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sammiebabygirl -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/21/2007 7:52:30 PM)

I don't cheat. It's the married men I sleep with that do. [;)]
 
jen




TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/21/2007 7:59:30 PM)

I will be up front and honest and admit to having an affair with a married man, I also have been the recepient of being cheated upon as well. But make note of this!...This happened when I was in my 20's and also as a "vanilla" woman.So what does that say to you about just people in general?..It has nothing to do with BDSM and a lot to do with being simply a human being....I am sorry about whatever has happened in your life that created such a bitter statement and cynacism..but you might first look within yourself to know what created such angst..ie: your choices in men, naivete,or your past baggage...simply explore and know thyself..Tempting




slaveluci -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/21/2007 8:11:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: apiercedkitty
i'm one of those rare ppl who believe in being honest...

Just an aside here and not directed toward you specifically, piercedkitty, but.........contrary to what many posters here seem to believe, not everyone is dishonest.  I read many times how people tend to feel that "most" people are not that honest.  Maybe I've lived a charmed life (yeah right) but I have met scads of people (in and out of the "lifestyle") who are good, honest, upfront folks.  I'm intrigued by those who have the impression that most people seem to do alot of lying.  Maybe I've just had the good fortune to meet good people but I wouldn't say that it's "rare" for people to be honest.  Not at all.  Just a thought.............luci




marieToo -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/21/2007 8:13:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl

I don't cheat. It's the married men I sleep with that do. [;)]
 
jen


Ha! Ha! Ha!




proudsub -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/21/2007 8:23:54 PM)

I've always been open on here about cheating in the past.  I was one of the ones who was afraid to tell Hubby about my desires so i researched BDSM on my own and had some online experiences for 2 yrs, then a real life dom for 6 mo. When Hubby found out we had a long talk about it and He forgave me and wanted to learn to be my Dom.  My biggest mistake was not talking to Him first.




kc692 -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/21/2007 8:26:18 PM)

~~FR~~~

To the OP:  So you think that because we practice bdsm, that automatically makes us less prone to all the behaviors( ie, cheating) that the vanillas do?  I see just as much of "my wife doesn't understand me so lets (regular) f**k on aff, actually more so that I see here.  I am married, but I include my husband, however, there are reasons that other people do cheat, and actually, it's not my call whether it's right or moral, it's actually none of my business.  The only think I do think is that if they are married or involved, they should let the other know.....then it is up for the two adults to decide, not me.  Not for me to judge them either....sometimes there are actually reasons that "make sense" or so at least in my opinion.  But again, not my call.

I agree with the others, sounds like you have just ended a hurtful relationship, and for your sake, (and I mean this gently, not sarcastically, since sometimes tonality is hard on the boards) I hope you find the calmness and peace you need after the closure.  It's truly a bitch to hurt, and I hope it gets better for you.




secretagentgirl -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/21/2007 8:27:20 PM)

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so if someone gave you a gun and said it is ok to shoot your self cause it feels good would you lol i mean come on thats lame excuse i guess someone only thinks about themselves

Huh?  I don't get the analogy.  At all.  Nobody is telling me to do anything and I'm not doing anything that ends in my own death.  Or anyone elses.
If what you're asking is whether it is OK to do anything that feels good, well, I might just have to say yes as long as I am not hurting anyone else.
And personally, I don't mind being a little selfish in some aspects of my life.  I am very self-less in others.

I do see the OP was a first-time poster and I stupidly fell for the bait.  I just can't help getting on my "everyone should have sex as much as they can" soapbox. [;)]




Invictus754 -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/21/2007 8:31:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Justlovemeplz


Since you felt compelled to choose a profile name like you have, you have WAAAY bigger issues to overcome than whether other people on this site cheat.
 
Do the sum of all inside angles of all triangles add up to 180 degrees?  Most people would say yes, but that is true only in some geometries like Euclidean geometry.  Try this - take a globe, draw a 90 degree angle at the North pole, and extend both sides down to the equator.  Then, draw a line between those two equatorial points.  Viola!  You now have a triangle with three 90 angles.  
 
Why the geometry lesson?  Because you are asking a question that is predicated by everyone having the same moral basis.  My morals are not the same as yours, so even if I have six wives and I don't tell any of them that I am fucking the waitress in the truckstop, I'm not cheating. 
 
Live in my world - cheating doesn't exist.  LOL.




Hergirl0824 -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/21/2007 8:52:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Justlovemeplz

Simple question: How many people on this site cheat?

