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Karl Rove`s dad, a gay lifestyler? - 8/23/2007 9:38:06 PM   
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http://www.bmezine.com/news/guest/20070818.html

http://lippard.blogspot.com/2007/08/karl-roves-adoptive-father-and-genital.html

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/09/05/new-book-reveals-roves-f_n_28738.html

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So?

I mean I am no fan of Karl Rove but he wasnt running for office. He never made any public promises of anything. And I dont think has ever lied about this....

It's not any different than Cheney's daughter being a lesbian. I really fail to understand why straight people are bashed when they have homosexual family members. I have members in my family whose lifestyle I dont agree with, and I am sure many dont agree with mine. But that doesn't change anything really. We are still and always will be family.

I seriously dont think most Republicans gives a rats ass about homosexuality. That's something only the far-right is against. Look at all the Republicans who are supporting Rudy Guiliani. His been divorced how many times? And he's been caught cross-dressing? Whose making a big deal out of this? Who's really the ones being intolerant? Democrats.

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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/23/2007 10:22:26 PM   
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But what is up with attacking him by outing his dead father?  Is this really the level the 08 election is going to be fought on?

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RE: Karl Rove`s dad, a gay lifestyler? - 8/23/2007 10:22:37 PM   
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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/23/2007 10:29:18 PM   
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/09/05/new-book-reveals-roves-f_n_28738.html

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I mean I am no fan of Karl Rove but he wasnt running for office. He never made any public promises of anything. And I dont think has ever lied about this....

It's not any different than Cheney's daughter being a lesbian. I really fail to understand why straight people are bashed when they have homosexual family members. I have members in my family whose lifestyle I dont agree with, and I am sure many dont agree with mine. But that doesn't change anything really. We are still and always will be family.

I seriously dont think most Republicans gives a rats ass about homosexuality. That's something only the far-right is against. Look at all the Republicans who are supporting Rudy Guiliani. His been divorced how many times? And he's been caught cross-dressing? Whose making a big deal out of this? Who's really the ones being intolerant? Democrats.


Considering they ran on "saving" the institution of marriage, by demonizing homosexuals in 2004,I would call republicans hate mongerers.It was Rove`s strategy,to pit Christians against gays and those that supported them(democrats/liberals).

Remember the "Federal Marriage Amendment"?Was there any dems supporting that?I remember the republicans were all over that one.It was half of the republican strategy


http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/usconstitution/a/marriage.htm


http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2004-04-12-matt-daniels_x.htm

This bull shit is nothing more than bigotry,hidden behind the guise of protecting us from sin.Trying to pretend that republicans are going to save American marriages,what crap.

"Who's really the ones being intolerant?"

Is it being intolerant,to point out  hypocrisy and hate mongering,on Rove`s part?



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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/23/2007 10:56:58 PM   
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Great immitation of "Big Eddy Schultz", but this is online text Owner59, we can easily check such assertions.  You just look silly when you make them.

Earlier than that President Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage act, I guess he is one of those damn Republicans also.

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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/23/2007 10:58:59 PM   
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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/23/2007 11:00:33 PM   
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Great immitation of "Big Eddy Schultz", but this is online text Owner59, we can easily check such assertions.  You just look silly when you make them.

Earlier than that President Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage act, I guess he is one of those damn Republicans also.

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and how many dems apposed it?

how many republicans supported it?And how many republicans ran against it?

nuff said......

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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/23/2007 11:01:48 PM   
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How exactly do unsupported allegations about Rove's dead adopted dad = hypocrisy and hate mongering on the part of Rove?


I can only educate you,I can`t do your thinking for you....

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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/23/2007 11:15:05 PM   
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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/23/2007 11:55:19 PM   
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How can you forget that the "Dont ask, dont tell" policy was put in place by a Democrat...


