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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/26/2007 9:29:20 PM

LuckyAlbatross

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One of the funny things about this topic is that I've ALWAYS used third person speech- usually to be funny, but somehow it just became a part of my speech patterns very early. It wasn't until I got into the scene that I really noticed it and people began to make assumptions about it. Third speech is certainly NOT always used as a sign of humility or "lack of self" as so many apply it.

Plus, most vanilla adults just can't handle ANY weirdness so when I'd pop out in third speech just for a sentence or something, they'd just find me very weird. I mean, there's a lot of weird stuff about me anyway, but in a work environment it can be very obvious. So I've toned it down majorly since then.

And to Mercnbeth- I can honestly and sincerely state that I am very grateful for Beth's presence as she is one of the few who use third person speech in a very fluid and unassuming way. She proves that it can be done and NOT be annoying or used in place of a big neon sign saying "LOOK HOW COOL AND SUBMISSIVE I'M BEING!!!"

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/27/2007 2:41:17 AM

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In my last relationship, a speech restriction that I found challenging, but enjoyed, was that there were certain words which my master identified as being only approprate for use by free persons. These were, mostly, proper scientific type words or polite euphimisms for bodily functions, body parts, or various sex acts. I was not allowed to ask to use 'the bathroom', or 'the little girls room', unless we were in the company of vanillas, of course. I was required to use more coarse language, like, 'May i go piss?' I found that one, to be honest, more difficult than 'may I suck your cock?' I was not allowed to ask if I could masterbate, I was to ask, 'May I please fuck myself' I had a couple of sistersubs who fond this damn near impossible. We tend to be sweet, polite ladies, us subs, and having to use coarser language can be a rather humilating experience.
I was not allowed to call him Master, as he did not prefer it. I called him 'My Lord'. in the begining of our relationship, I recieved discipline for shortening that to 'Lord'. When we were out in public, I called him 'Sir'. but I was allowed to use his given name, and did so, both when surrounded by vanillas we knew (family, work, whatever), or when speaking to him out of scene, just discussing our everyday lives. Although I was his slave all the time, I could not have brought myself to use his given name when in sub space. That just wouldn't work for me.
He certainly did not require 3rd person speech, in fact, he did not care for it. But, again, when I am subbed out, sometimes it just works better for me. I can manage to find my voice and speak, at least a bit, if I don't have to use a first person pronoun, when otherwise, I would just not be able to talk. I know that sounds odd. He did not care for formal protocol type things. He knew I would have loved more such rules, but it was not his prefrence.
I hate the word 'shut-up'. My children are adults and I still do not allow them to use it in my prescence. It is just about my least favorite word in the English language. I find it so utterly disrespectful to the person it is used on. Which is, no doubt, why, when someone who owns me tells me to shutup, it sends a charge through me and gets me quiet, and subby, right away. LOL.

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/27/2007 4:06:14 AM

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I am with LA on this one, sarcasm and humor are a mainstay around here.

We joke a lot so restricting how i talk would cut into one of the things we enjoy most.

Like her i grew up in a family where requesting something often resulted in a serious no or a grinning "you're nuts" followed by the person doing it.

I always call Scooter Master but i've also been known to answer "get me a coke please" with "it'll cost you" which he knows is me teasing and conning him into an extra kiss. Nothing taken as being disrespectful, just a way of loving. I do not do that if he is busy or anything though.

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/27/2007 7:39:32 AM

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We're a blended family so calling him high lord pooh bah won't float around here. Basically, he enjoys terms of endearment except dear. He find the phrase yes dear to be demeaning. The only other thing he's objected to is calling him a louse after he amused himself by hitting me with various wooden spoons, he's fine with being called a rat but not a louse. I still don't get the difference but okay.

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/27/2007 7:48:46 AM

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Quick reply:

I call him by his first name, his given name not the shortended nickname everyone else gets to call him. Tone and demeanor matter very much to him. I am not allowed to say "whatever" to him. I can't think of any speech restrictions beyond that.

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/27/2007 7:59:12 AM

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I've been thinking about it and I really don't think I have any. I call him by his given name along with Sir and Master, depending on the moment. When I'm annoyed I still call him naughty things ("fuckin' twat monkey" comes to mind) under my breath while I go do his bidding and he laughs at me. I still call him by ridiculous terms of affection when I'm feeling snuggly, like "Honey Bunches of Oats".

About the only thing that's changed is the breadth of what we call each other and are to each other.

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/27/2007 8:22:39 AM

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Sir hates it when I call him Sir...its a hold over from the Military and anytime anyone calls him Sir, he imediatly says "Damn it I work for a living".....some of you might get that..anyway, I use Sir on here just cause it makes more sense.....

He also hates Master...

I call him Boss...ever watched "cool hand luke"? Thats where we got the idea....its hilarious...lots of people think Im just trying to be disrespectful, but other peoples shocked opinion is part of what he likes about it.....

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/27/2007 8:28:09 AM

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*Grins* I might start calling Valyraen that and see how he reacts.

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/27/2007 9:20:44 AM

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I realised this morning that there is one other person I call Sir, it's not often since like Rob he prefers his first name on most occasions but it is Sir Scott.

Just don't tell him I forgot about him *s*

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/27/2007 9:38:11 AM

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hehehe daddy is my best source if amusement sometimes, for myself, and I know he;s joked when we live together and he wishes to sleep he will have to gag me to keep me from attempting to get his attention for every lil thought that pops into my head.