Guess we shall never know the real statistics but from numerous conversations over 20 years on this site and others I feel comfortable saying the majority cheats. Very few men are single looking for their soul mate on here but perhaps a few might be. Instead you’ll find them married and cheating giving the excuse that the wife wouldn’t understand my needs and I want to maintain my financial stability or maybe divorced looking for that perfect sub to serve him since his ex wife didn’t.  Of course men don’t have to look far to find so many women looking for their knight in shining armor and being submissive is just icing on the cake. Now here’s the kicker, there are those women who don’t care if your married or even if they our. Here’s another high quality trait for us BDSM’er that we should be proud of! (NOT) God knows we wouldn’t want to take responsibility for our sick distorted behaviors.
This lifestyle is supposed to be about Trust, Communication and Respect but instead it’s consumed with Disrespect and Deceit which if you’re in a current relationship while searching online already makes you NO different than any common immoral person. We should be the part of society that stands out in a crowd with values and morals! We talk about safety but yet we put our own families and ourselves in danger by our reckless behaviors.  
To simply trust someone you just met online or even spoke to for 6 months and feel you know them completely is absolutely absurd! Being to trusting will get you killed because whether you want to believe it or not there are those out there who have a totally different agenda. Haven’t you heard “I thought I was such a good judge of character” from the many victims (male & female) that have physical and emotional scares.
Look inside yourself! Are you guilty? Do you owe yourself and others an apology because you compromised your beliefs and it had adverse effects on friends or strangers? Do the right thing and stand up for the lifestyle that you profess to love. Have respect for yourself! Stop the cheating!! Handle your own situation first before adding someone else to it.  

 



well i know that i will sleep much better tonight knowing that we have such find upstanding people on this site looking out for my moral best interests without even me asking them to....does my heart good to know that there are those out there who can take my "sins" upon their shoulders so i no longer have to think for myself [:D]




Invictus754 -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/21/2007 8:59:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl
I don't cheat. It's the married men I sleep with that do. [;)]
 
jen


This has always intrigued me...how do you cheat if you are asleep? [:D]




MissMagnolia -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/21/2007 9:11:39 PM)

HUH? You've been online here and other places for 20 years, and this is your first contribution to this particular forum? You haven't asked a valid question (I don't consider are you guilty as valid), just blown up everyones arse with your personal definitions of morality.

Do the right thing and stand up for the lifestyle that you profess to love. Have respect for yourself! Stop the cheating!!
This lifestyle is supposed to be about Trust, Communication and Respect
 
Who the fuck made you the morality police? Why do you think that this "lifestyle" is something special? It's just a life, like any other.

Your definitions are yours, maybe someone elses, but maybe not. What makes you think you have the definitive word on morals, or lack thereof, of thousands of people you don't even know?

Mind your own business and get a hobby.[8|]




dcnovice -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/21/2007 9:14:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Invictus754

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ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl
I don't cheat. It's the married men I sleep with that do. [;)]
 
jen


This has always intrigued me...how do you cheat if you are asleep? [:D]


Multitasking.




LightHeartedMaam -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/21/2007 9:29:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice


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ORIGINAL: Invictus754

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ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl
I don't cheat. It's the married men I sleep with that do. [;)]
 
jen


This has always intrigued me...how do you cheat if you are asleep? [:D]


Multitasking.


I had a similar situation.  I doing laundry with my married sub and before we knew it, we had had socks.   I just happened. 




sammiebabygirl -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/21/2007 9:32:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Invictus754
This has always intrigued me...how do you cheat if you are asleep? [:D]


See, they are the ones cheating. I am asleep, so I am totally innocent. ROFLMAO!!!!! I cannot even type that with a straight face.
 
jen




corsetgirl -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/21/2007 9:42:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RRafe

Believe it or no, I'm actually single.

I HAVE turned down married women on bdsm sites in the past. Even if it didn't disrupt my moral sense of peace-just not worth the headaches.


I agree with you.  No fuss, mess and drama!




proudsub -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/21/2007 9:50:35 PM)

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I doing laundry with my married sub and before we knew it, we had had socks.   I just happened


Didn't your mom teach you that that's what happens when you sit on the machine during the spin cycle for too long?[:D]




iammachine -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/22/2007 12:11:50 AM)

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How many people on this site cheat?


Define "cheating" please. [;)]

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Very few men are single looking for their soul mate on here


Define "soul mate". Do soul mates really exist? Some say they do, some say they don't. Who's to say we each only have one?

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Now here’s the kicker, there are those women who don’t care if your married or even if they are


That's true.

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Here’s another high quality trait for us BDSM’er that we should be proud of!


I agree with this slightly out of context statement. [:D]

I am proud of the progressive views that some people have. I am perfectly content with people that choose to have polyamorous relationships. Please note, there is a distinct difference between being poly and "cheating". You can't cheat on a partner and then hide behind being poly, polyamoury requires knowledge, disclosure and consent.

Conversely, I am not cool with any kind of dishonest behaviour; whether it's cheating or a fib.

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This lifestyle is supposed to be about Trust, Communication and Respect


Funny, I thought those were really just kind of general values that pretty much apply to living life in general. I thought this lifestyle was about kink.

