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ORIGINAL: slaverosebeauty

Where I am, we HAVE to show a government issue ID to vote [military id, drivers license or state id ... passports, social security cards, etc are NOT permitted]. They check your ID twice, once when you give your name ans address, then again after you sign and they give your ballot.

Sad thing is, with as many people who ARE registered to vote most don't [I have in EVEYR election since I turned 18, tyvm], more people voted for American Idol last week than voted in the Presidential election, THAT is sad. Maybe they should do the election that way, a call/text in, lol.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: jj292

I never understood the liberal arguement that it is bad to ask for ID before being allowed to vote.

I can't write a check anywhere without ID or use a credit card. I can't buy cigarettes or alcohol without ID. I can't drive without ID. Yet they want to let people vote without ID? THAT'S INSANE!

jj292:
I have never heard the "liberal argument" that one should not have to provide ID to vote.  Would you please give us a link to this official liberal position?
thompson

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: jj292

I never understood the liberal arguement that it is bad to ask for ID before being allowed to vote.

I can't write a check anywhere without ID or use a credit card. I can't buy cigarettes or alcohol without ID. I can't drive without ID. Yet they want to let people vote without ID? THAT'S INSANE!

jj292:
I have never heard the "liberal argument" that one should not have to provide ID to vote.  Would you please give us a link to this official liberal position?
thompson

This is true. Democrats feel that voter ID laws disenfranchise voters and make it more difficult for minorities, women, or the poor to vote.

http://democrats.org/a/2006/07/georgia_voter_i.php

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/02/AR2006110201897.html

http://www.votersunite.org/article.asp?id=5071

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/feb/17/voter_id_bill_approved_criticized/?politics

http://www.statesman.com/metrostate/content/gen/ap/TX_XGR_Voter_ID.html

The Dems can make up all the excuses they want. The only reason they dont like these laws is because it will bar illegal votes from being cast. And the Dems know most of those votes are for Democrat candidates.

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ORIGINAL: jj292

I never understood the liberal arguement that it is bad to ask for ID before being allowed to vote.

I can't write a check anywhere without ID or use a credit card. I can't buy cigarettes or alcohol without ID. I can't drive without ID. Yet they want to let people vote without ID? THAT'S INSANE!

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ORIGINAL: jj292

I never understood the liberal arguement that it is bad to ask for ID before being allowed to vote.

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ORIGINAL: slaverosebeauty

Can we FINALLY say that we have an illegal immigrant problem? or that thigns have gone to hell in a handbasket, maybe THAT is why it keeps getting hotter. Its not global warming, its hell.

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ORIGINAL: selfbnd411

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ORIGINAL: jj292

I never understood the liberal arguement that it is bad to ask for ID before being allowed to vote.

I can't write a check anywhere without ID or use a credit card. I can't buy cigarettes or alcohol without ID. I can't drive without ID. Yet they want to let people vote without ID? THAT'S INSANE!

The reason Republicans want government officials checking IDs is to discourage minorities from voting.  There have been instances in California in which the Republican Party hired uniformed "security guards" to "protect" polling sites.

Survey after survey has shown that white people tend not to fear government officials.  They can't understand that for most of America's history, the skulls of minorities have been on the business end of many a policeman's baton. 

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

In New York, I've never seen a cop in a polling place.

And we don't show ID... Last time anyone asked, I gave 'em a choice... ACLU or NRA?

But hey, New York has people who can compare the signature of the voter to his signature in the polling-book.

I guess people in other states have trouble with that simple task?

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

General reply -
 
From what you folks are saying here and according to the link quoted below,
the requirements at the polling places differ from state to state. 
Anyone know if there are identification requirement differences for differing counties
and cities?
 
I registered to vote at age 18.  When I lived with my parents the local polling place was usually a hotel lobby. 
Where I live now it is a church auditorium near the Cal Poly campus.
I have never seen a police officer or security guard around either location. 
We have to verify our home address and sign our names.  For some reason, I cannot remember if we have to show photo identification or not?  And the people running the poll booth are usually retired folks who are quite pleasant.
 