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I have no protocol regarding speech for my pet. I sometimes have to silence her with a simple " Shut up! " because it seems that New Yorkers like to talk...a lot. Depending on her mood, this will hold her from 10 minutes to an hour. If I am reading I might have to threaten her with a gag in order to get her to find something other than me to busy herself with. For the most part I enjoy listening to her, caustic accent and all.

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/27/2007 10:07:42 AM

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None....nada....the only thing i guess that could be considered a speech restriction is Master said i can talk to Him about anything as long as i do it respectfully.

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/27/2007 10:24:15 AM

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Daddy does not place many strict speech restrictions upon me, at least not in my view, but that could be because i'm used to them and rarely think about them anymore. like others have mentioned, i am not permitted to give a negative response to a command. i also cannot question a command unless it is to seek clarification on carrying it out. i am not permitted to curse, although i am permitted to use explicit sexual terms in the proper context (i.e. using the "f" word when talking about the act, "cock" for penis, etc.). i am never permitted to raise my voice, and any argument on my part is a huge no-no. the last one is the only restriction i've had difficulty with, primarily for 2 reasons: i love a good intelligent debate, and 2, his definition of argument is very broad and took some getting used to. for instance, if he were to say, "i like white bread," and i say, "i prefer wheat," this would be an argument because it is the expression of an un-asked for contrary viewpoint. after 7 years i don't slip up on that one as much now, but it does still happen on occasion and he checks me firmly when it does.

other than that, let's see...i am not permitted to refer to him by his first name, i may call him Daddy, Dad, Master, Sir...while being playful i may call him something like "Papichulo" or "Pops"...but never, ever his first name, or any derivative of such. in person i am refer to all Males older than myself as Sir, whether it's a Dom or vanilla, friend or stranger. all Dominants he has me serve i am to refer to as Master, followed by their first name, i.e. "Master Bob."

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/28/2007 5:56:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
Oh boy - I really hope nobody got offended! Sorry for the misunderstanding. It just goes to show it is impossible to type inflection to indicate humor. It was a concept that came to mind when someone used the ability to say "no" to distinguish slave v. submissive. Expanding on the concept that a slave should never say 'no' I thought the point better enforced by eliminating the two letters appearing together. Although now that the idea is out there...

I don't know about anyone else, but I was not offended in the least. When I first read it I thought it sounded rather ridiculous, but I forced myself to look at it with an open mind and see if it was possible to even attempt something like that. It helped me work on something that I am interested in improving in myself, so it had a positive impact for me.

On a side note, when I have met people off the board my perspective of them tends to shift a little and I am able to appreciate their humor and wit. Pixels on a screen make it difficult to percieve that in people without having the benefit of knowing them face to face.

Thank you for the laugh *g*

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/28/2007 8:10:43 PM

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I call him Boss...

I call most people "boss" if I can't think of their name fast enough, or in place of "dude," "man," or "bro." Of course, I stole it from Penn Jillette, who took it from Cool Hand Luke...

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/28/2007 9:02:45 PM

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None....nada....the only thing i guess that could be considered a speech restriction is Master said i can talk to Him about anything as long as i do it respectfully.

That's pretty much how I feel about it. As long as I hear respect in his voice he can talk to me about anything.

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/28/2007 9:10:34 PM

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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

What, if any, speech restrictions do you have in your relationships? When they were first imposed how did you incorporate them into your life?

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/28/2007 9:10:54 PM

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Greetings kyra,
wow, great question.
At one point there was a time when my former Masters imposed the third person speech restriction on me. It got to the point where even at my job i was talking third person and my co workers would look at me oddly. That is no longer the case
My current Master (love him dearly) has a more practical sense of speech restriction...
His philosophy is a woman should be a lady at the table and a whore in the bedroom for his pleasure...
which means.
I am not allowed to say "No, Yeah, Umm, or OK"
I am not allowed to answer with short cut off answers-How are you doing "Fine"
I am not allowed to NOT give my opinion-He hates "Whatever you want to do"
When he asks me a question he expects my opinion and an answer, not Whatever
He wishes me to be respectful. No cursing No derogatory comments, No racial slurs
He also wants me to be upbeat, positve and glowing. Not to put myself down or anyone else.
If i can't say anything nice about something, dont even bother saying it.
If i can't abide by these rules he just wont have me speak at all. There have been many times a girl was silenced. Its a pleasure when she finally does get to speak again.

Take care,
Melanie

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/28/2007 9:48:04 PM

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quote:

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No dogma being expressed except our personal one. We've been told our use of third party annoys many. Sorry - but it doesn't annoy us, and ultimately that's the only people we strive to keep happy, content, and long lasted. To that end it serves.

greatly said

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RE: Speech Restrictions - 8/28/2007 11:23:07 PM

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i hope i don't offend anyone with this...but i often get mental images of "professional wrestling" when i see or hear someone speaking in the third person...the whole "the rock wants you to...(i don't know....bend over and kiss your ass good bye?)" thing...and it has absolutely no appeal to me..
i have no owner, superior, Master, whatever, at this time, so the only speech restrictions i have are self imposed....i don't raise my voice (cause i don't like being yelled at myself) and i use Sir or Ma'am until you tell me not to....
not sure if this is so much a speech restriction or a cognative behavior...if i notice that i am having to repeat myself a lot, i will slow down and think about each sentence i am saying before i say it...it may take more initial time...but saves time in the long run...

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