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Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 in U.S. - 5/18/2007 11:22:46 AM   
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Senator Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA) "Out of deference to the critics, I want to comment on … what the bill will not do. First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same … Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset … Contrary to the charges in some quarters, S.500 will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and economically deprived nations of Africa and Asia. In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think. Thirdly, the bill will not permit the entry of subversive persons, criminals, illiterates, or those with contagious disease or serious mental illness. As I noted a moment ago, no immigrant visa will be issued to a person who is likely to become a public charge … the charges I have mentioned are highly emotional, irrational, and with little foundation in fact. They are out of line with the obligations of responsible citizenship. They breed hate of our heritage."(Senate Part 1, Book 1, pp. 1-3)
So Much for Promises - Quotes Re 1965 Immigration Act

Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 in U.S.
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Between the rising minority population -- particularly of Latinos of any race -- and the low median age of Latinos, a new kind of generation gap is arising across the country, experts said Wednesday: Most people over 60 are non-Hispanic whites, and most under 40 are not...

Some demographers suspect the new generation gap will heighten the nation's struggle to provide adequate social services and public education. "The biggest problems will be related to language and culture," said Andrew Scharlach, a professor of aging at UC Berkeley. "The difference may make it hard for nonwhite elders to take advantage of services for English-speaking white elders. There may also be problems in caretaking of white seniors by nonwhite providers."  


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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 11:27:19 AM   
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Through “chain migration” (more delicately referred to by the politically correct as “family reunification”), senior citizens or disabled individuals can apply for Supplement Security Income (S.S.I.) immediately upon their arrival.

Joe Guzzardi, Is Bemused By Hispanic Immigrants’ Sense Of Entitlement

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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 11:29:20 AM   
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"This Bill will give Amnesty to between 1.1 and 1.3 million illegal aliens.
We will secure the border henceforth.
We will never bring up an Amnesty Bill again."

                Ted Kennedy 1986


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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 11:48:27 AM   
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Popeye that was one I didn't know about, he has been a real liar all these years. No wonder this country is down the tubes.
Remember MARY JO KOPECHNE? Teddy got away with that and they re-elected him then and they do it now.

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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 12:03:10 PM   
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Through “chain migration” (more delicately referred to by the politically correct as “family reunification”), senior citizens or disabled individuals can apply for Supplement Security Income (S.S.I.) immediately upon their arrival.

Joe Guzzardi, Is Bemused By Hispanic Immigrants’ Sense Of Entitlement



Correct, we are becommng a luxury rest home for the second and third worlds and they expect U.S. Taxpayers to pay the bills.
I simply *do not want to pay anymore* and if someone is in my country illegally I want them out!
People are getting *PISSED* about this!
Anyone who votes for any of this pos AMNESTY Bill in Washington needs  to be thrown out of office.
And from what I hear on the News today *The People* are calling and tieing up phone lines like never before!
I've tried 3 times today to call Sen, Lindsey Graham's office and I still can't get through!
Wait till next week!
Even the Michigan state GOP website was down yesterday with so many e-mails comming in it couldn't handle them.
They ignore the American People at their own peril!

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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 12:35:01 PM   
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Senator Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA) "Out of deference to the critics, I want to comment on … what the bill will not do. First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same … Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset … Contrary to the charges in some quarters, S.500 will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and economically deprived nations of Africa and Asia. In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think. Thirdly, the bill will not permit the entry of subversive persons, criminals, illiterates, or those with contagious disease or serious mental illness. As I noted a moment ago, no immigrant visa will be issued to a person who is likely to become a public charge … the charges I have mentioned are highly emotional, irrational, and with little foundation in fact. They are out of line with the obligations of responsible citizenship. They breed hate of our heritage."(Senate Part 1, Book 1, pp. 1-3)
So Much for Promises - Quotes Re 1965 Immigration Act

Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 in U.S.
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Between the rising minority population -- particularly of Latinos of any race -- and the low median age of Latinos, a new kind of generation gap is arising across the country, experts said Wednesday: Most people over 60 are non-Hispanic whites, and most under 40 are not...

Some demographers suspect the new generation gap will heighten the nation's struggle to provide adequate social services and public education. "The biggest problems will be related to language and culture," said Andrew Scharlach, a professor of aging at UC Berkeley. "The difference may make it hard for nonwhite elders to take advantage of services for English-speaking white elders. There may also be problems in caretaking of white seniors by nonwhite providers."  





i dun know You, so i will not ascribe any motive to You, but really, who cares about the changing complextion of O/our country apart from certain hate mongers?  That change will occur is a certainty; that whites will cease to be a majority in the US (after a great deal of time) is a certainty.  So what?
 
i visited Miami/Dade County many times on business.  80% of the population is non-white, with Cubans leading the pack.  i found  every English speaking person who resided there had mastered at least a smattering of Spanish, and vis versa.
 
i have had and continue to have many F/friends who are P/pl of color, and IMO the country would be a much better place if there were many others just like T/them.

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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 3:27:23 PM   
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but really, who cares about the changing complextion of O/our country apart from certain hate mongers?  That change will occur is a certainty; that whites will cease to be a majority in the US (after a great deal of time) is a certainty.  So what? 
 


Perzackly....

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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 3:49:32 PM   
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Pinksugar, unless they're Black, most Cubans are Caucaision.

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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 4:14:20 PM   
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Popeye that was one I didn't know about, he has been a real liar all these years. No wonder this country is down the tubes. Remember MARY JO KOPECHNE? Teddy got away with that and they re-elected him then and they do it now.

