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ORIGINAL: Perplex

Scenario: You know of a politco who is actively trying to close up clubs & shops that cater to people in the lifestyle.  In addtion this person is trying to reinstate laws on sodomy.  Now you are at a private party and in one of the scenes you see this Politco bent over by a 400lb domme getting fucked in the ass with a beer-can strap-on, while giivng head to a raher burly biker named Randy (I dunno why he's named in this instance, it just seemed to fit) what do you do with the information? 

Do you let him go about his scene and life understanding you would not want your activities to reflect on your everyday life or do you rat him out as the hypocrit he clearly is, or....<feel free to post a third option here>

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ORIGINAL: xoxi

It may be a hypothetical question but it still shows that a lot of people are hypothetical shitheads.

And there's already been one 'been there done that' post.  God only knows how many more there would be in a 'would you blackmail your kinky ex in a custody battle' thread.

I am consistently surprised by how many people think it's okay to do immoral things to someone who they consider immoral or a bad person.  What then makes them any different?

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ORIGINAL: TheIronHorse

Keeping what you see at a private BDSM function to yourself is like Rule #2 in the unofficial handbook. 

No exceptions

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ORIGINAL: TheIronHorse

I dont participate in the political chat here as I have seen some of the hate and I wouldnt doubt for a minute, if someone got an angle on me here, they'd out me just to get their rocks off.

Keeping what you see at a private BDSM function to yourself is like Rule #2 in the unofficial handbook. 

No exceptions

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Someone could welcome me to the thread, indeed the category, but on the other hand they might flame me for what I have to say.

We The People have the right to do anything it takes to secure the rights that are bestowed by the Creator Of All Things. There should never have been any sodomy laws on the books, EVER in this country. What happens in private homes that hurts noone, and poses no danger is strictly out of their pervue by the Law of the land.

Moving forward, I personally know three people who have been successful at blackmail, and I know why it worked. They had a point. Morally I still disagree with it in these cases. Note that turning them in is not an option. One, I have enough holes in the head, and two, there would be not enough evidence to convict. In one instance the perpetrator is no longer living. So don't gimme that about knowing about a felony, it just isn't possible to do anything about  it.

On to this hypocrite MF. I consider him open season. He is trying to take away others' rights while still enjoying his. And he is in a position of power, given the circumstance, if you make this information public that is the moral high ground. Don't ask, don't threaten. Just do it.

If you do not ask and do not threaten it is not blackmail. This guy is paid with OUR fucking money, and he is just as bad as any politician who wants to take away our guns yet keep his. And they DO keep them. They want their rights while denying ours, this is worse than hypocrisy, this is hubris. Thinking that they are above the other people, when in reality they are supposed to be public servants.

Give me the information and I will take care of it and keep you out of the crossfire. Give them a really long trail to follow. I am probably several states away. To take the moral high ground I will not ask nor threaten, just do it. You are out of the picture.

Unless this person is in the federal government, his influence is very unlikely to touch me. And I won't be breaking the law. I totally agree that it would be wrong to expose anyone normally, but if this guy is doing what you say he is, he does not deserve that type of consideration.

My opinion is : FIRE AT WILL.

T

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ORIGINAL: xoxi

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ORIGINAL: e01n: Been there, done this

Why? I honestly want to know why you felt motivated to publicly out someone's sexual preferences to their office. And none of that 'concern for their well being' crap. What about doing this made you feel good?

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ORIGINAL: chellekitty

at what point does supporting your cause outweigh obeying the rules?

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 and aren't rules meant to be broken?

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ORIGINAL: e01n

And I never said I was a nice person, much less a good one. At the time in question, I would have taken being called "Machiavellian" as as compliment.

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Besides, no one's hands are ever truly clean.

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ORIGINAL: xoxi

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ORIGINAL: e01n

And I never said I was a nice person, much less a good one. At the time in question, I would have taken being called "Machiavellian" as as compliment.

Your explanation is more respectable than any justification could possibly be.  Thank you for at least admitting it was immoral rather than trying to shapeshift morality to encompass it.

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Besides, no one's hands are ever truly clean.

That may be true but not everyone submerges them in dirt at every opportunity.  Some of us even take care to wash them.

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ORIGINAL: xoxi
Your explanation is more respectable than any justification could possibly be. Thank you for at least admitting it was immoral rather than trying to shapeshift morality to encompass it. <snip>That may be true but not everyone submerges them in dirt at every opportunity. Some of us even take care to wash them.

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ORIGINAL: e01n

Been there, done this:

Pulled the political fucktart off to the side and said "You look very tired, sir.. perhaps I should ask one of your aides to give you a ride home?" Then contacted his office a few days later with a friendly "This is Eoin ***. The senator was very tired at a party recently thrown by mutual friends and I just wanted to make sure he got home safely... He did? Great! Thank you!"

Chances are, the rumor is already moving through the office and the question becomes "what sort of party was this?" A smart senator will stop and back off, while letting it look like the bill died in committee or due to filibuster... A dumb one will be crucified in the press by his denials and deceit.

I'm still the nice, caring person who was concerned for someone's personal safety...

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ORIGINAL: xoxi
I'm not flaming you. I'm disagreeing with you.

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ORIGINAL: LdyScarletDomina

 
I've always believed (and I'm sure this belief will not be popular) that once you enter a public arena like politics or entertainment (Hollywood) that you have made your life the public domain by choice.  IF you are sabotaging someones right to live the way they wish (purposely closing down fetish clubs because they're anti-christian, or gay or offend you in some way) at the same time you are taking advantage of that lifestyle, you publicly gave me the right to speak out about that hypocricy when you chose to become a public political figure.  The people have a right to know what their vote is supporting.  

Maybe I gave the wrong impression when I said "blackmail".   I would definately go up to that person and say "Look, you can't ruin a lifestyle and use it at the same time. What do you think your constituants would do if I gave these photos to the press?" That gives that person a chance to look at what they are doing and choose ONE path.  Now, in fairness if that Senator, politico, whatever stopped his fetish involvment and continued to try to shut the lifestyle down, at least he would have chosen a path.  In all honesty I probably would do nothing with the photos other than use them to prove my point. 

However, I MOST definately would go and have a long chat with the host to be sure that they didn't intentionally invite someone who obviously dislikes the lifestyle and what it stands for, and dislikes himself so much that he has to try to shut it down. 

I apologize that I wasn't clearer, I  keep trying to get online when no one is around to see that I'm not in bed (I'm supposed to be on bed rest LOL) 

Lady Scarlet