Your mileage may vary -
 
"Democrats Predict Voter ID Problems"
"Laws May Create Election Day Turmoil"
 By Amy Goldstein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, November 3, 2006; Page A01

" Indiana will have the country's strictest voter identification law in effect on Election Day. The 2005 picture ID law, however, puts it among a dozen states that have tightened requirements lately that voters display some form of identification at the polls. The laws have spawned partisan warring, lawsuits and confusion that election experts predict could influence the outcome of some close elections.

In the Washington area, Virginia requires all voters to show identification, although it does not need to have a picture. Maryland and the District require first-time voters who registered by mail to bring identification, such as a driver's license or utility bill, to the polls.

While the local laws have not been challenged, new voter ID laws nationally are the most widespread, and most bitterly disputed, of several types of voting procedures that states have adopted after the chaotic 2000 presidential election. The procedures include statewide electronic databases of registered voters, which critics allege have in a few states improperly knocked out eligible people. In another procedure, Ohio and Florida -- battleground states that have produced recent contested elections -- have placed tighter reins on groups that work to register new voters. "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/02/AR2006110201897.html

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

In New York, I've never seen a cop in a polling place.

And we don't show ID... Last time anyone asked, I gave 'em a choice... ACLU or NRA?

But hey, New York has people who can compare the signature of the voter to his signature in the polling-book.

I guess people in other states have trouble with that simple task?

Fargle, that's very surprising.

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

In New York, I've never seen a cop in a polling place.

And we don't show ID... Last time anyone asked, I gave 'em a choice... ACLU or NRA?

But hey, New York has people who can compare the signature of the voter to his signature in the polling-book.

I guess people in other states have trouble with that simple task?

Fargle, that's very surprising.

Why? Aren't your poll workers smart enough to compare 2 signatures? Maybe your state needs a law mandating basic literacy for poll workers instead?

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Fargle, that answer doesn't make sense.
A driver's lisense is much easier.

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Fargle, that answer doesn't make sense.
A driver's lisense is much easier.

There is no law compelling any Free Person to carry identification.

What part of:

1. When you register your signature is recorded in the polling book.

2. When you go vote, you countersign your recorded signature ( Like a money order )

3. Poll worker compares both signatures and establishes your identity.

isn't totally clear?

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Odd that you never saw any Police Officers at the polls.
I think Massachusetts "requires" Police at the polling places.
They "require" them at all road construction sites whereas other states use "Flagmen." I think Massachusetts is the only state that does that.
And if you have a wedding or any other type of gathering with over a certain number of people present you are "required" to have a Police "detail" there! And the Police enforce it because "detail pay" is about $32 an hour for the off-duty Officers who do those details.
So, they're not going to let that law be overturned! $

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Fargle, that answer doesn't make sense.
A driver's lisense is much easier.

There is no law compelling any Free Person to carry identification.

What part of:

1. When you register your signature is recorAgaided in the polling book.

2. When you go vote, you countersign your recorded signature ( Like a money order )

3. Poll worker compares both signatures and establishes your identity.

isn't totally clear?

No, you don't have to carry an i.d. but is it really that inconvenient to carry your lisense inside with you when you vote from yor car?
I keep mine in my wallet on my person.
Again, you're splitting hairs here.
I mean what's the big deal? It's really not even worth arguing about.

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

That is a very unusual idea to me, Popeye. 
Requiring police officers at polling places and road constuction? 
Cal Trans has their own people direct traffic on the highways and
city workers do the same inside the municipal boundaries. 
And at weddings with large amounts of people too? 
The police in Massachusetts much have a great union!

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Odd that you never saw any Police Officers at the polls.
I think Massachusetts "requires" Police at the polling places.
They "require" them at all road construction sites whereas other states use "Flagmen." I think Massachusetts is the only state that does that.
And if you have a wedding or any other type of gathering with over a certain number of people present you are "required" to have a Police "detail" there! And the Police enforce it because "detail pay" is about $32 an hour for the off-duty Officers who do those details.
So, they're not going to let that law be overturned! $