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RE: seeking guidance and/or advice - 10/18/2007 7:50:01 PM   
FullfigRIMaam


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I like the re do on the profile...  I'd make the fantasy scenarios later in your profile instead of primary paragraph, but at least you seem like a potential gentleman now instead of just cute dude.  

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LadyHibiscus
I think that these days bottom players tend to get sneered at as merely "players" and somehow not sincere because they don't want some kind of TPE situation.  Frankly, I MISS bottom players!
When I attended a play party, I didn't see any bottom sneered at, but maybe I wasn't listening close enough.   I can't imagine why you'd miss bottoms, unless you're not attending play parties.   It was my impression that is the majority of the males available at play parties, bottom players that is.   Of course there is nothing wrong with a bottom who has no interest in obeying/serving outside of play, but that makes life a lil more difficult in that I think one can find those anywhere, anytime, in vanilla or lifestyle setting.   M

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RE: seeking guidance and/or advice - 10/18/2007 8:21:35 PM   
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Ah, it's true that I rarely go to parties outside my scene family, and MCF ones that I am hosting, but I see more DO ME boys than bottoms out there!  Granted, the line can be murky.

I think there is a certain amount of pressure,  since there is so much negative talk about "players", to say, oh I am a submissive.   There are times (rare) when I have some sympathy for men who are new to the scene and only have online experience!  I can see where a guy would say he was a submissive figuring that he wouldn't get any play time if he just said, Hey, can I try some CBT? 

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RE: seeking guidance and/or advice - 10/18/2007 10:58:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MsubseeksDomme

I think the reason that I may be giving mixed messages in my profile is because this is all very new to me.  So i am trying to convey all the thoughts and ideas that i have had to this point.  To be completel;y honest, i am not sure of the difference between bottom, sub, slave etc.  This is where  am looking for guidance at this point i think.  i probably have not been havcing much success here since i don't know what role i fall into, and it will take time to discover that.  perhaps there is another site that is more suited for someone like myself who is in discovery phase.  It seems most here are fairly experienced or knowledgeable of their desires, roles, place etc.



There are plenty of educational bdsm sites out there that can give you some general advice, hell even terminology can be confusing.  But this forum is not for anyone of any paticular level, we all were new once too.  Stick around, just remember, what you want isn't what everyone else wants and it's ok to be you.
good luck.
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RE: seeking guidance and/or advice - 10/19/2007 6:17:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RumpusParable

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I think that these days bottom players tend to get sneered at as merely "players" and somehow not sincere because they don't want some kind of TPE situation. Frankly, I MISS bottom players! I wish that folks in the scene who just want to play for the fun of it, for the endorphin rush, for whatever reason, would be up front about it, and not feel pressured into asking for something they don't want to give.

I don't want to venture into the dreaded Semantic Zone, but yes, it's okay to not be a submissive!


I completely agree with this.

Be honest about what you want -- that is the only way to even have a shot at it.

But the venue you pursue your desires in does matter.

If you are into bondage, if that's your main thing, join bondage club no the masters and slave group. If you are hot on SM start going to dungeons or volunteer at BDSM organizations when they need a bottom to beat for a demonstration so you get seen and known as a cool reactive bottom.

Can someone even just choose "bottom" or "top" on collarme or is it just sub or dom? If it's only sub or dom this might not be the best venue then because immediately you are being forced to declare an identity that isn't really true.




While agreeing some with that which both of you are saying, I think it's good to also acknowledge that there certainly is a difference between someone comign across as looking only to bottom and someone being "do me" or a "player" of some sort.

Personally, I've zero problem with someone only a bottom and actively seeking topping.  To have such would be plainly hypocritical as that's often my own role haha, I'm much someone who is often looking just to bottom!  At time I just want a few physical itches scratched by someone willing. :)

But, those that fall more into the "do me" territory do grate and especially those that put themselves across as some form of submissive but are in reality purely bottoms.  This puts me off with an absolute quickness.

The lack of naming options here on CM can be a leader to confusion, I agree, but is not one hard to get around.  

Nothing wrong with being a bottom, just be clear in that's what you are.  When the mood strikes I love some non-PE scening with the right person(s), but don't mis-sell yourself to me.


I agree completely. To avoid miscommunications and misunderstandings, knowing whether you're a bottom or a submissive is crucial when seeking a compatible Woman. The two are vastly different - - at least in my eyes.



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RE: seeking guidance and/or advice - 10/19/2007 9:07:38 PM   
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What about submissives that really have no interest in providing service, or that don't want to be seen as a service submissive ONLY -- how do they best promote themselves? 


This question deserves a thread all its own.

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RE: seeking guidance and/or advice - 10/19/2007 11:11:20 PM   
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This question deserves a thread all its own.
Well, you have the power, go for it!  LOL.    M

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