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RE: Tojo's granddaughter - 6/13/2007 1:17:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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Ultimately he deserved what he got and it is unfortunate that MacArthur had a monarch fetish or the Hirohito could have died beside him.


Fortunately the leadership of the USA in 1945 was far more enlightened than the leadership today. If you look at the post war years, while not every US decision was perfect, they did a pretty good job. Maybe they made compromises because thee were aware of the USSR emerging as a power to challenge the US and realises a Japan and Germany would be better on the side of the US. Whatever, the state of Japan and Germany today shows whatever the reasons the US took some good decisions. Revenge for revenge's sake would have just created countries that nursed revenge into the future.

But maybe you are a Bushite and think that making every country in the world hate America is what is called a job well done.

Wow, just wow.

Let me educate you on some things.

We executed all of the top leadership in Germany that was alive after the war. There is no doubt that had he not did it himself Hitler would have caught a bullet after an unpleasant stay at Nuremberg. At Nuremberg 209 Nazis stood in the dock and the overwhelming majority we found guilty of at least one crime.

However in Tokyo MacArthur guaranteed the Japanese leadership that Hirohito and his family would not even be indicted before the war crimes tribunal even sat to begin considering indictments. Furthermore MacArthur allowed the the showa government to coach witnesses to avoid implicating members of the imperial families as well as supporting the war crimes suspects themselves in coordinating their testimony to avoid implicating any imperial family member.

see:
John Dower, Embracing defeat, 1999
Herbert Bix, Hirohito and the making of modern Japan, 2000

Hirohito was a war criminal. He knew what his government was doing and he made no effort to stop it. Bush deserves to stand in the dock in the Hague for his crimes and Hirohito should have faced the Tokyo Tribunal.


The majority of Germans in 1945 would have gladly killed their Nazi leadership themselves while the Japanese would have carried on fighting until the last man to save their Emperor, who was the one who pushed the decision to surrender.

Sometimes pacts with the devil have to be made for the best available outcome. Life isn't full of absolutes and the people who think it is are usually suffering from some sort of psychosis.

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