Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: jesse is mad...


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: jesse is mad... Page: <<   < prev  1 [2] 3   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/21/2007 9:20:23 PM   
NefertariReborn


Posts: 381
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong

quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong

I'm starting to feel sorry for Obama.  His own kind are now upset because they don't feel he's "black enough". 
What exactly does "not black enough" mean?


i was in college when a black friend of mine said i wasn't "black enough" to be black because i spoke properly and conducted myself in a manner she wasn't used to. basically she said i was "too white" for my own race.  today, i still get the same comments from my neighbors - i'm looked upon as being uppity or white because of the way i raise my UMs.  it's sad.



Thank you.  I thought that is what it might have been referring to.  I just wanted to be sure.  I tell you- his own is going to make it very difficult for him to succeed in life if he is constantly being measured by his lack of ebonics :/
 
(and thank you for being you :)


Ebonics is the measure of being black?  When did this start?  How come no one informed the negroes???  Do the quadroons know because they're not black enough?  I'm calling Jesse for a march.


< Message edited by NefertariReborn -- 9/21/2007 9:22:20 PM >

(in reply to LotusSong)
Profile   Post #: 21
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 6:30:04 AM   
sambamanslilgirl


Posts: 10926
Joined: 2/5/2007
From: Chicago, IL
Status: offline
in my experience, if you talk proper without the use of cursing and/or slang/ebonics, then some in the black community see you as a "wannabe white" black and will ostracize you immediately.  on the flip side, if you can speak the latest jive/ebonics lingo, then you're considered to be one of them.

my oldest UM is experiencing this in her HS first hand - she's one of a handful of students who aren't black in a black majority school (trust me, there's only 5 of them). the first 2 weeks of school, she was labeled "white girl" because of her very fair skin and the way she speaks in class - proper and with manners. a male student was suspended from school because he wrote racial statements about my oldest on her desk. she gets it worse from the female population however she doesn't let it bother her most days ...yet i can tell it does.

my youngest UM is gradually experiencing the same not from her friends in the K-class but from their parents ..."oh your daughter has pretty skin ...she has such pretty hair ...." etc etc.  many equate (at this age) fair skin being the prettiest of them all especially since she's in the 10% that isn't black at her school.  plus they are amazed that for her age she's speaking proper english with an unlimited vocabulary.

< Message edited by sambamanslilgirl -- 9/22/2007 6:33:20 AM >


_____________________________

...2011 - year of the fabulous rock star life ...and i do it so well...


...announcing Mr. & Mrs. British Petrol ...yeah, marrying into oil is slick business...

(in reply to NefertariReborn)
Profile   Post #: 22
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 7:54:55 AM   
Owner59


Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

What do you think Rush Limbaugh is saying/thinking/meaning,when he calls Obama a "halfrican"? 

What a cute name for Rush to make up and spread.

Sounds a bit like racism to me.



In all seriousness, how many hours a day do you spend learning the latest drivel from the mouths of Rush, Coulter, and the rest?

http://zenguide.com/zenmedia/index.cfm?id=18



In all seriousness? No.But I`m complimented, that it seems that way.Thanks.

One does need to listen long,before it`s obvious how bigoted Rush is.

I do carpentry,and the radio`s always on.After listening to every song,eight times a day,I would dial to the AM side,to listen to the train-wreck radio that right-wingers did.Bob Grant was  very entertaining,especially right before he got fired for saying something really stupid,after Ron Brownwas killed in a plane crash.

I was listening to Rush`s show,when he 1st came on WABC,more than 20 years ago.I remember when he did ads for Snapple Soda(his earliest days).



When I surf the dial,I stop in to see what he`s up to.Keeping my "enemies closer",so to speak.I don`t focus or pay more attention on Rush,than that.BTW,when Clinton 1st won,and then the 2nd time,Rush was the most entertain fella,EVER.He was doing back flips,and having conniptions.The best radio I`ve heard.

For years now,Rush ,and the right wing media/leadership of every kind,coordinate their message,and form "talking points",which every right-wing broadcaster repeats,creating an echo chamber.

The "Wednesday Morning Meeting",as it`s called,is attended(in person or by vid-conference) by White House staff,Roger Ailes of Fox News,Newt Gingrich,republican congressional leaders,Rush,Ann Coulter,Robert Novak,etc.,etc.,etc.
Around a hundred of the right-wing media elite,planing,shaping,coordinating,and all getting on the same page.



The Daily show does a good job of showing this,by making very funny montages of the clips,with every person saying the same thing,word for word,over and over.It`s almost "Orwellian".

