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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

There is nothing wrong, yes Democrates do have a majority but the not a large enough one, the GOP has prevented passages of bills. 

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
Armchair quarterback?  Anyone who wasn't an idiot predicted exactly what has happened in Iraq and exactly why.  Only YOUR quarterback was too stupid to see it, hell he isn't even a decent armchair quarterback!

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
all of your Democratic Congresspeople who had the authority to do so voted to give our quarterback the full authority to call that play.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
all of your Democratic Congresspeople who had the authority to do so voted to give our quarterback the full authority to call that play.

LMAO

I just said on another board how people in this country see politics as nothing more than a football game and all that counts is making sure their team wins at all costs regardless of circumstances.

ROTFLMFAO

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all of your Democratic Congresspeople who had the authority to do so voted to give our quarterback the full authority to call that play

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The authorization was sought by President George W. Bush. Introduced as H.J.Res. 114 (Public Law 107–243), it passed the House on October 10, 2002 by a vote of 296-133, and the Senate on October 11 by a vote of 77-23. It was signed into law by President Bush on October 16, 2002.

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Had we gone the invasion route, the U.S. could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different--and perhaps barren--outcome.

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Once you got to Iraq and took it over, took down Saddam Hussein’s government, then what are you going to put in its place? That’s a very volatile part of the world, and if you take down the central government of Iraq, you could very easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off: part of it, the Syrians would like to have to the west, part of it — eastern Iraq — the Iranians would like to claim, they fought over it for eight years. In the north you’ve got the Kurds, and if the Kurds spin loose and join with the Kurds in Turkey, then you threaten the territorial integrity of Turkey.
It’s a quagmire if you go that far and try to take over Iraq.
The other thing was casualties. Everyone was impressed with the fact we were able to do our job with as few casualties as we had. But for the 146 Americans killed in action, and for their families — it wasn’t a cheap war. And the question for the president, in terms of whether or not we went on to Baghdad, took additional casualties in an effort to get Saddam Hussein, was how many additional dead Americans is Saddam worth? Our judgment was, not very many, and I think we got it right.  

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Why was it that the only ones "bright" enough to know exactly what was going to happen (or whatever they should be called) didn't share their prophetic visions of biblical proportions with the Democrats or even with the rest of the world until well after the moron.org "hate George Bush" caravan had gone over the cliff of irresponsible politics?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

In places like Iraq there is a need for armed guards. There are crying towels in the lobby on the far right if you need some.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

In places like Iraq there is a need for armed guards. There are crying towels in the lobby on the far right if you need some.

Sanity:
It would seem that that would be the job of the U.S. military not a bunch of hired thugs.
You do not seem much enamored of the constitution...is there any particular reason you hate the United States of America...I notice you still have not gone down and enlisted.  You seem to be all in favor of the rape of a sovereign country so that some of your pals can make a few dollars.
thompson

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ORIGINAL: Sanity 

Iraq has a constitution now because of guys like that, and though you talk negatively towards them you've never really seemed to apreciate anyone who is helping out over there.
Actually this is not so.  Iraq had a constitution before we went there.  Women had the franchise which they do not enjoy now.  The U.S. has killed more Iraqis than sodamned insane ever did.  The only people they are helping out are themselves and their employers, not the Iraqi people.


And I went down and enlisted in 1979,  thompson, and I served my time.
What about you, why aren't you being a human shield right now for Osama.
Why on earth would I do that?  My position is that it is their country and they should deal with their problems and we should never have been there.

And the only ones "raping" Iraq were your bestest buds Saddam & Sons, and maybe the current real thugs, al-Qaeda in Iraq
As usual your mindset is us and them. 
The world really is somewhat larger than that.
For me to be against the thuggery of blackwater should not suggest to you or anyone that I thought sodamned insane was a sweetie.

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
Either address the points we were discussing or I will just assume you admit being wrong.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

When your hateful friends tell you
Since you know neither me nor my friends how can you presume to know that they are hateful.
 
 
that those bad, bad American soldiers have killed all these poor,defenseless Iraqis, the grossly over hyped and overestimated numbers
You know these numbers are wrong because you somehow have better sources than the rest of us.  Please share with us both your vast and half vast knowledge.
 
 
 that they're using to fill you head include people killed by al-Qaeda-In-Iraq as well as other Islamic extremists who our guys are trying to stop.
By extremists do you mean the citizens of Iraq who would like us to just leave?
 

 
But if, as you're claiming here, American soldiers are so evil that they're filling mass graves with Iraqi civillians
I do not know what you have been drinking or smoking so perhaps you might tell me just where I have said this?
 
 - why do you prefer them over Blackwater as you claimed a few posts ago?
Your problem is pretty clear...you seem to have a failure to comprehend what you read.  So until you can get that part cleared up I do not know how I can help you.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
Either address the points we were discussing or I will just assume you admit being wrong.

SimplyMichael, feel completely free to assume anything that you want to. 

You have my permission.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
 
But if, as you're claiming here, American soldiers are so evil that they're filling mass graves with Iraqi civillians - why do you prefer them over Blackwater as you claimed a few posts ago?

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

If you go by the neo-con definition of success,technically, they do  have
something to be proud of.What is the neo-con definition of success?

Depends on what day of the month it is.

Heard today,that they`ve gotten a billion taxpayer dollars(so far).And for what?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Well, your friends must be hateful to be telling you such atrocious lies
Actually the body count comes from the U.S. government.
 
 
about American soldiers who are serving so selflessly in Iraq.
They are hardly serving selflessly...even faux news reports on how the government is recalling reservist against their will and the number of suicides of those whom you claim are serving selflessly.
 
You seem to think that they're filling mass graves over there (since you insist that they've killed more people than Saddam & Sons did).
Isn't it interesting you bring up mass graves and then claim it is something I said.  You do seem to have a problem with reading comprehension.
 
 
 You don't just take the word of strangers concerning something like that, do you?
As stated above I am only repeating what the government has admitted.  If you are unhappy with the governments figures perhaps you might share with us some more significant source?
 
Regarding the numbers, you're the one who made the assertion that American soldiers are killing more Iraqis than Saddam did. And since you're wondering aloud what an Islamic Extremist is then perhaps you had ought to look it up.
Perhaps you might want to read what I have posted in a non chemically enhanced state.  You make up things that you think I have said and then demand I justify the things I have not said.
 
And if you're not saying that American soldiers are evil, then what else could you be suggesting when you said that  "The U.S. has killed more Iraqis than sodamned insane ever did."

You just want it both ways, don't you. You want to be able to say we're killing all these innocent Iraqis, but you back away from your statement as soon as you're confronted with the realities of what that accusation really means.
Lets try it one more time ...The U.S. has killed more Iraqis than sodamned insane ever did.  You want to twist that into something that I did not say.  Why you wish to do this is pretty obvious...you have a comprehension problem such that you only hear what you want to hear.  When the objective truth is not what you want to hear you resort to making up things much a small child might do when confronted with a similar situation.
If you would like to use these boards for discussion I would be the first to welcome you.  Instead you choose to use it as a pulpit to expound on that of which you have no understanding.
TYFSASAKM
thompson