True.It was a compromise with the "throw them out,no matter what`ers".And of course,the jerk offs(republicans/christians/jarheads) took full advantage of every loop hole to get rid of gays serving in the armed forces,under that law,.. anyway.It was a better situation than the  previous one,but "don`t ask/don`t tell", still didn`t stop hateful "do-gooders" from targeting gays and harming them.And in that same shameful process,harming America`s security.

http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=2&aid=123896

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/14/attack/main529418.shtml




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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/24/2007 12:05:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		I thought about this a bit and realised, this could be Karl's greatest move yet.  It reeks of his handiwork.  Imagine if he planted that story himself.  Remember it has absolutly zero evidence, just an accusation.  And the marks take the bait and run with it.  All over the net and Air America.   Push it to the mainstream, then Rove releases evidence it's crap and rides off into the sunset.  And the public remembers that he had people pushing lies about his familly.  He has pulled that same ploy several times and the left keeps taking the bait like Elmer Fudd in a cartoon. 

Don't know if this is true or not, just a musing.....

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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/24/2007 12:19:04 AM   
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I thought about this a bit and realised, this could be Karl's greatest move yet.  It reeks of his handiwork.  Imagine if he planted that story himself.  Remember it has absolutly zero evidence, just an accusation.  And the marks take the bait and run with it.  All over the net and Air America.   Push it to the mainstream, then Rove releases evidence it's crap and rides off into the sunset.  And the public remembers that he had people pushing lies about his familly.  He has pulled that same ploy several times and the left keeps taking the bait like Elmer Fudd in a cartoon. 

Don't know if this is true or not, just a musing.....


I heard an interview,today, with the guy who did all his piercings.

http://www.airamerica.com/maddow/

He explained how Karl kept his dad`s death a secrete from his dad`s gay friends,didn`t allow them to be at the funeral or wake,and kept the grave site a secrete also.All in an effort to hide this about his dad.Who ,BTW,was "out" and happily gay and proud.

He was also featured in some major piercing mags,w/ his dick and balls proudly displayed.

Maybe luckydog could do more than click a google link a few times.He might learn something,.....maybe



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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/24/2007 4:28:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		the extreme right needs to get over it. the flaming in your face gays need to back off.

what goes on in the bedroom is private.

live and let live.

i sure hope we as a nation are done with these non issues- that have nothing to do with putting food on the table- dont disrupt the 08 erection!  [erection]

really this devissiveness serves so as to pick our pockets. distract- and con. so here we are again.

sorry if this sounds rude.  x% of the population will always be abc/xyz.

this humidity has me cranky.  the far right is so confused they think corporate interests are their own.

now the new bankrupsty law is showing its effect.... so criminalize everything.  we will build more jails....

[the hatred is putrid!]

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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/24/2007 5:13:00 AM   
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It's not any different than Cheney's daughter being a lesbian. I really fail to understand why straight people are bashed when they have homosexual family members.


It's not that they have homosexual family members.

It's that they publicly advocate denying homosexuals equal protection of the Law, WHILE HAVING homosexual family members.



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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/24/2007 5:14:26 AM   
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How exactly do unsupported allegations about Rove's dead adopted dad = hypocrisy and hate mongering on the part of Rove?


Live by the Swiftboating, die by the Swiftboating.

If Rove can do it to McCain during an election, why should ANYONE defend Rove when it happens to him?

If Rove had any honor and integrity, this wouldn't be an issue at all.



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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/24/2007 5:59:12 AM   
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How can you forget that the "Dont ask, dont tell" policy was put in place by a Democrat...


True.It was a compromise with the "throw them out,no matter what`ers".And of course,the jerk offs(republicans/christians/jarheads) took full advantage of every loop hole to get rid of gays serving in the armed forces,under that law,.. anyway.It was a better situation than the  previous one,but "don`t ask/don`t tell", still didn`t stop hateful "do-gooders" from targeting gays and harming them.And in that same shameful process,harming America`s security.




So when the right wingers had a uber-Republican Commander in Chief, they couldn't get rid of gays, but when the Democrats had a liberal Commander in Chief, and a majority in Congress, they couldn't stop the right wingers?


Logic isn't your first language, is it?

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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/24/2007 6:45:20 AM   
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It's not any different than Cheney's daughter being a lesbian. I really fail to understand why straight people are bashed when they have homosexual family members.


It's not that they have homosexual family members.

It's that they publicly advocate denying homosexuals equal protection of the Law, WHILE HAVING homosexual family members.


