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MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexican President Felipe Calderon accused the United States on Sunday of stepping up persecution and abuse of undocumented Mexican workers with a crackdown on illegal immigrants.

Mexico was deeply disappointed at the U.S. Congress' failure to pass a comprehensive overhaul of immigration laws in June despite heavy lobbying by the Bush administration. It is also upset at the United States for building a security fence on parts of the border to keep illegal immigrants out.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070902/pl_nm/mexico_usa_dc

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Many in Mexico considers California, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada as part of Mexico that was taken illegally by Americans over 160 years go.

And that is part of the Aztlan movement. The members of this movement believe they can "reclaim" their land by pushing illegal immigrants into that region in such high numbers that Latinos can win political office and eventually reunite the land with Mexico.

And La Raza (which translates to "the race") is lobbying congress to make all illegal aliens citizens.

What do you think would happen if a group of white people created an organization called "the race." I think many would have a serious problem with that. But no one seems to care when Latinos do it.

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Man, I can't WAIT till we get rid of Bush!

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Man, I can't WAIT till we get rid of Bush!

And I suppose Hillary, Obama, or Edwards will be better?

Hillary supports the Dream Act.

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MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexican President Felipe Calderon accused the United States on Sunday of stepping up persecution and abuse of undocumented Mexican workers with a crackdown on illegal immigrants.

Mexico was deeply disappointed at the U.S. Congress' failure to pass a comprehensive overhaul of immigration laws in June despite heavy lobbying by the Bush administration. It is also upset at the United States for building a security fence on parts of the border to keep illegal immigrants out.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070902/pl_nm/mexico_usa_dc

We GIVE them their rights here in the U.S.  The same rights as any other criminal that brakes the laws of the U.S.
 
Why is it that any other nationality, that wants to immigrate here, doesn't seem to have a problem with our laws?
 
And this jerk says "Mexico doesn't end at it's borders" ????  Does any other country have this kindof problem?

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Many in Mexico considers California, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada as part of Mexico that was taken illegally by Americans over 160 years go.

And that is part of the Aztlan movement. The members of this movement believe they can "reclaim" their land by pushing illegal immigrants into that region in such high numbers that Latinos can win political office and eventually reunite the land with Mexico.

And La Raza (which translates to "the race") is lobbying congress to make all illegal aliens citizens.

What do you think would happen if a group of white people created an organization called "the race." I think many would have a serious problem with that. But no one seems to care when Latinos do it.

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Many in Mexico considers California, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada as part of Mexico that was taken illegally by Americans over 160 years go.

And that is part of the Aztlan movement. The members of this movement believe they can "reclaim" their land by pushing illegal immigrants into that region in such high numbers that Latinos can win political office and eventually reunite the land with Mexico.

And La Raza (which translates to "the race") is lobbying congress to make all illegal aliens citizens.

What do you think would happen if a group of white people created an organization called "the race." I think many would have a serious problem with that. But no one seems to care when Latinos do it.

cyberdude:
Perhaps if Mexico had taken half of the U.S. 160 years ago and did to the U.S. what the U.S. has done to Mexico, then a group called La Raza Blanca might have quite a following in this country.
thompson

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Many in Mexico considers California, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada as part of Mexico that was taken illegally by Americans over 160 years go.

And that is part of the Aztlan movement. The members of this movement believe they can "reclaim" their land by pushing illegal immigrants into that region in such high numbers that Latinos can win political office and eventually reunite the land with Mexico.

And La Raza (which translates to "the race") is lobbying congress to make all illegal aliens citizens.

What do you think would happen if a group of white people created an organization called "the race." I think many would have a serious problem with that. But no one seems to care when Latinos do it.

cyberdude:
Perhaps if Mexico had taken half of the U.S. 160 years ago and did to the U.S. what the U.S. has done to Mexico, then a group called La Raza Blanca might have quite a following in this country.
thompson

Thompson,
There was a war. We won, they lost, we both signed a peace treaty. This was 160 years ago. The treaty is accepted law. The southwest is not Mexico anymore and it never will be.

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With that philosophy in mind.... maybe we should give the eastern seaboard back to the Brits. Give Louisiana back to the French. And Florida back to Spain.
As for giving the original thirteen colonies back to the Brits.  That was a war for independence and not one of aggression and aggrandizement.  As for giving Louisiana back to the French it would be make more sense to give it back to Spain since it belonged to Spain and not France. 
Perhaps you should read a bit more about just how the U.S. acquired Florida.
Or better yet, give the whole country back to the Indians.
Since that is whom we stole it from in the first place some sort of accommodation might be a meaningful way of righting old wrongs.

This is a flawed philosophy. Remember, the Mexicans were not the first on their land either
Mexico got Mexico from Spain in a war for independence and not one of aggression and aggrandizement.
That the U.S. would discorporate is not likely but without an understanding of how this country was formed it is difficult to understand the position of those whom you castigate for their position in this matter.

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If you look around the world...most people are not living on their ancestor's land. Over the course of history many groups of people have migrated or have been displaced for various reasons. This has happened in all parts of the world. War has changed borders.

Look at Europe. Look at how many times that map has been redrawn. Look at Africa. That map changes every day with all their civil wars.