It all sounds like what they accuse the left of doing,(ie,the left-wing media conspiracy crap),onlt it`s exactly what the right-wingers are doing.

This "media coordination" has caused a great deal of damage.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/08/AR2006070800983.html

http://www.opednews.com/droubay_090504_warlords.htm

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/01/12_402.html



_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to Alumbrado)
Profile   Post #: 23
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 7:59:02 AM   
Owner59


Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

in my experience, if you talk proper without the use of cursing and/or slang/ebonics, then some in the black community see you as a "wannabe white" black and will ostracize you immediately.  on the flip side, if you can speak the latest jive/ebonics lingo, then you're considered to be one of them.

my oldest UM is experiencing this in her HS first hand - she's one of a handful of students who aren't black in a black majority school (trust me, there's only 5 of them). the first 2 weeks of school, she was labeled "white girl" because of her very fair skin and the way she speaks in class - proper and with manners. a male student was suspended from school because he wrote racial statements about my oldest on her desk. she gets it worse from the female population however she doesn't let it bother her most days ...yet i can tell it does.

my youngest UM is gradually experiencing the same not from her friends in the K-class but from their parents ..."oh your daughter has pretty skin ...she has such pretty hair ...." etc etc.  many equate (at this age) fair skin being the prettiest of them all especially since she's in the 10% that isn't black at her school.  plus they are amazed that for her age she's speaking proper english with an unlimited vocabulary.


I have a theory,and I can defend it,that Ebonics was a joke/stunt/prank,created to piss off the "Kwanzaa haters".lol

And it worked like a charm.Getting people upset,and talking about it.

I`m sure the pranksters got a huge laugh,.

_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to sambamanslilgirl)
Profile   Post #: 24
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 7:59:28 AM   
Alumbrado


Posts: 5560
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59


In all seriousness? No.But I`m complimented, that it seems that way.Thanks.

One does need to listen long,before it`s obvious how bigoted Rush is.

I do carpentry,and the radio`s always on.After listening to every song,eight times a day,I would dial to the AM side,to listen to the train-wreck radio that right-wingers did.Bob Grant was  very entertaining,especially right before he got fired for saying something really stupid,after Ron Brownwas killed in a plane crash.

I was listening to Rush`s show,when he 1st came on WABC,more than 20 years ago.I remember when he did ads for Snapple Soda(his earliest days).



When I surf the dial,I stop in to see what he`s up to.Keeping my "enemies closer",so to speak.I don`t focus or pay more attention on Rush,than that.BTW,when Clinton 1st won,and then the 2nd time,Rush was the most entertain fella,EVER.He was doing back flips,and having conniptions.The best radio I`ve heard.




I feel for ya... the music selection on most FM sucketh (Memphis being a bright spot), I tried listening to talk radio but couldn't stand any of it for more than a few minutes.

< Message edited by Alumbrado -- 9/22/2007 8:00:51 AM >

(in reply to Owner59)
Profile   Post #: 25
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 8:06:01 AM   
Owner59


Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

quote:

ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

What do you think Rush Limbaugh is saying/thinking/meaning,when he calls Obama a "halfrican"? 

What a cute name for Rush to make up and spread.

Sounds a bit like racism to me.



In all seriousness, how many hours a day do you spend learning the latest drivel from the mouths of Rush, Coulter, and the rest?

http://zenguide.com/zenmedia/index.cfm?id=18



In all seriousness? No.But I`m complimented, that it seems that way.Thanks.

One does need to listen long,before it`s obvious how bigoted Rush is.

I do carpentry,and the radio`s always on.After listening to every song,eight times a day,I would dial to the AM side,to listen to the train-wreck radio that right-wingers did.Bob Grant was  very entertaining,especially right before he got fired for saying something really stupid,after Ron Brownwas killed in a plane crash.

I was listening to Rush`s show,when he 1st came on WABC,more than 20 years ago.I remember when he did ads for Snapple Soda(his earliest days).



When I surf the dial,I stop in to see what he`s up to.Keeping my "enemies closer",so to speak.I don`t focus or pay more attention on Rush,than that.BTW,when Clinton 1st won,and then the 2nd time,Rush was the most entertain fella,EVER.He was doing back flips,and having conniptions.The best radio I`ve heard.

For years now,Rush ,and the right wing media/leadership of every kind,coordinate their message,and form "talking points",which every right-wing broadcaster repeats,creating an echo chamber.

The "Wednesday Morning Meeting",as it`s called,is attended(in person or by vid-conference) by White House staff,Roger Ailes of Fox News,Newt Gingrich,republican congressional leaders,Rush,Ann Coulter,Robert Novak,etc.,etc.,etc.
Around a hundred of the right-wing media elite,planing,shaping,coordinating,and all getting on the same page.



