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Eruditegirl -> Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 2:35:38 PM)

I have always considered myself straight...never had any gay tendencies...I've had close friends even relatives who are....been to numerous nightclubs...after several drinks once....dear god ....I even sang Karoke  "I touch myself" in a gay club...
But (always a but) lately ... woman have been in my fantasies and in 2 occasions dreams....I equate it to becoming more aware of my own sexuality....and allowing me to really get at the core of "what the F turns me on"....
I was hoping that others who have experienced these feelings would possibly share them...hoping to find answers...insight....and maybe even what to expect in my new found liberation....




SanDieganMichael -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 2:39:37 PM)

The more secure one is in ones sexuality, the more likely one is to know themselves.  Just fanatasizing about woman doesn't make you bisexual.  Acting on those fantasies, in curious exploration doesn't either.  Not until you embrace the idea does it tend to become part of who you might be.

There is no such thing as completely straight, or completely gay.  Just the world is not black and white, it is shades of gray.




Copulo -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 2:46:30 PM)

Hi Eruditegirl, all I can say is go with it. It really doesn’t matter if you do or you don’t but if you ever feel the need to explore then go with the flow.

I first went with a female when I was 19 and that was after too many drinks and a great night. I was kind of shocked at myself in the cold light of day and even worried that I may be turning lesbian!!!

I now know that I could never have a female as my primary partner but I still enjoy the huge contrast of a mans skin against me or a womans.

What does really get to me though and Im talking club environment, is the amount of bi curious women that will give me the come on because they know Im bi. The amount of women that have walked up and tried to snog or grope me is ridiculous. I often tell people that although Im bi I wont let just anyone lick my pussy!




eyesopened -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 2:51:05 PM)

i always considered myself straight.  But there were two occassions when another female was there and there was encouragement from the guys to 'go for it' so i did.  And i'm very glad i tried it twice and not just one time because now i absolutely know for a fact that i am as straight as a nail..*laughs*




Faramir -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 3:12:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Eruditegirl
But (always a but) lately ... woman have been in my fantasies and in 2 occasions dreams....I equate it to becoming more aware of my own sexuality....and allowing me to really get at the core of "what the F turns me on"....
I was hoping that others who have experienced these feelings would possibly share them...hoping to find answers...insight....and maybe even what to expect in my new found liberation....


You're just going to have the face the fact that you are actually a lesbian, doomed to a life of twisted perversion and sick unnaturalness.

You should most likely film your future, disgusting Lesbian activities and post them here.  As a warning.  To others.  You know, so they don't stop being straight.




Eruditegirl -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 3:27:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Faramir



You're just going to have the face the fact that you are actually a lesbian, doomed to a life of twisted perversion and sick unnaturalness.

You should most likely film your future, disgusting Lesbian activities and post them here.  As a warning.  To others.  You know, so they don't stop being straight.


Good Idea....well  I guess I will need a film editor....hmmm....
Please send all employment applications to Eruditegirl in care of collarme.com.....lol




Eruditegirl -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 3:28:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SanDieganMichael

The more secure one is in ones sexuality, the more likely one is to know themselves.  Just fanatasizing about woman doesn't make you bisexual.  Acting on those fantasies, in curious exploration doesn't either.  Not until you embrace the idea does it tend to become part of who you might be.

There is no such thing as completely straight, or completely gay.  Just the world is not black and white, it is shades of gray.


Off topic.....I love San Diego...just got back from vacation...




SimplyMichael -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 3:29:32 PM)

I could care less about the editor position...I think Director suits me quite a bit better!




Focus50 -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 3:30:22 PM)

Using my own self as a guide (10 yrs older than you), I've always considered myself straight and nothing has changed - the male locker rooms still do zilch for me - ick!!!  lol  Same in the dreams and fantasies department....
 
If you find yourself now drawn in a bi or gay direction, perhaps your original assessment of your sexuality was in error; maybe you were even conforming to society's acceptable expectations of a few decades ago...?  My only later "discovery" was lifestyle related, that I need a submissive partner to fulfill my needs and fantasies etc.  And still a male sub does *nothing* for me!  lol
 
When the theory dosn't concur with the available evidence, it's time to revisit the theory (of being straight).
 
Focus.




Eruditegirl -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 3:32:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Copulo

Hi Eruditegirl, all I can say is go with it. It really doesn’t matter if you do or you don’t but if you ever feel the need to explore then go with the flow.

I first went with a female when I was 19 and that was after too many drinks and a great night. I was kind of shocked at myself in the cold light of day and even worried that I may be turning lesbian!!!

I now know that I could never have a female as my primary partner but I still enjoy the huge contrast of a mans skin against me or a womans.

