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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/21/2007 8:24:09 PM   
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Pleeeease.... oh .. please noooo!! lol

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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/21/2007 8:36:13 PM   
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Does anyone know of a correlation between engaging in self-injury (burning, cutting, hair pulling) and a perv for "extreme" play.  Anyone had some exp with that?  Just curious...

**edit-- i forgot, damn chia i lol'd on that quip!  as goofy as it was! thanks**


Actually we have known quite a few cutters who were also hard bottoms that craved extreme SM... not sure if that is anything but anecdotal, on the other hand there may be a correlation for some people.

On the OP in general, we tend towards extemes in our M/s and SM. It seem to us that this site is not really comfortable with pushing limits or going to extremes. We don't have an interest in sharing our bdsm just for some one to wank to but we do like real discussions on technique and experiences in edge play. Unfortunately we don't seem to see much of that here.

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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/21/2007 9:25:14 PM   
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Didn't mean to hijack.  Sorry.  Wow, thanks everyone for their candid disclosures.  I am always thinking five steps out, so I appreciate the effort to let me in (and others).  I think that self-injury can be many things to people.  Some for coping because feelings are too much to bear, some because it feels good and creates a haze of comfy endorphins to float around it, and others I am sure.  It interest me because of the self to other dynamic.  I'll have to keep thinking about this one.
 
It is vital that we can all ask questions and make comments without people assuming judgment or negativity.  This is a wonderfully open place and my questions are only that, curiosities, because that is the way I think.  I am a therapist, scientist, investigator and much more.   What is most important is full adult consent to participate in any sexual activity.  Whether it is the blanket consent of a willing sub or slave or negotiated just before the fun.  Otherwise it is abuse.
 
RRafe, what the hell did you mean about a 'fat girl thread?'  Sounds like sour grapes to me...

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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/21/2007 9:32:48 PM   
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I love play rape with Master, but then again this is a man that I know literally protect my life. I don't think I could ever play like that with someone else.

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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/21/2007 9:59:51 PM   
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Didn't mean to hijack.  Sorry.  Wow, thanks everyone for their candid disclosures.  I am always thinking five steps out, so I appreciate the effort to let me in (and others).  I think that self-injury can be many things to people.  Some for coping because feelings are too much to bear, some because it feels good and creates a haze of comfy endorphins to float around it, and others I am sure.  It interest me because of the self to other dynamic.  I'll have to keep thinking about this one.
 
It is vital that we can all ask questions and make comments without people assuming judgment or negativity.  This is a wonderfully open place and my questions are only that, curiosities, because that is the way I think.  I am a therapist, scientist, investigator and much more.   What is most important is full adult consent to participate in any sexual activity.  Whether it is the blanket consent of a willing sub or slave or negotiated just before the fun.  Otherwise it is abuse.
 
RRafe, what the hell did you mean about a 'fat girl thread?'  Sounds like sour grapes to me...


You are new here, aren't you?

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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/22/2007 3:41:50 AM   
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love being anally fisted by my mistress  she gets me to open up for her with 3 different strapons and once she thinks im ready out goes the strapon and in goes her fist  gawd thats a amazing feeling once she slides into me  so far i can take almost up to her elbow  saw her yesterday and im still smiling  mal

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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/22/2007 4:37:22 AM   
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....so I open up " the extreme" thread, thinkin thinkin thinkin.......
 
and I end up giggling?? 
 
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Let's remember there is a TOS, and------------- let's be careful out there.

Sgt. Phil Esterhaus }   why does this make me think of Karens ( from will and grace ) alter-ego  " _________ Beaverhausen" ( dang cant remember the first name hmm)

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{There was this one time, at band camp}

{I endured 35 pages of a certain "No Limit" thread once}

{Would you care to try a "fat chick" thread to really test your mettle}

{RRafe, what the hell did you mean about a 'fat girl thread?'  Sounds like sour grapes to me...


You are new here, aren't you? }


...
but then again, I've been known to giggle at the strangest ( extreme) moments...

