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RE: Gaza girl's plight political - 8/23/2007 7:41:47 AM

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You're defiling the thread, RealOne, with your disgusting theories and anti-semitic rants. Offensively inadequate are the words that spring to mind.

What? Quoting Arial Sharon is defiling the thread?

Its so positive!

Anti-israeli rants?

Hey I am sorry if Sharon Offends you ok. I really am

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RE: Gaza girl's plight political - 8/23/2007 7:49:45 AM

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You're defiling the thread, RealOne, with your disgusting theories and anti-semitic rants. Offensively inadequate are the words that spring to mind.

You know, RealOne *is* often out there, but as a Jew who is against the Palestinian Aparthid, and doesn't support the Israeli GOVERNMENT because of their embaresssing ( some would say Criminal ) human rights record, I think we need to keep our objectivity and acknowledge that BOTH PARTIES in the conflict have failed to act with Honor, Integrity and Good Faith, to a degree with undermines BOTH PARTIES credibility.

The Solution? Me? I say Give the West Bank Jordan. Give Egypt the Gaza Strip. And then Israel tells Egypt and Jordan to secure their borders and make sure THEIR CITIZENS don't cross into Israel. Then it's a simple case of Border Control, and not all this bullshit. It becomes the problem of Egypt and Jordan to deal with the lawful Hamas government of Palestine.

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RE: Gaza girl's plight political - 8/23/2007 7:54:12 AM

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As a Jew I get riled up by RealOne's disgusting ideas but you're correct: better to ignore a fool than give them attention.

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RE: Gaza girl's plight political - 8/23/2007 9:01:55 AM

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but you're correct: better to ignore a fool than give them attention.

Thats not what he said.

I am sorry if you find Sharon offensive kit, why you take this as a personal assault on yourself is beyond me unless you agree with sharon in that:

“Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial.” ---Ariel Sharon

Point is and I made this very clear in a thread you most likely did not bother to read there are Jews and then there are jews and then there are yet jews. Not all jews are created equal.

Its unfortunate that you are incapable of differentiating between "good people" and "bad people", when it comes to israelis and have jumped on the lets censor all talk about jews by pulling the racism and/or antisemitism card.

I give farg a mountain of credit, (heres a toast to you farg!), for being jewish and realizing that I am not talking about him or any other Jews that hold his principles. I am talking about the jews that practice sayanim and hold sharons views which can be seen empirically by their actions and or the results of their actions.

I wish I could give you and 59 the same high 5 but you are to bent on drama and internalizing everything regardless of circumstance.

Unless of course your aim is to censor any discussion of isreali ills in which case i do not feel sorry for you.

Would it suit you better if I came on here and simply said all israelis and jews can DO NO WRONG! Only indians and christians are all fucked up. Hows that? Better?

Hell I havent even talked about one of the top 3 influences in American politics, "AIPAC" yet where the american tax payer is forking out 10 billion bucks a year to israel while there are aged people barely existing and homeless people here in the US.

What is that kit, about 15,000 bucks per israeli?

I put up quotes directly from the talmud you call me a fool, now I put up quotes directly from the israeli press that Sharon made and still you call me a fool.

Of course you feel I should just shut up because the mere mention of the word israeli in anything less than "praise be to israeli on high" is "anti semitism" or "racism" in your very "objective" assessment.

cough...

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RE: Gaza girl's plight political - 8/23/2007 9:07:55 AM

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Really? Here's what you said to me:

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Speaking of lies, wanna talk about the 6 million jews that hitler supposedly wasted which were more than the total of the census polls in the occupied territories and then magically "immediately after the ww2" germany had to pay restitution to 4.5 million jews? I guess they grew out of the bomb craters.

How is ariel these days? Read talmud lately?

You're full of it and you're offensive. Buh bye.

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RE: Gaza girl's plight political - 8/23/2007 9:11:23 AM

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As a Jew I get riled up by RealOne's disgusting ideas but you're correct: better to ignore a fool than give them attention.

well i find your tactics and your calling me a fool offensive, especially when you have put up NOTHING to back up your position

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You're defiling the thread, RealOne, with your disgusting theories and anti-semitic rants. Offensively inadequate are the words that spring to mind.

