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JerseyKrissi72 -> Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/26/2007 2:24:39 PM)

He was found dead in his home, he hung himself in his weight room...authorities found his wife and young son dead as well[&:]it appears he killed his wife and smothered his young son to death then took his own life...he was one hell of a wrestler..makes me wonder what could drive someone to do such a thing? especially someone so loved and successful.




Gauge -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/26/2007 2:34:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JerseyKrissi72

He was found dead in his home, he hung himself in his weight room...authorities found his wife and young son dead as well[&:]it appears he killed his wife and smothered his young son to death then took his own life...he was one hell of a wrestler..makes me wonder what could drive someone to do such a thing? especially someone so loved and successful.



The authorities suspect steroid use and "roid rage."


What I found even more pathetic was that the WWE canceled their Monday night show and the USA network gave a three hour tribute to the man who just murdered his family... as if he should be remembered for something other than the fact that he was a drug abusing, murdering piece of shit.

Harsh? You bet. I will never figure out the thinking behind killing your family and then offing yourself. You want to off yourself, do it... no need to kill those around you.




JerseyKrissi72 -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/26/2007 2:37:25 PM)

I don't understand how they could dedicate an entire show to him, I agree with you there. He was one of my favorite wrestlers til I found out this news. I figure someone who kills their family then themselves is a coward....




RazorJAK -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/26/2007 3:26:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Gauge

quote:

ORIGINAL: JerseyKrissi72

He was found dead in his home, he hung himself in his weight room...authorities found his wife and young son dead as well[&:]it appears he killed his wife and smothered his young son to death then took his own life...he was one hell of a wrestler..makes me wonder what could drive someone to do such a thing? especially someone so loved and successful.



The authorities suspect steroid use and "roid rage."


What I found even more pathetic was that the WWE canceled their Monday night show and the USA network gave a three hour tribute to the man who just murdered his family... as if he should be remembered for something other than the fact that he was a drug abusing, murdering piece of shit.

Harsh? You bet. I will never figure out the thinking behind killing your family and then offing yourself. You want to off yourself, do it... no need to kill those around you.


Not to defend Vince the Scumbag,  but at the time the decision was made to air the tribute,  no details had been released.  At the time,  for all we knew it could have been a crazed fan pulling a Mark David Chapman.





MzMia -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/26/2007 3:31:08 PM)

R.I.P little innocent 7 year old baby.
 
R.I.P.  Nancy Sullivan/Woman/Fallen Angel
 
Woman

I am sorry you were murdered.
 




favesclava -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/26/2007 6:26:37 PM)

to those of us who have suffered spousal abuse and lucky enough to have survived this is very sad. not because she was married to a famous man, but becuase she aqd her baby died at the hands of the one who should have protected her from the bad in the world.
i am sorry and crying.




FullCircle -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/27/2007 1:48:15 PM)

I wonder if he used a ladder at all??? Nevermind.




JerseyKrissi72 -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/27/2007 1:51:49 PM)

steroids can make people go crazy.......[&:]




KatyLied -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/27/2007 1:54:45 PM)

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3320736&page=1

Son may have died in a chokehold.
Steroids can cause rage and mood swings.
scroll down the article for info regarding possible domestic violence




diz -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/27/2007 1:55:25 PM)

sometimes....... just sometimes you wonder wtf goes on in other peoples heads!!




IEvolve -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/27/2007 2:02:34 PM)

Here is an excerpt from a editorial by Kevin Hench, Fox Sports:

Professional wrestling is fake.

The carnage it has left in its wake is not.