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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/22/2007 6:01:38 AM   
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If you go to any of the big BDSM gatherings, you'll generally see a fair amount of extreme play -- but with no body fluids exchanged. I've seen someone entirely suspended by hooks in the flesh, people dressed up as angels (with the feathers stuck in using piercing needles), intentional bruising and some really outstanding whip play.

I suppose there is a certain amount of voyeurism in this forum but it's always possible to see extreme play up close if one wants to expend a little time, money and effort. And remember: persons who prefer their own gender sexually have, in my experience, always played harder than heterosexuals.

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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/22/2007 6:02:39 AM   
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Annastaisia Beaverhousen, yes, love the alter ego.

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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/22/2007 6:10:15 AM   
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quote:

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If you go to any of the big BDSM gatherings, you'll generally see a fair amount of extreme play -- but with no body fluids exchanged. I've seen someone entirely suspended by hooks in the flesh, people dressed up as angels (with the feathers stuck in using piercing needles), intentional bruising and some really outstanding whip play.

i wonder if i could do that with facial whiskers for a formal event....

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I suppose there is a certain amount of voyeurism in this forum but it's always possible to see extreme play up close if one wants to expend a little time, money and effort. And remember: persons who prefer their own gender sexually have, in my experience, always played harder than heterosexuals.

i have noticed that it seemed like that...but i also have to wonder at the reason behind it...is it because they actually do or maybe because they feel less social restrictions because they are already part of a "sub culture" out of the mainstream because of their prefered partners....


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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/22/2007 6:11:02 AM   
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Annastaisia Beaverhousen, yes, love the alter ego.

chia* (the pet)

 
Yes!  Annastaisia    how could I have forgotten that  LOL
thanks Chia  : )


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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/22/2007 7:25:05 AM   
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For me, the extreme play i think about the most is the feeling of having my manhood totally stripped from me...it could be either physically or psychologically...i do look at is as something i'd allow physically if i felt a connection with the person doing it...

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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/22/2007 8:10:58 AM   
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Um.  Sometimes we do crossword puzzles together. 

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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/22/2007 12:01:04 PM   
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To me, those activities aren't sick. They're typical bdsm activities.

I can't really describe my more strange activities because it's difficult to do so outside of the context. And because anything involving illegalities can't really be discussed here so if any of mine involved those, I couldn't talk about them here.

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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/22/2007 12:40:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RaptureOfDesire

Not for the faint of heart!   

I was wondering if others who discuss here would like to share some of their EXTREME experiences......the hardcore, the sick, the violent! 

I do believe that we are sick, but we love it, so what does it matter?  

So, like I said before, I would love to hear stories from others about their experiences......to get new ideas and to just share the things that make us feel complete.  Also, please indicate whether this experience was done in real life or by way of phone or internet.  And, another idea I has was to maybe give advice about things that worked, didnt work.....or suggestions.  Any takers????

Thank you.

Brandi


You have to be kidding!!!!   Someone told you BDSM is an open minded, tolerant, non  judgemental group, didn't they ???  and you listened !!!!  I  asked a forum question about flowers once. . yes flowers!!  and no! I wasn't even doing extreme play with them, who knew sending flowers was a  crime ...which reminds me, there was a dozen roses once .....  mmmmmm  but that's a story for somewhere else .

I have 2 things I'd like to share.

1. Most things are  talked about as if done but never actually done. .welcome to keyboard BDSM
2. I'd love to share "experiences" with you but they would have to kill me ! 

The above experiences were gained in real life, phone and on line. 

Cheers.



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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/22/2007 1:32:56 PM   
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You have to be kidding!!!!   Someone told you BDSM is an open minded, tolerant, non  judgemental group, didn't they ???  and you listened !!!!  I  asked a forum question about flowers once. . yes flowers!!  and no! I wasn't even doing extreme play with them, who knew sending flowers was a  crime ...which reminds me, there was a dozen roses once .....  mmmmmm  but that's a story for somewhere else .

I have 2 things I'd like to share.

