's for the last six consecutive years at the Huntley, Illinois annual Dom-off and turkey testical festival, I think it is still possible for me to be somewhat manipulated by a woman's beauty.

If she's hot, sucks a grand dick....Enjoys anal that tickles her heart....And all the other crud that engorges the Domidong....I can see no problem in me buckling to agree with her desire to give the vast nothingness that surrounds us a specific name....Sounds fun!

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RE: Losing my religion - 10/30/2007 7:12:37 AM

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Thank you all for your repsonses.
Just realised i never even answered my own question
I'm not religious, christened church of England, (the water burnt me), confirmed methodist, (the communion wafer choked me).
Seriously no i would not adopt a religion for anyone.
I like the idea of confessing though - yummy

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