So if I happened to have a family member who is gay, I'm not permitted to be against homosexuality? I have to embrace that lifestyle in order to not be branded a hypocrite?

That makes no sense.

And what has Bush specifically said that can be considered "anti-gay?" He may have said he supports a male-female only marriage. No GOP candidate has advocated rounding up the gays and putting them to the slaughter. Maybe some radical christian groups have proposed that but no Republican has ever made that kind of remark.
And I know gays that are AGAINST gay marriage. It's not uniform. And my opinion on the whole thing is that it is a state right. Marriage is not a right guranteed nor denied in the constitution. Marriage is governed by the state government. If you get divorced, you go to state court. It is not federal jurisdiction. If the state wants to allow gays to wed or ban gays to wed, it is their decision to make.

And gay marriage and such is not really an issue this election cycle. So if you want to beat a dead horse....be my guest.

I have also noticed a bit of a war of words between Rove and the Hillary campaign. I certainly think it is possible Hillary leaked this information about Rove. She's the type of bitch that would do that. If her and that corrupt "husband" of hers are capable of murder, then they are certainly capable of dirty politics. Rove better be careful with the Clintons... He's liable to end up dead in a park.

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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/24/2007 6:57:00 AM   
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It's not any different than Cheney's daughter being a lesbian. I really fail to understand why straight people are bashed when they have homosexual family members.


It's not that they have homosexual family members.

It's that they publicly advocate denying homosexuals equal protection of the Law, WHILE HAVING homosexual family members.


So if I happened to have a family member who is gay, I'm not permitted to be against homosexuality? I have to embrace that lifestyle in order to not be branded a hypocrite?

That makes no sense.

And what has Bush specifically said that can be considered "anti-gay?" He may have said he supports a male-female only marriage. No GOP candidate has advocated rounding up the gays and putting them to the slaughter. Maybe some radical christian groups have proposed that but no Republican has ever made that kind of remark.
And I know gays that are AGAINST gay marriage. It's not uniform. And my opinion on the whole thing is that it is a state right. Marriage is not a right guranteed nor denied in the constitution. Marriage is governed by the state government. If you get divorced, you go to state court. It is not federal jurisdiction. If the state wants to allow gays to wed or ban gays to wed, it is their decision to make.

And gay marriage and such is not really an issue this election cycle. So if you want to beat a dead horse....be my guest.

I have also noticed a bit of a war of words between Rove and the Hillary campaign. I certainly think it is possible Hillary leaked this information about Rove. She's the type of bitch that would do that. If her and that corrupt "husband" of hers are capable of murder, then they are certainly capable of dirty politics. Rove better be careful with the Clintons... He's liable to end up dead in a park.


 "If her and that corrupt "husband" of hers are capable of murder, then they are certainly capable of dirty politics. Rove better be careful with the Clintons... He's liable to end up dead in a park."

"If" ?   LOL

Another "conspiracy theory" nut,....exposed......
Just let them talk a bit,and they can`t help but show that strange side of themselves......

Any proof that Bill Clinton murdered anyone?Ya nut,lol....

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RE: Karl Rove`s dad a gay lifestyler - 8/24/2007 7:11:02 AM   
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It's not any different than Cheney's daughter being a lesbian. I really fail to understand why straight people are bashed when they have homosexual family members.


It's not that they have homosexual family members.

It's that they publicly advocate denying homosexuals equal protection of the Law, WHILE HAVING homosexual family members.


So if I happened to have a family member who is gay, I'm not permitted to be against homosexuality? I have to embrace that lifestyle in order to not be branded a hypocrite?


You cannot PUBLICLY denounce them and PRIVATELY support them without being a lying hypocrite.

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And what has Bush specifically said that can be considered "anti-gay?" He may have said he supports a male-female only marriage.


That's enough. In NYS Marriage is a CIVIL CONTRACT, and as per the UCC, Civil Contracts are to be constructed without regard to Gender.

Slam-Dunk. It's over, excepting the nitwits who can't admit they're totally wrong. For some reason we feel we need to coddle these dysfunctional nitwits.



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