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renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/5/2007 10:31:47 PM   
RealBlackGoddess


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Status: offline 		His current "scene" name is Spartacus, given to him by a former Mistress. Have you renamed your slaves/submissives? What criteria did You go by?
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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/5/2007 10:34:27 PM   
littlesarbonn


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Status: offline 		If he's "yours", then my belief is that you can name him whatever you desire. However, if his scene name has been something that everyone has known for a long time, you'll have a difficult time getting other people to call him by his new name if they've known him by that old name for years. It's not impossible, but it can be a concern. Strangely enough, I've never had a dominant even give me a name.

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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/5/2007 11:03:05 PM   
onthenosetone


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Status: offline 		My Ma'am's scene name is Essentia, she named me ccs2essentia.......people are now always trying to figure what the ccs stands for which amuses her as it's not what would be the obvious....

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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/5/2007 11:35:01 PM   
spanklette


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Status: offline 		I think this would really depend on how much it bothers you that his name was issued by another dominant and how many people know him by that name. It's not unheard of, certainly, but it is really difficult to try and remember someone's new name after they've changed it.
 
As far as what to change it to...I would use his personality as a jumping off point, or yours, for that matter. Maybe find a word in English that you think is appropriate and then take a look at different languages for something that strikes you.
 
Just a few ideas from someone who still has the same name issued by her first Master.
 
 

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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/5/2007 11:40:24 PM   
Masque66


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Status: offline 		I undoubtedly plan to rename my slave at some point.  It's such an astounding thing to so fundamentally alter someone's identity to your personal tastes.

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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/5/2007 11:56:51 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		I think we should name them Madison, Kayla, Kendra, Mackenzie...

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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/6/2007 3:03:07 AM   
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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/6/2007 3:44:03 AM   
Areflectionofyou


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Status: offline 		::phew:: glad he likes my name

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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/6/2007 5:14:19 AM   
earthycouple


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Status: offline 		I don't "rename" people.  I do give my own personal nickname to people I care for.  My husband and I have called each other "babe" since we met.  I don't call my subs/slaves things like pet or boy.  I prefer a nickname that is genuine to us.  I also prefer the more formal use of a name my slave is called Bob by some of his family.  I choose to call him Robert. 

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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/6/2007 7:20:49 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		I have pet names I've come to call him based on our experiences together- most common he is my Captain.  But never felt a need or desire for a specific "slave name."

And while it might matter little on some levels, naming is a very old and powerful ritual that shows solidarity and a deep level of connection. 

Did you legally have his name changed, or is it a personal ritual between you both?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_349648/mpage_1/key_naming/tm.htm#349747
naming of slave

http://www.collarchat.com/m_826095/mpage_1/key_naming/tm.htm#826295
titles descriptions and words of endearment

http://www.collarchat.com/m_289830/mpage_1/key_names/tm.htm#289907
pet names

http://www.collarchat.com/m_339206/mpage_1/key_naming/tm.htm#339395
doms naming subs

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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/6/2007 8:16:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		My "scene name" is Aqua. His is Valyraen. Aqua is a name I've always had and it just works for me. I don't know how I would feel if someone decided to change it. I don't think I'd be very happy about it. He calls me Kitten, but that's his name for me. Others should call me either Aqua or by my real name.

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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/6/2007 8:24:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've always encouraged mine to choose their own name. I will only name them if they request it. Although, I have expanded my girl's "title" in a teasing sort of way, letting her know I recognize all her sides. Instead of slave girl anne, I sometimes call her "little slave girl Syr anne". *chuckle* My girl has many facets.

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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/6/2007 8:34:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		My 'scene name' aka screenname is 'slaverosebeauty' most shorten it to 'rose' or 'beauty,' or if you are in my group on yahoo, 'delicious.' I have never had a partner change my name or ask me too; the ONLY name change I would consider would be my LAST name to change.  As for online, I have a few other accounts on yahoo, and aol, and people call me by those various sn's, not a big deal. In r/t, partners call me by my given name or sometimes a 'pet name.' I don't mind, heck, my best friend an I use other names for eachother, besides 'bitch.'

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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/6/2007 8:57:30 AM   
imthatacheyouhav


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Status: offline 		A lady friend of mine used to call me "Lou"...LOL (long story).....but i can't say that Master is even thinking of renaming me..and if He is He hasnt shared that info with me yet....