Damn, I guess I'm in the wrong place.

Don't get me wrong, trust, communication and respect are paramount. I don't think we're special in that regard, though, everyone can probably stand to benefit from an appreciation of those traits..

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God knows we wouldn’t want to take responsibility for our sick distorted behaviors.


This is off topic, but some street preachers gave me some fruit snacks, which I found in my purse today. I was talking on the phone with a diabetic friend at the time, and I thought, "God loves you, have some sugar!" Then I thought... hey, my buddy is diabetic. So I told him that god loved me, and hated him, because I was given god's love in the form of sugary goodness, and that's death in a small package to him. [:D]

Anyway, "deviant" sexually behaviour is no longer considered sick. At least, not in the clinical sense. Where have you been?

As for distorted, I kinda like it! Life would be boring if we were all made from the same cookie cutter.

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We should be the part of society that stands out in a crowd with values and morals!


_insert Butthead "uhhh huh huh" laugh here_

Yeah, that ain't happening. We're a part of society that likes to do "naughty" things to eachother. Albeit we have esoterically (and subjectively!) imposed standards of "good" ways to do those naughty things, but we still do stuff that would make most people blush.

I don't give a damn what anyone else thinks about my moral fiber, as long as I am content with myself. I think I'm a pretty stand up kinda gal.... that likes to flog the snot out of people! Woo!

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We talk about safety but yet we put our own families and ourselves in danger by our reckless behaviors. 


Define "reckless".

I don't like the word "safe" really. Well, not so much these days, anyway. Just what is safe, really? There is risk involved in everything that we do, from drinking a bottle of water, to suspending a buddy from their ankles. Then again, I'm a RACK kinda gal, and I'd like to think I take as many precautios as are feasible.

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Look inside yourself! Are you guilty?


Oh yeah, and it feels good.

Does that mean I need a spanking?

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Do you owe yourself and others an apology because you compromised your beliefs


What beliefs, and what compromise?

My standards and ideals have changed over time, it's called growth. I haven't compromised a damn thing, however.

I can appreciate the fact that every action I take has consequences. Some consequences are nice, some not so much. I am perfectly capable of accepting the consequences of my actions, and behaving accordingly. As such, I tend to be pretty handy at doing stuff that I won't regret, though during those rare cases where I am met with unforeseen circumstances, I'm prepared to handle that, too. It's called accountability, and learning from mistakes as well as successes.

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Have respect for yourself!


I think I've got that covered, but thanks for the encouragement!




iammachine -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/22/2007 12:21:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LightHeartedMaam

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice


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ORIGINAL: Invictus754

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ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl
I don't cheat. It's the married men I sleep with that do. [;)]
 
jen


This has always intrigued me...how do you cheat if you are asleep? [:D]


Multitasking.


I had a similar situation.  I doing laundry with my married sub and before we knew it, we had had socks.   I just happened. 


!!!! OMG, thanks for the lawl! Funny stuff! [:D]




ELUSIVE1 -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/22/2007 12:36:12 AM)

'We should be the part of society that stands out in a crowd with values and morals!'


this line suggests to me that the OP tries to 'justify' her kinks with a superiority complex--BS-we all have our proclivities for things deemed 'out of the ordinary' by the vanilla world...these don't make us any better or more special than others...(rolls eyes thinking of 'one true way') As for cheaters, well I am not in a monogamous relationship, nor will I ever be, so no I am not a cheater...I have a problem with the whole idea of monogamy, I can and do love more than one person at any given time...that doesn't mean I am doing the belly rub (B2B) with all or any of them...[imho] Monogamy is not required in a committed relationship,LOYALTY is paramount




Twicehappy2x -> RE: Questions about BDSM'er cheating (10/22/2007 4:06:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Justlovemeplz

Now here’s the kicker, there are those women who don’t care if your married or even if they our.

Look inside yourself! Are you guilty? Do you owe yourself and others an apology because you compromised your beliefs and it had adverse effects on friends or strangers? Do the right thing and stand up for the lifestyle that you profess to love. Have respect for yourself! Stop the cheating!! Handle your own situation first before adding someone else to it.


Guilty as charged. When i was searching i really did not care if the guy was married, not one bit!
 
Provided of course that i got to meet his wife and she was ok with it and also poly willing.
 
Do i think i owe anybody an apology for that, of course not. Why should i? Because marriage is sacred? Not in my religion.
 
Has it harmed anyone? Not that i know of. Her kids and grandkids all like me, her oldest adores me, never forgets a gift for my birthday or Mother's day. Scooter has not suffered, the folks he works with think he is a very lucky happy fellow, having a wife and another woman. 
 
My family, kids, grandkids are all happy as long as i am happy. So in what way are they harmed?
 
What happened, were you burned by a married individual? 




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