The Daily show does a good job of showing this,by making very funny montages of the clips,with every person saying the same thing,word for word,over and over.It`s almost "Orwellian".

It all sounds like what they accuse the left of doing,(ie,the left-wing media conspiracy crap),onlt it`s exactly what the right-wingers are doing.

This "media coordination" has caused a great deal of damage.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/08/AR2006070800983.html

http://www.opednews.com/droubay_090504_warlords.htm

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/01/12_402.html





I feel for ya... the music selection on most FM sucketh (Memphis being a bright spot), I tried listening to talk radio but couldn't stand any of it for more than a few minutes.


Try Air America

http://www.airamerica.com/

Lionel,a former Florida prosicuter,is one of the funniest men on the radio.Quick,sharp as a tack,and helps folks understand the law.
http://airamerica.com/lionel/

Left of center,for sure,but they don`t try to hide it,and they`re honest,cuz liberals don`t need to lie,to win  points.

_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to Alumbrado)
Profile   Post #: 26
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 8:42:32 AM   
popeye1250


Posts: 18104
Joined: 1/27/2006
From: New Hampshire
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong

I'm starting to feel sorry for Obama.  His own kind are now upset because they don't feel he's "black enough". 
What exactly does "not black enough" mean?


What? "Not Black enough?"
Some people see Abbadabba as "Not White enough."
I thought "race" wasn't supposed to matter anymore?

_____________________________

"But Your Honor, this is not a Jury of my Peers, these people are all decent, honest, law-abiding citizens!"

(in reply to LotusSong)
Profile   Post #: 27
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 8:45:37 AM   
UR2Badored


Posts: 506
Joined: 2/3/2007
Status: offline
Why is it that we never have ANY "happy" Jesse threads?  



< Message edited by UR2Badored -- 9/22/2007 9:03:21 AM >


_____________________________

A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way
Mark Twain

(in reply to Alumbrado)
Profile   Post #: 28
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 8:46:40 AM   
Owner59


Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong

I'm starting to feel sorry for Obama.  His own kind are now upset because they don't feel he's "black enough". 
What exactly does "not black enough" mean?


What? "Not Black enough?"
Some people see Abbadabba as "Not White enough."
I thought "race" wasn't supposed to matter anymore?


See?

Why should anyone have to deal with this petty bullshit?

I`m sure it gets old,fast.

_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to popeye1250)
Profile   Post #: 29
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 8:49:10 AM   
Alumbrado


Posts: 5560
Status: offline
quote:

...Lionel,a former Florida prosicuter


You say that like it's a good thing...

(in reply to popeye1250)
Profile   Post #: 30
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 9:02:11 AM   
subtee


Posts: 5133
Joined: 7/26/2007
Status: offline
quote:

One does need to listen long,before it`s obvious how bigoted Rush is.


I listen to Rush when on road trips. The attendant rage keeps me awake. ("mayga diddows, Rush!")

Seriously, I don't understand why these folks don't lose credibility when their seemingly inevitable hypocracy is brought to light. I'm speaking here of Rush's drug problems, similar to Larry Craig's alleged homosexuality/anti-gay legislative slant. How about Newtie's infidelity on the heels of his orchestration of the impeachment of Bill Clinton because of sexual dalliances?

Democrats are not imume from hypocracy, but it seems to me they are less likely to soapbox their morality in the first place. I'm just saying...

(in reply to NefertariReborn)
Profile   Post #: 31
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 9:03:23 AM   
Owner59


Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

quote:

...Lionel,a former Florida prosicuter


You say that like it's a good thing...


It`s certainly not a bad thing,IMO.
It helps to know that a host ,actually knows the law,and can explain it and have it make sense.

How many rants have you seen,where folk are clueless about hate crime laws,Larry Craig`s gig,OJ,wire tapping,Habeas Corpus,the Jena 6 thing,etc.

As a prosecutor,one knows the law,and the US Constitution.
It`s great to get accurate answers,and insights about the law.

Plus,he`s fuck`n funny.

< Message edited by Owner59 -- 9/22/2007 9:09:19 AM >


_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to Alumbrado)
Profile   Post #: 32
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 9:08:16 AM   
Owner59


Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: subtee

quote:

One does need to listen long,before it`s obvious how bigoted Rush is.


I listen to Rush when on road trips. The attendant rage keeps me awake. ("mayga diddows, Rush!")

Seriously, I don't understand why these folks don't lose credibility when their seemingly inevitable hypocracy is brought to light. I'm speaking here of Rush's drug problems, similar to Larry Craig's alleged homosexuality/anti-gay legislative slant. How about Newtie's infidelity on the heels of his orchestration of the impeachment of Bill Clinton because of sexual dalliances?