Oh yeh and I find your unjustly labelling me an antisemite reprehensible and disturbing to be kind.

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RE: Gaza girl's plight political - 8/23/2007 10:27:48 AM

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Actually Real we have been through your fake quotes before. According to Hamas that is what Isreali radio said.

Every inch of West Bank, every inch of Gaza, every inch of east Jerusalem, and every inch of the Golan was in arqab controll from 1948-1967. The Arabs locked the people in camps, and continued to make war on the Isrealis.

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RE: Gaza girl's plight political - 8/23/2007 1:16:21 PM

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Actually Real we have been through your fake quotes before. According to Hamas that is what Isreali radio said.

Every inch of West Bank, every inch of Gaza, every inch of east Jerusalem, and every inch of the Golan was in arqab controll from 1948-1967. The Arabs locked the people in camps, and continued to make war on the Isrealis.

Another flip slander huh? prove that I faked any of my quotes.

Another imaginary argument too? cite precisely what the arabs have to do with anything I said in this thread.

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RE: Gaza girl's plight political - 8/23/2007 6:52:49 PM

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The Solution? Me? I say Give the West Bank Jordan. Give Egypt the Gaza Strip. And then Israel tells Egypt and Jordan to secure their borders and make sure THEIR CITIZENS don't cross into Israel. Then it's a simple case of Border Control, and not all this bullshit. It becomes the problem of Egypt and Jordan to deal with the lawful Hamas government of Palestine.

Good plan but frankly I dont see it ever happening simply because there is way to much money involved.

To the tune of 10 billion bucks per year of our tax money goes to israel that to the best of my knowledge is not expected to be paid back. and what would they pay it back with anyway! Its nothing more than a hand out deal while we have old people in this country who can hardly afford to pay for their utilities and rent.

I havent looked up the figures for palestine but where is the incentive to have peace when adversary is so properous at a rate of about 15k per isaeli per year freebee?

Then the real kick in the teeth is some of that same money in turn is used to fund one of the 3 largest pac groups of this nation and is also donated to presidential elections.

What possible reason would they ever have for peace beyond creative lip service?

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RE: Gaza girl's plight political - 8/24/2007 3:32:28 AM

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Surely the ins and outs of how Hammas operates should not deflect from the OP about this poor girl. It`s a disgrace thet the Israelis are even considering moving her at all.

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RE: Gaza girl's plight political - 8/24/2007 3:54:49 AM

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Actually Real we have been through your fake quotes before. According to Hamas that is what Isreali radio said.

Every inch of West Bank, every inch of Gaza, every inch of east Jerusalem, and every inch of the Golan was in arqab controll from 1948-1967. The Arabs locked the people in camps, and continued to make war on the Isrealis.

Maybe that was because Zionists stole land and property from thousands of christian and muslim Arabs at gun point? The British advised thousands of others to disappear for the weekend and then abandoned them to have their land and property confiscated by the Zionists. Ben Gurion and Co were not backwards at coming forwards in having their hate filledracist rants recorded. It is laughable for the west to point at Hamas now and call them terrorists, they are a product of a conflict that that organisation didn't begin.

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RE: Gaza girl's plight political - 8/24/2007 5:21:31 AM

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I give farg a mountain of credit, (heres a toast to you farg!), for being jewish and realizing that I am not talking about him or any other Jews that hold his principles. I am talking about the jews that practice sayanim and hold sharons views which can be seen empirically by their actions and or the results of their actions.

I keep The Government and The People VERY separate in my mind.

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RE: Gaza girl's plight political - 8/24/2007 6:47:31 AM

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I give farg a mountain of credit, (heres a toast to you farg!), for being jewish and realizing that I am not talking about him or any other Jews that hold his principles. I am talking about the jews that practice sayanim and hold sharons views which can be seen empirically by their actions and or the results of their actions.

I keep The Government and The People VERY separate in my mind.

That's how it should be but often not how it is which is why the human race has so many wars.

Give someone a god and a flag and you can get them to kill anyone.

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