What does really get to me though and Im talking club environment, is the amount of bi curious women that will give me the come on because they know Im bi. The amount of women that have walked up and tried to snog or grope me is ridiculous. I often tell people that although Im bi I wont let just anyone lick my pussy!

 
That's pretty much where my head is right now...while I think a females anatomy is beautiful...I am more sexually attracted to a man's....
So you have never thought of having a female as a primamry even through your experiences....




DianeB269 -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 3:33:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Eruditegirl

I have always considered myself straight...never had any gay tendencies...I've had close friends even relatives who are....been to numerous nightclubs...after several drinks once....dear god ....I even sang Karoke  "I touch myself" in a gay club...
But (always a but) lately ... woman have been in my fantasies and in 2 occasions dreams....I equate it to becoming more aware of my own sexuality....and allowing me to really get at the core of "what the F turns me on"....
I was hoping that others who have experienced these feelings would possibly share them...hoping to find answers...insight....and maybe even what to expect in my new found liberation....



I have had the same feelings and gave it a try a few times. It was fun but, I can do without
it.


Diane




Eruditegirl -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 3:34:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

I could care less about the editor position...I think Director suits me quite a bit better!


Please forward your application for Director and I will get back to you in 5 working days....lol...




Viridana -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 3:37:05 PM)

Fast reply

Fantasy and reality isn't the same thing. I've fantasized before about bi experiences and that's all good. But I have zero interest in bringing those fantasies to real life. I even find the thought of doing so a bit icky to be hones. So for me, fantasizing about bisexuality doesn't make you bisexual. However if you do feel like you want to give it a try then go for it.




Faramir -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 3:37:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Focus50
Using my own self as a guide (10 yrs older than you), I've always considered myself straight and nothing has changed - the male locker rooms still do zilch for me - ick!!!  lol  Same in the dreams and fantasies department....
 


"The Lady doth protest too much, methinks." 
      -Hamlet, Act III, Scene 2




Eruditegirl -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 3:38:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Focus50


 maybe you were even conforming to society's acceptable expectations of a few decades ago...? 


That is a whole other posts for me...along with my discoveries I have realized I have lived my life by everyone elses dillusional ideas....the whole frekin "good girls don't and cross their legs and sit up straight"....




Eruditegirl -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 3:40:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Viridana

Fast reply

Fantasy and reality isn't the same thing. I've fantasized before about bi experiences and that's all good. But I have zero interest in bringing those fantasies to real life. I even find the thought of doing so a bit icky to be hones. So for me, fantasizing about bisexuality doesn't make you bisexual. However if you do feel like you want to give it a try then go for it.



It may have started out as just a fantasy for my partner at the time...but now it has changed....I really want to explore this side of me....




Faramir -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 3:48:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Eruditegirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

I could care less about the editor position...I think Director suits me quite a bit better!


Please forward your application for Director and I will get back to you in 5 working days....lol...


Actually I have a script I've been working on....

Seriously, I don't think this is a big deal.  If girls are turning you on a bit, ok, great.  If that is all it is, well nothing's wrong with some fantasies.  And if you want to try out some of them, so what?

The one thing most of us have in common here (besides the creepy Star Trek/Renfaire connection) is that we are per-vertere, "turned about." We're bent.  So at this point, who the fuck cares?

I slap the shit out of girls and make them tearfully call me Daddy and thank me after I rape their asses and mouths.  Shit, at this point, who the fuck cares about sexual homodoxy?  If tommorow I started grooving on dudes, I don't think it would stress me out.  In queer theory, as a politico-literary lens, we are all, in some way, queer.  The idea of a hegemonic orthodoxy including a True, verifiable center, with only fringe "queers" transgressing, is exploded.  In that sense, I see myself as both hetero-sexual and queer at the same time.

You have the right to feel any fucking way you want, but since y'er posting her about it, I say, "Fuck it, fuck it, just fuck it."




DianeB269 -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 3:51:46 PM)


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It may have started out as just a fantasy for my partner at the time...but now it has changed....I really want to explore this side of me....
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I say, try it at least 2 times with 2 different women.


Diane




Copulo -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 3:53:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Eruditegirl

So you have never thought of having a female as a primamry even through your experiences....


No never. I love women and I love having female subs but I would never set up home and have a full time relationship with one for the simple reason that when it comes down to it I prefer men.




Copulo -> RE: Straight as a Nail (5/19/2007 3:57:03 PM)

Here in the UK it seems very acceptable to be a bi female and Im not just talking on the scene. Is that not the case in the US?
Another thing in the UK is women are very touchy feely with each other. We hug and kiss our friends and sleep naked in the same beds without it ever being anything sexual.
Is it similar in the US?




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