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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/6/2007 10:15:50 AM   
SirDominic


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quote:

naming is a very old and powerful ritual that shows solidarity and a deep level of connection.


Exactly right. Which is one of the reasons I have always renamed my subs and slaves. Though that name remains private between us. It is not a matter of showing my dominance, but rather of bringing us together. It has also been therapeutic when someone has come from a difficult background. Their new name symbolizes their new start in life, on a more positive, trusting path.

Namaste, Sir Dominic

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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/6/2007 10:27:55 AM   
adoracat


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Status: offline 		Sir renamed me.  he had that name engraved on my bracelet, my public collar.  that isnt all he calls me, but it means a great deal to me.  he also never calls me by my actual given name because i cant stand it.

kitten, who got named *that* after an otherlove watched me stretch one morning....


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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/6/2007 10:30:33 AM   
thetammyjo


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ORIGINAL: RealBlackGoddess

His current "scene" name is Spartacus, given to him by a former Mistress. Have you renamed your slaves/submissives? What criteria did You go by?


I only rename for training and to mark ownership.

After that if it turns into a casual play dynamic (very very rare with me) we just keep that name for scenes.

If it turns into an ownership dynamic I find it much easier to just use their given name or a name they asked their friends to use for them on a daily basis. My owning someone does not stop when they aren't with me or we are with other people so I no longer need the signal of a different name to help me seperate scene time from non-scene time. The slave name then becomes a sort of term of endearment for only our most private or intense moments.

< Message edited by thetammyjo -- 6/6/2007 10:32:09 AM >

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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/6/2007 12:14:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		As a submissive, which is what I first was because of the needs I had with my son's situation, I had a Master that renamed me twice.  Once was to mark ownership and an in general name and then when I had done well and had shown who I was with him, I was renamed a name more fitting to us. The name he chose was a symbol of his pride in me.

When I collared my submissive I did pick a name for him because he would need something to use online and when we played.  I chose something that I could use in public without any attention being given to it and so that when in public when I wished to have his full attention while being distracted by others or the situation, I could use the name and he would know how serious I was.

There are many things that I do with my submissive because of his past relationship.  Her way was not my way and I wasn't too impressed so I do go out of my way to change things.  Whether it be a name or a reason for some lesson or in how I teach him, I do things differently to show him and assure him that I am not on the same playing field as she was and it's an all new situation.  For her it seemed a game... for me it is our life.  Of course I want him to move past the past and see that everything is different and new and a new name denotes that.  Plus it shows him that I cared enough to give him something specail for us and he loves that. 

(In no way am I saying I think others should do it this way or are lacking if they haven't.  There are a lot of reasons for what people do and we just had reasons to work on getting the old out and the new and lasting in. lol)

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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/6/2007 12:31:18 PM   
Mercnbeth


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Status: offline 		I did.

Elizabeth lends itself to may forms from Betty to Liz. When she introduced herself she said that any form was fine. She said many friends called her Liz and her family used Elizabeth. she said the only form she didn't particularly care for was beth and nobody used it. From that point on, for me - she was beth.

It became a name reference for the lifestyle she was contemplating with me. It distinguished and set a demarcation line from her previous life to the one considered with me. she told me that it was very effective for those purposes. After all this time I don't think it creates the same deep "head-space" as it used to, but it still works on some level. 

To this day, I introduce her and refer to her as Elizabeth to everyone. I want it to be special and representative of our relationship. When I call her beth the look exchanged between us tells me that my name for her has special meaning. 

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RE: renaming your slaves/submissives - 6/6/2007 1:52:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's a lot like my own story.  Growing up I was just generic "Elizabeth" to everyone and "Beth" to my family.  As I grew up, Beth came to symbolize being a baby/incapable/invisible since that's what I often was in my family and I wanted to divorce from that and just began introducing myself to everyone as Liz.  To me it was a symbol of independence and strength.

Also, no matter how slow I say it, no matter how enunciated I tried to make it, no one got "Elizabeth" the first time around.  They always asked me to repeat it.  Liz- no problems and quick for memory (except on the phone, a lot of people seem to hear "Lisa")

I can't tell you how awesome it was to get my first certificate with "Liz" as my name.

My father's family has been fairly untrainable but I just let it go with them.

Otherwise, I'm just Liz everywhere.

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