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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/19/2007 4:00:23 PM   
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Another thing in the UK is women are very touchy feely with each other. We hug and kiss our friends and sleep naked in the same beds without it ever being anything sexual.
Is it similar in the US?


Sure!
If you're some sick, twisted lesbian that is....

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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/19/2007 4:14:21 PM   
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Another thing in the UK is women are very touchy feely with each other. We hug and kiss our friends and sleep naked in the same beds without it ever being anything sexual.
Is it similar in the US?


Sure!
If you're some sick, twisted lesbian that is....


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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/19/2007 4:19:18 PM   
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The more secure one is in ones sexuality, the more likely one is to know themselves.  Just fanatasizing about woman doesn't make you bisexual.  Acting on those fantasies, in curious exploration doesn't either.  Not until you embrace the idea does it tend to become part of who you might be.

There is no such thing as completely straight, or completely gay.  Just the world is not black and white, it is shades of gray.


Freud used the term "polymorphously perverse" to describe human sexuality.  People drift back and forth and homosexuality, bisexuality, heterosexuality, etc., are not absolute incremental settings.  The lines are blurred and non-existent.  For most of my life, I have not had any interest in having sex with a man, but I dont make the infinitive statement that I will never have any interest in having sex with a man.  It might be the case that I do not have any sexual interest in it.  However, it might also be that I have never met the man I wanted to sleep with in the same sense that I have never met the Dominant I would be able to submit to.

In my mind this is really the reason people are so threatened by gay / straight / whatever; they have doubts about their own sexuality coming from the dangerous and dark corners of their consciousness.

His term was co-opted by second wave Feminists.  The rationale behind that concept makes a lot more sense than the Either / Or dichotomy espoused by the ignorant and fearful.

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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/19/2007 4:22:20 PM   
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the whole frekin "good girls don't and cross their legs and sit up straight"....

Lol, well *my* good girl still better "cross her legs and sit up striaght" etc when with me....  Her "default setting" is still lady *first* 
 
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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/19/2007 4:27:41 PM   
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You have the right to feel any fucking way you want, but since y'er posting her about it, I say, "Fuck it, fuck it, just fuck it."


LMAO....
thank you, thank you, and thank you

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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/19/2007 4:30:06 PM   
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So you have never thought of having a female as a primamry even through your experiences....


No never. I love women and I love having female subs but I would never set up home and have a full time relationship with one for the simple reason that when it comes down to it I prefer men.


I think that is where I am too...while I want to explore this further...I am not sure I could have a significant other who was female...but then again...1 year ago I never fathomed even being with a woman...
I love this journey.....

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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/19/2007 5:20:39 PM   
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i'm straight as a nail too. though i can write hot female on female story, the thought of being with a woman in reality doesn't turn me on.  i had formers who tried their best to force me into being bi despite my constant protests. my advice - if you're interested in trying your bi-side, go for it but i wouldn't worry too much about dreaming being with other women ...i do too sometimes and i'm still straight.

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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/19/2007 5:29:57 PM   
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I have never been with a man but there is a certain type who I find an odd attraction to.  They must be fairly trim, not thin nor musclebound and real, the least bit of affectation kills it.   Sam Elliot comes to mind.  I rarely feel it but it is there on occasion.  As always I look inward to see what and where it comes from.  While I couldn't kiss another man, or at least can't imagine it, having sex with them or pitching as they say holds some small appeal, recieving much less so.  I think it is more a willingness to consider sex rather than an attraction or need.

That said, a certain someone I know gets quite excited with the thought of watching another man suck my cock but being a sadist I keep thinking I would do it in front of her but blindfold her so she can hear but can't see.  Only problem is she begs so very well and takes such good care of me that I not only just might actually do this, I would at one point want to reward her with the sight of another man's mouth sliding down over my cock.


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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/19/2007 5:36:45 PM   
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Here in the UK it seems very acceptable to be a bi female and Im not just talking on the scene. Is that not the case in the US?
Another thing in the UK is women are very touchy feely with each other. We hug and kiss our friends and sleep naked in the same beds without it ever being anything sexual.
Is it similar in the US?

All Depends upon what part of the US it is.. we're a crazy mixed up country...

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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/19/2007 5:59:43 PM   
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To the OP:

Your title, "straight as a nail" made me chuckle. It brought to mind my carpentry skills (eh, the lack of them, that is).

I've never hammered a nail that came back out ... ahem ... straight.

It is very true, but all euphemisms happily accepted.

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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/19/2007 6:04:42 PM   
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Go for it then! I thought i was loosing my mind when i started having those fantasies, but trust me it was well worth exploring. It is a complete joy for me to make a woman cum, and yes the feel of a woman is a beautiful thing. In exploring though, that it will always just be something i enjoy in my kink and not in a long term relationship.

Oh and the dream thing usually is a sign of accepting your own sexuallity, but if your fanticising about....it could be your sub-conscience processing this new exciting idea.

Your just state away...LOL.

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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/19/2007 7:09:40 PM   
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That's pretty much where my head is right now...while I think a females anatomy is beautiful...I am more sexually attracted to a man's....
So you have never thought of having a female as a primamry even through your experiences....