1. Most things are  talked about as if done but never actually done. .welcome to keyboard BDSM
2. I'd love to share "experiences" with you but they would have to kill me ! 

The above experiences were gained in real life, phone and on line. 

Cheers.




We've had this discussion in person, and in general I agree, considering this is about personal choice there are far too many who try to decide what the rules are, too keen to label things. The things you and I have discussed make what's been posted in this thread so far look like beginners play, yet we both know that it's not, everything is relative.
I for one try not to judge others nor pigeon hole anyone into a particular role, although this can be difficult at times.
 
Now this thread was started to discover what extremes people are into out there, nothing too extreme discussed so far. This may make some gasp with horror, but I spent some time researching castration and penectomy as both a form of submission and life choice.
For a couple of years I posted on a forum that acted as both a place for discussion and support for those who either fantasise about this or have actually gone ahead with it.
Amongst this group of individuals there were those who wished not only their genitalia be removed but eaten by the one who removed it, and cooked and eaten in front of them at that.
 
Extreme though this is, it is something I can understand because I took the time to do so. Those who wish to take such a drastic step have very specific reasons why they crave and need it, few are brave enough to follow through.
 
As has also been pointed out several times what counts as extreme play is relative. I for one would not indulge in age play (I was sexually abused as a child), nor would I participate in rape play, for two reasons, you cannot compare play rape to the real thing, it will always be within safe boundaries (or you'd not subject yourself to it), and it belittles the real life rape situations that women (and a few men) face out there every day.
When one is truly in fear for ones life and physical well being, that's rape, not being forced to accept penetration from ones Dominant, because by the very nature of the relationship the submissive has already consented, therefore it can never be rape.
 

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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/22/2007 2:49:55 PM   
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Let's remember there is a TOS, and------------- let's be careful out there.


That'd be my reply as well. Most, if not all, of the things I would consider "extreme" are either in the grey or the black with regard to the terms of service for this forum, depending on how literally the terms are taken. The rest are just flamebait, though not by my choice. I think it'd be great to be able to cover such things with the same seriousness that we (sometimes) address the more commonly accepted/acceptable ones.

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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/22/2007 4:05:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DanesWood

quote:

ORIGINAL: ErusDespicienta


You have to be kidding!!!!   Someone told you BDSM is an open minded, tolerant, non  judgemental group, didn't they ???  and you listened !!!! 



We've had this discussion in person, and in general I agree, considering this is about personal choice there are far too many who try to decide what the rules are, too keen to label things. The things you and I have discussed make what's been posted in this thread so far look like beginners play, yet we both know that it's not, everything is relative.
I for one try not to judge others nor pigeon hole anyone into a particular role, although this can be difficult at times.
 
Now this thread was started to discover what extremes people are into out there,  


Hmmmmm. .you're daring Me, aren't you?  lol

OK. Here's my deal with the BDSM world. .accept what is written here as it is written here. .No one says you have to do it, or like it. We are SUPPOSED to be individuals, free to make up our own minds about what is good for us !!  In the past I have done things that I didn't do again even though I had fantasised for months over them.  I have done things I loved, having never fantasised over them all because someone shared the idea with me.      I believe in ..Risk Aware Consentual Kink .. If I had to use Safe Sane Consentual, I'd get nothing done , it's the sane part that gets me every time lolol.     I'm not here to justify my actions nor will I.....I AM FULLY RISK AWARE.


Rapture I see you have lots of fetishes.  You have a lot in common with me. .I discovered water sports early on and quickly it led to medical play, especially catheters. Perhaps my biggest failing is that I get bored quickly but that trait makes me a constant explorer and limit pusher.  Eventually I began combining my basic fetishes.  "Peeing on" graduated to "peeing into" and peeing into her ass after anal gives me the satisfaction of marking plus I love the stinging sensation in my uretha caused by the constriction.  Inevitably " Peeing into" graduated to " Peeing into!!"  After spending months sceneing with a Trauma Nurse we finally went and did it.  Both of us urethally cathed and the caths linked, the pee flowed. it was glorious. (You might be able to adapt this into an age play, umbilical cord type of scene.)  Now I have the catheter bug. . that leads to sounds. .utheral stretching which of course lead inevitably . .lol ..to The Prince's Wand . Now to have a Prince's Wand you need a Prince Albert. .OMG more fetish, genital piercings!  Once I discovered what you could do with piercings everything changed. .Suddenly my play was all about ME . and I have been on a journey of self pleasure ever since.

