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RE: The stupid Doms how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 1:27:23 PM   
Phoenix2raven


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Status: offline 		Great question and yes I'd do it but only in a ltr with lots of practice, understanding and absolute trust. 

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RE: The stupid Dogs how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 1:47:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Could I do it.... If I was in a long term relationship with a partner I know so well that I could almost read their thoughts and it was something she just had to have to feel fulfilled... Yes  

Do I want or need to ever go that far myself... No

If I where to ever have a partner who felt the need to go that far, I would agree with many here. I would have to do a lot of mental and practical preparation. I would want my skills to be in top form and I would have to be able to do it in a way that left no permanent physical or emotional damage. If I could not learn a way that I could achieve the outcome with this end result I would have to not go there. In my way of thinking if I love someone enough to take them there I want them back after it is over and I want them to still be whole.

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RE: The stupid Doms how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 2:04:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I haven't asked for that type of scene yet, but I have asked to take me further than what I want to go.  The thing is, I would only do it with someone I trust completely.  I actually have exchanged emails with Fifth Angel who wrote Your Pain, My Pleasure about a possible scene; but not to that extreme.  For me, I don't know I would want it from someone I loved so much as someone that was incredibly experienced in both BDSM, martial arts as well as a nurse or paramedic or something.  They tend to be able to watch someone's vital's and can stop it, but yet take right to that point from what I have seen.

Happy hunting...and be careful for what you wish for

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RE: The stupid Doms how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 2:28:50 PM   
BoiJen


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Status: offline 		FA is a GREAT guy btw. I got to meet him at an event in NC that he was presenting and playing at.

I see a lot of posts from D-type here about "I would if they really wanted to..."

I thought you guys were supposed to be in charge?

Not to change the subject.

I ask for it all the time and get told "nope I don't feel like it" which translates to..."when you least expect it"...it's about enduring and the risk...it wouldn't be what it is If it weren't for the risk that has been posted about. That same risk people don't want to take...it's "edge" for a reason I guess. Then again I do dumb shit like say "I dare ya to try and break my limits...it's not possible" and get the shit kicked out of me anyways.

hey I never said I was smart

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RE: The stupid Doms how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 2:44:40 PM   
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RE: The stupid Doms how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 2:48:56 PM   
Archer


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Status: offline 		Doing the scenes casualy tends to be out of my comfort zone. The connection gets made in a scene where you cross those boundries and I'm leary of making that connection unless I am prepared to back it up with all the rest of the connection.

It's tough to push past those things when you "Love" the person but not impossible.
The questions that always run through your head are will this pushing to the limits "breaking" them end with the result we hope for or will it poison things? The poisoning thing is not likly but even the remote possibility scares most people away from doing it.

The other thing is self doubt as to being :qualified to achieve the end desired and doing it in a "safe"" manner. Convincing yourself that you actually can do it is not easy for most people I know who are the people I would trust to attempt something like this. Humility tends to be a strong safety feature.





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RE: The stupid Doms how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 2:53:53 PM   
Petronius


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After initial communications I 'd approach that with her slowly, very very slowly over considerable time to see where the increasingly intense play would take us.

Sadly, too many people have some fantasy of really "hard play" with little or no knowledge of how hard "hard play" can be.

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RE: The stupid Doms how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 2:58:14 PM   
embersMaster


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Status: offline 		I enjoy being of service to my submissives.  Before going into any relationship, the four things I want to know first are:
1. Hard Limits
2. Soft Limits
3. Their goals for their submission
4. What is the most extreme sub fantasy they have

The answers to these questions tell me how far I will need to go to get to the core of what they want and what they are willing to do. 

For the edge, being broken, "fantasy rape," "kidnappings," being broken and the like, I would do it, but I agree with some here that that would be something worked up to.  I would never do this with a new submissive or with a submissive that is new to Me.  That being said, I am open to taking them that far, when I believe they are ready.  I want them to meet their goals for their submission......

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RE: The stupid Doms how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 3:42:54 PM   
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RE: The stupid Doms how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 3:52:16 PM   
ArgoGeorgia


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quote:

ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

What do I get out of the scene?



Um, I'm guessing the wonderful opportunity to provide a WHOLE BUNCH of aftercare?

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RE: The stupid Doms how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 4:03:29 PM   
celticlord2112


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ArgoGeorgia

quote:

ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

What do I get out of the scene?



Um, I'm guessing the wonderful opportunity to provide a WHOLE BUNCH of aftercare?


Perhaps....but isn't that a rather essential element of the OP's question?  Capable is one thing...willing is another.


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RE: The stupid Doms how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 4:09:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Depends on what baseline state they are in and what theywant physically vs mentally.

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RE: The stupid Dogs how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 4:17:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Boeijen

FA is a GREAT guy BTW. I got to meet him at an event in NC that he was presenting and playing at.