When I was in college, I finally acquiesced to the desires of my on again, off again boyfriend (who was the one who introduced me to BDSM) for a threesome
I was out with my friends, and knowing he was in his apt with his new girlfriend. I had about 3 or 4 shots of vodka, went over and knocked on the door. When he answered, he saw the look in my eyes and just knew.
He was really good about it. He talked to us both, making sure we were both certain we wanted this and was very careful to sort of keep her and I on "equal footing".
It was really hot (as a matter of fact, the three of us did it many more times )..
She and I used to joke that we were going to eventually cut him out of the picture but the thought held no appeal to me.
The truth is, the reason it was so hot was what it did for Him.. 20 years later I still get a jolt when I picture the look on his face the first time we kissed and the first time she went down on me.
Fast forward 9 years ago when I was pregnant (second trimester, yanno?). I didn't crave pickles and ice cream, I craved pussy.. I would constantly mastrubate, watch porn and wait for that close up pussy shot just to see her engorged clit. All I could do was imagine it was me circling it with my tongue and sucking it between my teeth and it would make me cum almost every time.
Add that to the fact that my husband has always loved big giant bouncy breasts, he turned me into a "tit-girl".
I feel as you do, I fantasize now ALOT about women (esp. submissives) but not sure if the fantasy will translate well into reality.
Time will tell I suppose.
I do know that I could never, ever, develop a preference for women over men.

So hell yes you should explore it as much as your heart desires.. The worst that could happen would be "oh. no. This is NOT for me". BFD, right?



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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/20/2007 1:45:36 AM   
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That said, a certain someone I know gets quite excited with the thought of watching another man suck my cock but being a sadist I keep thinking I would do it in front of her but blindfold her so she can hear but can't see.  Only problem is she begs so very well and takes such good care of me that I not only just might actually do this, I would at one point want to reward her with the sight of another man's mouth sliding down over my cock.




If I had to state my biggest turn on it would be man on man!
It has to be in a dominant submissive way with the Dom being extremely rough on the guy. Just makes me want to join in lol. I sometimes see it happen in clubs and when I do I am the nearest voyeur.
I have been trying to persuade my man for ages to do this because I know he would be particularly rough and although he never says never, I somehow doubt this one will come off.

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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/20/2007 3:54:40 AM   
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I myself, am not bisexual.  Though, on occation a very special woman comes along whom i develope a big crush on.  I've never been with another woman, and never tried to act on these crushes in the past which i'm starting to regret as i get a little older.  I've only met about 5 women in my life who i could have fallen in love with and gone to bed with, outta thousands. 

I dont think you should feel guilty about your thoughts and feelings for this woman, maybe you're like me and she's just that kind of special person?

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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/20/2007 4:19:55 AM   
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Fast reply:

I have had only one experience with a woman but I did love it.  When I started fantasizing about it, I knew that eventually I would have to try it.  I enjoyed it very much and have been looking to try again soon.  It never hurts (not speaking of pain here) to try something new...you can always say "ok, I tryed it and it isn't for me...next."  Good luck with exploring your feelings and fantasies.

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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/20/2007 7:31:29 AM   
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I have always considered myself straight...never had any gay tendencies...I've had close friends even relatives who are....been to numerous nightclubs...after several drinks once....dear god ....I even sang Karoke  "I touch myself" in a gay club...
But (always a but) lately ... woman have been in my fantasies and in 2 occasions dreams....I equate it to becoming more aware of my own sexuality....and allowing me to really get at the core of "what the F turns me on"....
I was hoping that others who have experienced these feelings would possibly share them...hoping to find answers...insight....and maybe even what to expect in my new found liberation....


I have had fantasies about women off and on throughout my life. At one time it was because it was a taboo in my mind. My ex husband and I talked often of creating a swinging experience with another female and I became aroused by it because of his reaction to that idea.

At this point I am thinking about it again, and I had put this as a soft limit when my Daddy and I began seeing each other. I am increasingly aroused by the idea that he would be aroused by it.

I am not romantically attracted to women. I never think about my romantic feelings for another women, and to me that is what makes me hetrosexual.

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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/20/2007 9:34:15 AM   
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Yep, yep, yep, guys like two women with them and want to watch them play around with each other. Some women get past the hurdle of being with another woman and start wanting it without the guy being there. What's new?

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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/20/2007 9:56:09 AM   
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Simply reminded of this quote, "It takes a man very secure in his heterosexuality to have sex with another man."

Look at girls, do you feel attracted to them?  Nothing wrong with it (cries as another girl goes girl). But it doesn't necessarily make you a lesbian.

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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/20/2007 10:41:30 AM   
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Apparently only 10% of people are 100% heterosexual and only another 10% are 100% homosexual and the rest are somewhere in between. We're talking here orientation, something fluid, not fixed, which forms our habits.

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RE: Straight as a Nail - 5/20/2007 11:31:32 AM   
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I must be part of the 10%, I adore women and I love looking at them.
I have been approached many times, but I say thanks but no thanks.
So I have to disagree with those that say we all have bisexual dreams.
I know many people that do not dream or ever want to be sexually involved
with the same sex.
But, if you want to try it, go for it!

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