Add Chris Benoit to the long list of freakishly muscled carnival attractions for whom a pro wrestling career ended tragically.
The Benoit story is the latest and most tragic installment in an ongoing saga that the men who get rich promoting professional wrestling would prefer their fans didn't know too much about.
Vince McMahon wants you to think about the stars of today and tomorrow, not the cemetery of steroid-fueled bodies his "sport" has helped put in the ground. But on the grim occasion of the deaths of Nancy and Daniel and Chris Benoit, let's remember some of the other pro wrestlers who died before their time.
  • Ravishing Rick Rude — Died at 40 of an apparent heart attack in 1999, a bottle of prescription pills for his bad back at his side. The autopsy report said he died of "mixed medications." Rude was an admitted user of anabolic steroids.
  • Louis Mucciolo, a.k.a, Louie Spicolli — Died in 1998 at age 27 when he suffocated on his own vomit after ingesting massive amounts of Soma and alcohol. Investigators also found an empty vial of testosterone, pain pills and an anti-anxiety drug at the scene.
  • Brian Pillman — An admitted user of steroids, he died of a heart attack at age 35 in 1997 on the morning of WWF's In Your House: Badd Blood pay-per-view event.
  • Rick "the Renegade" Williams — Died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at age 33 after being released from his World Championship Wrestling contract in 1999.
  • "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig — Found dead of a cocaine overdose at age 44 in his motel room on April 10, 2003, the morning of a match. Hennig's father maintained that steroids and painkillers contributed to his death.
  • Rodney "Yokozuna" Anoa'i — Died of a heart attack in 2002 at 34.
  • Davey Boy Smith, "The British Bulldog" — Died of a heart attack at age 39 on May 17, 2002. An autopsy report indicated that past steroid use had likely played a part in his death.
  • Michael "Road Warrior Hawk" Hegstrand — An admitted steroid user, he died of a heart attack at age 46 in 2003.
  • Michael Lockwood, "Crash Holly" — In 2003, at the age of 32, he choked to death on his own vomit after ingesting 90 painkiller pills.
  • Jerry Tuite, "The Wall" a.k.a. "Malice" — Died at age 36 in 2003 of an apparent heart attack in his hotel room.
  • Raymond "Hercules" Hernandez — Dead of heart failure in 2004 at age 47.
  • Ray "The Big Boss Man" Traylor — Found dead of a heart attack in 2004 at age 42.
  • Eddie Guerrero — After a long battle with painkillers, he was found dead of a heart attack by his nephew in his hotel room at age 38. The first person his nephew reportedly called was Guerrero's best friend, Chris Benoit.
  • Chris Candido — Died in 2005 at age 33 from a blood clot after breaking his tibia and fibula and dislocating his ankle in a pay-per-view event.
  • Owen Hart — Fell to his death at age 34 in 1999 when the rigging that was lowering him into the ring malfunctioned.
    And now Chris Benoit, his wife and son have been added to the long, unbearably sad list of victims claimed, in part, by the brutal chemical calculus that is professional wrestling.
    There is no arguing that the physical capabilities of these massive men can provide awesome theater. When Hulk Hogan lifted the 500-pound Andre the Giant and dropped him to the canvas, it was legitimately hugely thrilling.
    But keep in mind there is a price these impossibly engorged specimens are paying for your entertainment.
    And the price for many of them is their very lives.




  • Gauge -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/27/2007 3:03:20 PM)

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    But keep in mind there is a price these impossibly engorged specimens are paying for your entertainment.
    And the price for many of them is their very lives.


    Tough for me to feel sorry for these people if they took steroids knowing the dangers related to their use. We don't ask them to pump up their bodies... we do not demand it, and I dare say that we do not sanction it. It is their choice.




    diz -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/27/2007 3:22:00 PM)

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: IEvolve

    Here is an excerpt from a editorial by Kevin Hench, Fox Sports:

    Professional wrestling is fake.

    The carnage it has left in its wake is not.

