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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 6/28/2007 12:03:57 AM   
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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 6/28/2007 4:33:54 AM   
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It was all pretty scary...especially when you think it's just so a bunch of people can watch a "fake" sporting event.


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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 6/28/2007 5:15:12 AM   
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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 6/28/2007 6:06:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I just read a link in the other thread: 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070627/ap_on_re_us/wrestler_dead

the son was mentally retarded






this does not make it ok, I am a special needs teacher and I work very closely with families in and out of school and aid them get all the help they need....

stress and killing is not a reason or an excuse... for ANYTHING!!

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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 6/28/2007 6:36:16 AM   
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this does not make it ok,


Whoah diz, I'm sure Katy wasn't suggesting it was. She was just adding to the facts now being gradually uncovered.

If anything, this just makes it more tragic. 'Roid rage causes an increase in anger (rage), and it does not necessarily affect the moral center of the individual. I've had friends who used/abused steroids. I've seen their rages. They didn't kill anyone - CERTAINLY NOT their families!

I'm sure it will come out that this guy had more problems than just steroids. Something I read was that both wife and child had Bibles at their feet. I'm not sure if that's an indication of remorse or delusion.

I also read he text-messaged friends to make sure his dog was taken care of. That diplays a disturbing sense of priorities...

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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 6/28/2007 7:39:53 AM   
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this does not make it ok, I am a special needs teacher and I work very closely with families in and out of school and aid them get all the help they need....


Wow, what gave you the impression that I think this makes it okay?
Sheesh, get a grip.


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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 6/28/2007 8:14:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was not giving that impression what so ever... ahh the medium of typing and all reading in there own way....

I was merely commenting on the statement as it was typed as though it was such a final comment, I have also read many news links etc and nearly all of them blame the stress of the son's disability on the tragic events.... 2007, sometimes it seems as though we have never moved on!!!

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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 6/28/2007 8:33:00 AM   
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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 6/28/2007 10:20:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		special needs children are just that......................special....If you cannot handle your child because of his/ her special needs then PLEASE find a place/ people who can..There are many loving people in this world..killing a child, well, is not the answer. With all the money Chris Benoit had, you would have thought he would have made arrangements for his child and just taken his own life....

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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 6/28/2007 1:52:40 PM   
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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 6/28/2007 6:23:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: diz

I was not giving that impression what so ever... ahh the medium of typing and all reading in there own way....

I was merely commenting on the statement as it was typed as though it was such a final comment, I have also read many news links etc and nearly all of them blame the stress of the son's disability on the tragic events.... 2007, sometimes it seems as though we have never moved on!!!

Maybe we should ask people what they meant if we are offended or bothered by comments. i was called into the office last year for e-mails that i had sent. i felt i stated facts , since the receipient didnt know me well they assumed they were rude. i'm rarely rude and only when others are rude to me. we cant see expressions , so lets not ASSUME.
 its a very good thread  although all this caused me to question my faith and trust in my Master. due to my history and never having a master before. but i brought it up to him and he eased all my fears.
Daddy made the boogieman disappear forever, made it all better.

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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 6/28/2007 8:54:30 PM   
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While that might not measure up to taking care of a special needs child, I can tell you that the last thing on my mind was murder. I could care less what your reasons, taking out whatever is going on in your head on a small child is, perhaps, the most evil thing anyone can do. There is a special place in Hell for those people.

Krissi said it well: if you cannot care for the child, give them to someone that can and will.

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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 6/29/2007 6:20:02 AM   
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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 7/8/2007 9:22:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I actually got to meet Benoit in person a couple of months back.  

I cannot begin to say how courteous and polite he was. He would humbly accept to take photos. And he would humbly sign.  

And when signing he would even ask "where do you want it" and proceed to slowly and carefully sign.  

When I heard the initial reports I simply could not believe they had truth in them. Having watched him on the screen for so long, having seen him interact with the audience at live events, and having met him, it was just left in disbelief. If you told me my uncle did that I'd be equally shocked. I was so hoping for something more to surface (and still am).

Here is a picture of me with Benoit (I presume since it's a picture of me and a celebrity and it's not hot linked that it's ok to post): http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6854/1003436lp4.jpg

His autograph is on the upper right: http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7208/1003438go0.jpg (I also got Batista and Edge that same day, John Cena I had met before).

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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 7/9/2007 10:03:10 PM   
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But you can just copy/paste it or click this one: http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7208/1003438go0.jpg

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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 7/9/2007 11:10:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am sure Chris Benoit was a very kind and sweet man but if indeed he was dealing with steroids....drugs can make the kindest person turn evil...I cannot say that enough.

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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 7/10/2007 3:24:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gauge

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ORIGINAL: JerseyKrissi72

He was found dead in his home, he hung himself in his weight room...authorities found his wife and young son dead as wellit appears he killed his wife and smothered his young son to death then took his own life...he was one hell of a wrestler..makes me wonder what could drive someone to do such a thing? especially someone so loved and successful.




The authorities suspect steroid use and "roid rage."


What I found even more pathetic was that the WWE canceled their Monday night show and the USA network gave a three hour tribute to the man who just murdered his family... as if he should be remembered for something other than the fact that He was a drug abusing murdering piece of shit! 

Harsh? You bet. I will never figure out the thinking behind killing your family and then offing yourself. You want to off yourself, do it... no need to kill those around you.

Ditto! And, his most basic responsibilty in his marriage was to protect his wife and their innocent baby!
 
I agree with MizMia, RIP for the innocents.
 
Re: comments about steroids and how we condone it. I never did. My son was hooked on pro wrestling at an early age and the second I found out about the steroid problems and how FAKE it all was: I educated my son on both things and banned pro-wrestling shows for him in my home.

I put him in Martial arts at 5 1/2 yrs old at his request. He was the youngest student to ever be included by that Master, so he learned great discipline, both spiritually and physically at an early age. 

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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 7/10/2007 2:46:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: YesMistressIrish
Re: comments about steroids and how we condone it. I never did. My son was hooked on pro wrestling at an early age and the second I found out about the steroid problems and how FAKE it all was: I educated my son on both things and banned pro-wrestling shows for him in my home.


So do you ban movies because they're fake and more than one actor probably has history of drug and alcohol problems as well?

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RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead - 7/10/2007 3:26:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I never thought about that...maybe ban them from watching Paris Hilton.....learning from her that we can do anything we want and spend 20 days in jail (which in her case she was treated like a princess) and probably end up making more millions writing a book about it

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