Controlling bodily functions is a big one for me. .Using breathing tubes, caths, and plugs on a submissive and  having her rely totaly on me for relief is a high point for me .It's good for a w/e session and the things she will do to earn bladder relief or an extra breath are quite remarkable  ( try stopping the flow of pee within seconds of letting it flow.. that usually gets a wide eyed look but not a sharp intake of breath, well, not unless you allow it.)

As I scened more I started to  realise that as much as the organisation, the knowledge and the mechanics were a thrill for me, there was something missing and yes. .I needed to feel, the subs were having all the fun !

I'm looking forward now to exploring myself more as a Sado masochists and not as a Dom/Top, which brings me neatly to DanesWood who's post I quoted at the beginning. I've made a friend in real time who's into body modification, it's taken years to get this far, who knows what the next few have in store ;)
At some point everyone is a beginner in this and I understand that, I was once too.  My exploration will never end.

Scat play is not a hard limit for me. .I have a long term friend, play partner who has said she wants to try it. .Maybe one day soon my curiosity will be satisfied and who knows. perhaps it will become a limit, perhaps not.

I've set up a take down /gang bang scene. . Now I know what she got out of it ,  she told me but I still didn't get it.. each to their own remember. .What was in it for me? CONTROL and doing things that are intricate and edgy. .I had 22 rock hard guys I'd never met, one naked girl and no one to ask for help. .It went off smoothly and I learnt a thing or two about  crowd control !

I did a knife scene a few years ago that involved vaginal penetration . .It seemed like it was all going wrong. .I just got  the 4 inch blade in and told her to look between her legs. .this is the point where you DO NOT FLINCH. .I knew right way a reaction was coming, the reaction seemed negative, I was very familiar with sceneing with this woman and so I started a withdrawal. No sooner was the knife out than she fell apart emotionally, I did have a spotter and between the 2 of us, we brought her out of space and got her calm.. I really thought she had had a regression or something. .and I was glad to have a second woman around to help with the aftercare. .We didn't think it looked good.. she was mumbling and shaking. .it took a good 20 mins to get her calm. and finally when she spoke clearly  " What the F**k did you stop for, that was f*** awesum!"


You asked for the hardcore, the sick and the violent, well I'm not into violence, is there anything here that's hardcore or sick,  if there is I don't see it.








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RE: For Extreme Play Only! - 9/22/2007 4:49:52 PM   
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Hmmmmm. .you're daring Me, aren't you?  lol

 
Now would I do such a thing as dare you hmmm? Why yes, probably lmao.
I don't understand why people are shy of discussing their kinks and fetishes, I'm open about what works for me, to those that ask or I feel need to know, or even in a discussion like this. I would never inflict my needs onto a partner, for me it's about pleasing them, and hence I derive satisfaction from their pleasure. If that pleasure is derived in a masochistic way all the better, but it's not essential.
 
The fact anyone has something in common as a fetish that to many seems totally bizarre isn't a surprise to me, after all to some oral sex is perverted and wrong, again it's all about perspective.
 
What matters is finding a match for your needs, someone who will be with you each step of the way. Keep you safe, and if necessary protect you from yourself, easy to get caught up in the moment.
 
Now ErusDespicienta is a special man, intelligent, sexy, passionate, and kinky as hell, as crotch tighteningly exciting as a Ferrari, his experiences are vast, a lifetimes worth for most. Someone I'm proud to count as a friend in real life, not just virtual ink on a screen, like me he believes in doing not just talking.
 

 
 
 

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