    Add Chris Benoit to the long list of freakishly muscled carnival attractions for whom a pro wrestling career ended tragically.
    The Benoit story is the latest and most tragic installment in an ongoing saga that the men who get rich promoting professional wrestling would prefer their fans didn't know too much about.
    Vince McMahon wants you to think about the stars of today and tomorrow, not the cemetery of steroid-fueled bodies his "sport" has helped put in the ground. But on the grim occasion of the deaths of Nancy and Daniel and Chris Benoit, let's remember some of the other pro wrestlers who died before their time.
  • Ravishing Rick Rude — Died at 40 of an apparent heart attack in 1999, a bottle of prescription pills for his bad back at his side. The autopsy report said he died of "mixed medications." Rude was an admitted user of anabolic steroids.
  • Louis Mucciolo, a.k.a, Louie Spicolli — Died in 1998 at age 27 when he suffocated on his own vomit after ingesting massive amounts of Soma and alcohol. Investigators also found an empty vial of testosterone, pain pills and an anti-anxiety drug at the scene.
  • Brian Pillman — An admitted user of steroids, he died of a heart attack at age 35 in 1997 on the morning of WWF's In Your House: Badd Blood pay-per-view event.
  • Rick "the Renegade" Williams — Died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at age 33 after being released from his World Championship Wrestling contract in 1999.
  • "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig — Found dead of a cocaine overdose at age 44 in his motel room on April 10, 2003, the morning of a match. Hennig's father maintained that steroids and painkillers contributed to his death.
  • Rodney "Yokozuna" Anoa'i — Died of a heart attack in 2002 at 34.
  • Davey Boy Smith, "The British Bulldog" — Died of a heart attack at age 39 on May 17, 2002. An autopsy report indicated that past steroid use had likely played a part in his death.
  • Michael "Road Warrior Hawk" Hegstrand — An admitted steroid user, he died of a heart attack at age 46 in 2003.
  • Michael Lockwood, "Crash Holly" — In 2003, at the age of 32, he choked to death on his own vomit after ingesting 90 painkiller pills.
  • Jerry Tuite, "The Wall" a.k.a. "Malice" — Died at age 36 in 2003 of an apparent heart attack in his hotel room.
  • Raymond "Hercules" Hernandez — Dead of heart failure in 2004 at age 47.
  • Ray "The Big Boss Man" Traylor — Found dead of a heart attack in 2004 at age 42.
  • Eddie Guerrero — After a long battle with painkillers, he was found dead of a heart attack by his nephew in his hotel room at age 38. The first person his nephew reportedly called was Guerrero's best friend, Chris Benoit.
  • Chris Candido — Died in 2005 at age 33 from a blood clot after breaking his tibia and fibula and dislocating his ankle in a pay-per-view event.
  • Owen Hart — Fell to his death at age 34 in 1999 when the rigging that was lowering him into the ring malfunctioned.
    And now Chris Benoit, his wife and son have been added to the long, unbearably sad list of victims claimed, in part, by the brutal chemical calculus that is professional wrestling.
    There is no arguing that the physical capabilities of these massive men can provide awesome theater. When Hulk Hogan lifted the 500-pound Andre the Giant and dropped him to the canvas, it was legitimately hugely thrilling.
    But keep in mind there is a price these impossibly engorged specimens are paying for your entertainment.
    And the price for many of them is their very lives.



  • I knew about Owen Hart dying as he did, BUT I am honestly shocked, I wondered where some of these people had gone to, amazed that they had died!!


    Tragic




    michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/27/2007 3:30:48 PM)

    personally, i think it's all bull and the cops are looking for an easy out so they won't have to waste time looking for the real case...but that's just me.

    we say Benoit the weekend before all this occured and i just don't see that he could have switched off like that. but, of course, my faith in law enforcement is almost non-existant. i don't think they could find a donut in Dunkin' Donuts.




    fyreredsub -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/27/2007 3:41:40 PM)

    dont forget sensational sherri, she dies at age 49...i beleive it was a heart attack.

    and miss elizabeth , dies in her sleep of a steroid od..
    and lex luger had been brought in for questioning in her death(they lived together in an atl suburb),he was questioned on the steroids found in the house and their tumultous(sp) history and fights that the cops were out to the house often about.




    Aswad -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/27/2007 4:31:33 PM)

    I'd like to chime in on this...

    I lost a friend to an event like this one a few years ago, with a high-caliber revolver at point-blank.
    I have talked to people who were in the mindspace to do this kind of thing for various reasons.
    I know people who were long-term steroid abusers, one of which is "winding down" now.
    I study psychiatry and the foundations of the human mind.

    And my single insight into it is ... it could be any one of us.

    Yes, in this case, it would seem likely to be because of the steroids, whether directly or indirectly. As such, one could of course assign blame, but in reality we do ask them to take them, and condone them doing so. Several professionals in the field have as much as said that you just don't end up looking like the average WWE wrestler without doing steroids, and people want to see it. In reality, it falls under the heading of "cost of doing business".

    And while steroid use is known to be a problem, it is also something that falls under the heading of "calculated risk" and can be managed as such; in most cases, if you can find a doctor who is willing to monitor the use, it is not at all as risky as people have been raised to think, although it is still risky. The main problem is with people who pick it up and use it without medical supervision, which is also just silly, as it's not that hard to find a doctor who would rather manage the risk (damage reduction approach) than refuse (total abstention approach).

    Also, from seeing the one who is now winding down from it, I can say that a lot of these guys probably started out when they were too young to think through the long-term consequences, some of them probably starting out before the dangers were widely known. Winding down is just the kind of thing a lot of these people would have a problem with. It requires training harder than you ever did, except now all you're doing is lose muscle, you just have to train that much more to avoid looking like a ruined husk covered in skin that no longer even remotely fits you. And along the way, you will feel some or all of the consequences of dropping hormone levels: mental impairment, loss of energy, loss of libido, erectile dysfunction, depression, and so forth.