Democrats are not imume from hypocracy, but it seems to me they are less likely to soapbox their morality in the first place. I'm just saying...


Yup.But there is an audience that needs their bigoted,regressive,un-American values, validated.

They need their red meat,and Rush delivers.

I listen,for the same reason someone looks at a train-wreck.There`s a lot to see.

As for drug use,I heard Rush say the most ugly things about Jerry Garcia,when he died.Was I surprised that Rush was addicted to 'hillbilly heroin,and lost his hearing from it?Nope.Rush defines hypocrisy  and neo-conservatism,all at once.

< Message edited by Owner59 -- 9/22/2007 9:17:44 AM >

(in reply to subtee)
Profile   Post #: 33
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 10:33:42 AM   
FatDomDaddy


Posts: 3183
Joined: 1/31/2004
Status: offline
Hmmm..

Let me get this straight....

Obama is not black enough so vote for the white woman?

Sounds like democrat logic to me.

(in reply to Alumbrado)
Profile   Post #: 34
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 10:58:30 AM   
Alumbrado


Posts: 5560
Status: offline
quote:

I heard Rush say the most ugly things about Jerry Garcia



You say that like its a bad thing...

(in reply to FatDomDaddy)
Profile   Post #: 35
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 11:16:07 AM   
Sanity


Posts: 22039
Joined: 6/14/2006
From: Nampa, Idaho USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59
As for drug use,I heard Rush say the most ugly things about Jerry Garcia,when he died.Was I surprised that Rush was addicted to 'hillbilly heroin,and lost his hearing from it?Nope.Rush defines hypocrisy  and neo-conservatism,all at once.


You know, I can see how a guy can be a drug addict, and hate addiction itself, as well as all the trappings, all at the same time - without being a hypocrite, as you claim. Or an alcoholic. Or any number of other things...

_____________________________

Inside Every Liberal Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out

(in reply to Owner59)
Profile   Post #: 36
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 11:32:36 AM   
subtee


Posts: 5133
Joined: 7/26/2007
Status: offline
Yes, I agree, hate the addiction, but so wrong, IMO, to be hatin on people who are engaged in the same thing at the same time.

(in reply to Sanity)
Profile   Post #: 37
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 11:51:16 AM   
Sanity


Posts: 22039
Joined: 6/14/2006
From: Nampa, Idaho USA
Status: offline
You know I've smoked a lot of grass
O' Lord, I've popped a lot of pills
But I never touched nothin'
That my spirit could kill
You know, I've seen a lot of people walkin' 'round
With tombstones in their eyes
But the pusher don't care
Ah, if you live or if you die

God damn, The Pusher
God damn, I say The Pusher
I said God damn, God damn The Pusher man

You know the dealer, the dealer is a man
With the love grass in his hand
Oh but the pusher is a monster
Good God, he's not a natural man
The dealer for a nickel
Lord, will sell you lots of sweet dreams
Ah, but the pusher ruin your body
Lord, he'll leave your, he'll leave your mind to scream

God damn, The Pusher
God damn, God damn the Pusher
I said God damn, God, God damn The Pusher man

Well, now if I were the president of this land
You know, I'd declare total war on The Pusher man
I'd cut him if he stands, and I'd shoot him if he'd run
Yes I'd kill him with my Bible and my razor and my gun

God damn The Pusher
Gad damn The Pusher
I said God damn, God damn The Pusher man

(Steppenwolf)

_____________________________

Inside Every Liberal Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out

(in reply to subtee)
Profile   Post #: 38
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 12:08:34 PM   
subtee


Posts: 5133
Joined: 7/26/2007
Status: offline
With respect:

I hit the city and
I lost my band
I watched the needle
take another man
Gone, gone, the damage done.

I sing the song
because I love the man
I know that some
of you don't understand
Milk-blood
to keep from running out.

I've seen the needle
and the damage done
A little part of it in everyone
But every junkie's
like a settin' sun.


(Neil Young)

(in reply to Sanity)
Profile   Post #: 39
RE: jesse is mad... - 9/22/2007 12:11:47 PM   
UR2Badored


Posts: 506
Joined: 2/3/2007
Status: offline
A long, long time ago.........oops sorry.
(Don McLean)

< Message edited by UR2Badored -- 9/22/2007 12:12:51 PM >


_____________________________

A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way
Mark Twain

(in reply to subtee)
Profile   Post #: 40
Page:   <<   < prev  1 [2] 3   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: jesse is mad... Page: <<   < prev  1 [2] 3   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.125