I see a lot of posts from D-type here about "I would if they really wanted to..."

I thought you guys were supposed to be in charge?

hey I never said I was smart


I cant speak for everyone but the statement "If they wanted to" would translate too.. "I am in charge but this is not something I desire. However I am in a Relationship and if my partner has a Need as her Master I want to fulfill it in my time..When I feel she is ready. The statement has nothing to do with being in charge or not.. I am the Master of corse I am in charge

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RE: The stupid Doms how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 4:55:41 PM   
Neala


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Status: offline 		Okay, I'm not a Dom but this question really spiked my interest so I will answer it from my point of view.

I could see my self asking for this. To be nearly broken and then be in the loving (yes, I would only do something like this with someone I trusted without question and loved) arms of my Master would be amazing. To feel him solid and to know he is there supporting me after all he has done to drive me to that point sounds wonderful. I find great beauty in this idea.

Just my thoughts as always.

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RE: The stupid Doms how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 4:56:26 PM   
LDRandAstarte


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

Well there's the problem there "Screw the roses" isn't for someone who wants to go this far. So making the comparison doesn't work at all.

As for the edge fuck. Hell yes as a top I fuckin love it when people ask me to do that. Unfortunately for me it tends to be from bottoms who's general partners won't do it or won't let them do it because they read stuff like "Screw the roses"



Yup.

Pretty much any experienced Top can inflict massive sensory overloads without doing a lot of physical damage. It's the ones who think you have to full force whack people with boat oars that you need to be wary of.


I don't think I would be worried so much about people swinging boat oars as those swinging 1/4 nylon canes!

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RE: The stupid Dom's how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 5:03:00 PM   
LATEXBABY64


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RE: The stupid Doms how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 5:06:40 PM   
Cyntilating


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Status: offline 		To anyone who answered " yes" to this post...or has experience doing this...
 
( real question..not being sarcastic fyi )
 
how do you know what you will "find" when you go that deep into someone?
emotionally, mentally...
they(sub/maso/bottom/etc) may ask for it, having not even thought about the same question..
 
I ask because.... > it took me years to feel that "soft cushy cloud floaty type "subspace" that most talked about.......the place I went (right off the bat )> was a very dark and primal, almost animalistic place...
thankfully I was with someone who could handle this and knew how to keep me ( and himself ) safe from physically hurting myself & would only let me stay a short time.....even then> I would come out shaking and feeling very vulnerable..sometimes afraid....feeling dark myself..
even tho' > there was something about it that was thrilling and euphoric in its own way...and compelled me to want deeper.....
 
and I don't think I was anywhere near " my limit or farthest edges" .....
so...my question comes from feeling all that...and wondering...
going deeper? what is there?

reminds me of that adage>  becareful what you ask for, you might just get it and then what will you do?
 
thanks for your thoughts, in advance
and I hope this isnt considered hijacking the thread...if so..apologies to OP.
 

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RE: The stupid Dom's how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 5:07:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

why would anyone want to mess with someones head space to the point of insanity. You have to be careful understand a person trust a is a big issue here. after all do not want any postal subbies running around with axes


Why?  Because I can!


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RE: The stupid Doms how far would you really go poll. - 9/12/2007 5:24:41 PM   
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No.  Make me cry, make me genuinely afraid, make me confused, make me pissed off, make me remember - sure. But I don't have confidence in my skills to land RIGHT on the margin and I'm not willing to go over it and literally have someone need to be hospitalized because I wanted to get to the margin.




This is my general opinion. I am way too inexperienced to even contemplate something like that.

(And "Screw the Roses, Give Me the Thorns" told me not to....so there you go )

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RE: The not so stupid Doms how far would you really go ... - 9/12/2007 5:51:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cyntilating
I ask because.... > it took me years to feel that "soft cushy cloud floaty type "subspace" that most talked about.......the place I went (right off the bat )> was a very dark and primal, almost animalistic place...
thankfully I was with someone who could handle this and knew how to keep me ( and himself ) safe from physically hurting myself & would only let me stay a short time.....even then> I would come out shaking and feeling very vulnerable..sometimes afraid....feeling dark myself..
even tho' > there was something about it that was thrilling and euphoric in its own way...and compelled me to want deeper.....
 
and I don't think I was anywhere near " my limit or farthest edges" .....
so...my question comes from feeling all that...and wondering...
going deeper? what is there?


i was discussing this topic with a female Dominant friend of mine just a little while ago and this came up...she described her scene dynamics with her girl as very primal and i was like...yes thats what i want....but on major major steroids...times a thousand...is the best way i can describe it...and i don't think that a couple of hours of after care would be satisfactory...not even sure if a couple of days would work...i would probably have to have a couple of weeks...and the scene i am imagining, though i have no actual concept, would last much longer than the average scene...

just my thoughts for now...


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