    Not an excuse, as such, but it's fairly understandable how it comes to be.

    And, we don't know that steroids were the cause here.

    There are a lot of conditions that can cause a person to snap this way.

    I lost a friend because her father had a brain tumor. The doctors were treating it as usual, but one day it started pushing on the wrong parts of his brain, and he "lost it". It is incomprehensible to anyone who hasn't experienced a psychotic mindspace, but suffice to say that it wasn't "him" doing these things. He got a high-caliber revolver and shot his family, including his daughter (my friend), and then shot himself.

    Do I blame the father? No. He was ill, and there was just no way to predict the outcome.
    Shit happens. Stuff breaks. People die. That's just life, we can't safeguard everything.

    There are also several other somatic and mental illnesses that can cause events of this sort to happen. The commonality is that the person ends up in a psychotic mindspace, and aren't themselves in the usual sense. There is little in the way of coherent thinking, no real understanding of cause and effect, no real "touch" with reality, and their usual personality doesn't manifest the usual way.

    Certain prescription drugs can cause such things during normal, doctor-supervised use.

    And most psychotic events don't end up with tragedies like this. I've had the unpleasant opportunity to experience brief psychotic events due to proper use of prescription drugs in the past, and can honestly say I wasn't me at the time. Nothing serious came out of it, but I can easily understand how it could go wrong, given the "right" circumstances for that.

    In my case, I have some experience in managing alternate states, and doing rigorous "reality testing", so in my case, I had the discipline not to physically interact with the world around me in any way until the episodes passed, but a regular person doesn't have that. It just feels completely real and you're certain you're yourself and in control of your faculties, until afterwards. That's how I felt, too, even though the ingrained habits that let me control it told me differently; I had to behave in a way that seemed insane at the time, because I trusted (not "knew", but "trusted") that it was the right thing to do.

    In short, if there's anything to blame him for, it's for starting the steroids in the first place.

    People can have a surprise heart attack while driving a car, and crash. Nobody will blame them for that, even if their lifestyle was one that increased the likelyhood of having a heart attack. There's no reason to judge more harshly when other organs fail in a surprising manner, even when that organ is the brain. That's just how the body works.

    We don't demand that people be able to fly, because it's easy to see that they can't.

    Just because it isn't quite as easy to see where some other conditions mandate a specific outcome, such as with transient failures in the brain, doesn't mean that it's any more reasonable to expect (or demand) people to cope better with that than with a heart attack, or that it's any more reasonable to assign blame for it.

    Again, if the steroids were the definite cause, one could of course blame him for starting in the first place, just like we can blame anorectic kids for having tried to live up to the modern "ideal appearance" and giving in to peer pressure, and can blame smokers for having started smoking, or whatever.

    But the event itself is dictated by circumstance, cause and effect.




    KatyLied -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/27/2007 5:36:37 PM)

    I just read a link in the other thread: 
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070627/ap_on_re_us/wrestler_dead

    the son was mentally retarded






    JerseyKrissi72 -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/27/2007 6:51:21 PM)

    I can understand the stress of having a child with disabilities. With my youngest son being mildly autistic there were many nights when he was 2-3 years old when he would be up all night long rocking, singing and yelling for no apparant reason and many times when you are sleep deprived that you think you're just gonna lose it....but in such situations, you need to FIND resources to help you- whether it be church, family or friends...time for "yourself"....there is no excuse for abuse. plain and simple.




    RaynaSub -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/27/2007 7:54:14 PM)

    Thank you so much for sharing this information with us IEvolve.
    I watch professional wrestling every now and then, but I had no idea
    this many people were tragically effected by it.




    lilsubl -> RE: Chris Benoit, WWE Wrestler Found Dead (6/27/2007 7:58:53 PM)

    i gotta agree with you, Krissi...the little ones we make depend on us to love them & care for them & protect them & keep them safe, no matter what...as adults, we need to make sure that we don't break their trust...if that means putting them somewhere out of harm's way while we pull ourselves together that's what we have to do...i put my daughter in foster care when she was younger, cause i had undiagnosed depression & anxiety...i didn't know what was wrong, just that she had to be cared for & protected, even from me.....




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