 
Oh come on now.... cut  Teddy a break he was young, impulsive and he didn't know he should have been driving a Volkswagen.
 

 
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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 5:10:34 PM   
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Pinksugar, unless they're Black, most Cubans are Caucaision.


Well, learn s'thing new every day.  The Cuban P/pl i knew were extremely proud of being Cuban and idenitified as Hispanics.  Just goes to show Y/you how slippery and meaningless racial idenities are becoming. 

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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 5:27:44 PM   
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Pinksugar, unless they're Black, most Cubans are Caucaision.


popeye1250:
Once again you express loudly and clearly that you have no concept what constitutes race...There is but one race on this planet and it is the human race.  BTW caucasian is how you spell that word.
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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 8:32:09 PM   
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Popeye that was one I didn't know about, he has been a real liar all these years. No wonder this country is down the tubes. Remember MARY JO KOPECHNE? Teddy got away with that and they re-elected him then and they do it now.

 
Oh come on now.... cut  Teddy a break he was young, impulsive and he didn't know he should have been driving a Volkswagen.
 

 
Sir Magic


Sir Magic, LOL!
Yeah, maybe Fat Ted got "a bad ice cube."
One time in a speech he actually said; "Well, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it."
"I ah,...ah,...ah,...think that we..ah, ah."
They don't call him "The Wizzard of Ahs" for nothing!

Wasn't he driving an Oldsmobile "Delmont"?

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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 9:03:45 PM   
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Lest i remind you all that the forefathers of this country viewed this place as an experiment subject to and respondant to change. America is already on its second constitution (they decided to make the second draft somewhat flexible via overwhelming impart of three branches). This country was founded by people that had a die-hard conviction to dissention and a fervent realization in growth and integration of acceptance to enforce advancement of a society without a lord supreme.

Semper gumby.

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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 9:09:32 PM   
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Isn't a major reason for concern if we allow the illegals to become citizens, there is an exorbinant increase in social costs for Medicare, and Medicaid.  That is what i have seen on the news.  That should be a major concern as many feel it will be bankrupt without this.

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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 9:19:28 PM   
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Isn't a major reason for concern if we allow the illegals to become citizens, there is an exorbinant increase in social costs for Medicare, and Medicaid.  That is what i have seen on the news.  That should be a major concern as many feel it will be bankrupt without this.

minnetar






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Perhaps what we have here is a false premise.  First we hear that the illegals are taking all the low paying jobs.  Which means that uneducated, untalented and unskilled citizens can't get a low wage job.  This is followed up by the charge that they (the illegals) will all be on welfare of some sort.  How can it be both?
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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 9:21:43 PM   
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thompson,
i think their latest concern is adding them to Medicare and to retirement programs.  i saw some astronimical figure it would add to these programs if they were be allowed to be seen as citizens.  i hope i worded that correctly and wasn't rude.

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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 9:30:57 PM   
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thompson,
i think their latest concern is adding them to Medicare and to retirement programs.  i saw some astronimical figure it would add to these programs if they were be allowed to be seen as citizens.  i hope i worded that correctly and wasn't rude.

minnetar


minnetar:
I have never noticed rudeness in any of your posts.
If they become citizens wouldn't they pay taxes like everyone else and thus fund the Medicare?  As for the pensions that would seem to me to be in the same area.  They work and pay into the fund and draw out from it as anyone else does on retirement.  
All I see is thinly disguised bigotry in all the scare rhetoric that is being pimped about by the different interest groups.
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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 9:32:51 PM   
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thompson,
i think their latest concern is adding them to Medicare and to retirement programs.  i saw some astronimical figure it would add to these programs if they were be allowed to be seen as citizens.  i hope i worded that correctly and wasn't rude.

minnetar


minnetar:
I have never noticed rudeness in any of your posts.
If they become citizens wouldn't they pay taxes like everyone else and thus fund the Medicare?  As for the pensions that would seem to me to be in the same area.  They work and pay into the fund and draw out from it as anyone else does on retirement.  
All I see is thinly disguised bigotry in all the scare rhetoric that is being pimped about by the different interest groups.
thompson

lmao since social security payments are based on payments put in.  Excellent response.  Must be the medicare program then.

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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 9:44:59 PM   
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thompson,
i think their latest concern is adding them to Medicare and to retirement programs.  i saw some astronimical figure it would add to these programs if they were be allowed to be seen as citizens.  i hope i worded that correctly and wasn't rude.

minnetar


minnetar:
I have never noticed rudeness in any of your posts.
If they become citizens wouldn't they pay taxes like everyone else and thus fund the Medicare?  As for the pensions that would seem to me to be in the same area.  They work and pay into the fund and draw out from it as anyone else does on retirement.  
All I see is thinly disguised bigotry in all the scare rhetoric that is being pimped about by the different interest groups.
thompson

lmao since social security payments are based on payments put in.  Excellent response.  Must be the Medicare program then.

minnetar


minnetar:
Medicare is funded through tax dollars so it is just a function of those who use it paying for it.  My understanding is that Medicare is for the economically challenged.  If that is the case then it seems a stretch to assume that all of the immigrants who come here will be economically challenged  from cradle to grave.  After all the premise is that they are coming here to gain economic largess.  It is only the bigots who rant on about how the immigrants will suck the system dry. 

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RE: Minority population grows to 100 million -- 1 of 3 ... - 5/18/2007 9:53:45 PM   
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i think anyone can use medicare based on their age or disability if they are a citizen. 

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