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RE: Proposed Immigration Reform Bill-May 17, 2007 - 5/18/2007 12:01:30 AM   
popeye1250


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Sinergy, it's more like a Kleptocracy by Bush and his big business buddies.
I mean how much money is enough for those people?
It's almost as though we're living in the days of the "Robber Barons" before Teddy Roosevelt brought them down a few notches.

The GOP is getting shithammered with calls and e-mails about this!
The Michigan GOP site is "offline" lol!

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RE: Proposed Immigration Reform Bill-May 17, 2007 - 5/18/2007 1:14:00 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Sinergy, it's more like a Kleptocracy by Bush and his big business buddies.
I mean how much money is enough for those people?
It's almost as though we're living in the days of the "Robber Barons" before Teddy Roosevelt brought them down a few notches.


Right now our government is being ran and influenced by elitists. These people not only have a lust for wealth and power but they develop a mentality that allows them to believe fully that they are better and more intelligent than the common man or the average voter.

And this explains a lot of why they are basically ignoring the population on a wide range of issues. They think that they know better. Even though they know their approval rating is in the toilet, they still truely believe they are doing the right things. And this very much describes practically the entire Senate today. None of these people seem to have any connection with the average American. And especially the White House doesnt seem to have a clue what is going on throughout the country. I mean this administration at times seems to be completely clueless.

Its very dangerous, but America has survived periods of this over the years. It usually results in an ideological shift when massive numbers of public officials are voted out of office. I think in 2006 you started to see this type of shift starting to occur. But that wasnt the biggie. I think 2008 may be the wake-up call. I think the GOP is going to take a monsterous hit especially if this immigration thing is pushed down everyone's throat. The Dems will probably have their purge in 2010 and 2012 and by then we should have the attic cleaned out.

I also think that thanks to communication advances, politicians are not able to get away with things that they were once able to. People are more educated and intelligent these days as well. So it has become harder to play politics. Abraham Lincoln for example would campaign in slave states and make speeches that were pro-slavery. Yet when he went to free states, he would be anti-slavery. The press moved so slow back in those days that few people were able to figure out what he was doing. Politicians today can't pull that smokescreen.

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RE: Proposed Immigration Reform Bill-May 17, 2007 - 5/18/2007 4:15:32 AM   
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selfbnd, we are not as easily manipulated as you think.
It is a covert amnesty bill, we all know it.

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RE: Proposed Immigration Reform Bill-May 17, 2007 - 5/18/2007 3:52:10 PM   
MzMia


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quote:

ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Sinergy, it's more like a Kleptocracy by Bush and his big business buddies.
I mean how much money is enough for those people?
It's almost as though we're living in the days of the "Robber Barons" before Teddy Roosevelt brought them down a few notches.


Right now our government is being ran and influenced by elitists. These people not only have a lust for wealth and power but they develop a mentality that allows them to believe fully that they are better and more intelligent than the common man or the average voter.

And this explains a lot of why they are basically ignoring the population on a wide range of issues. They think that they know better. Even though they know their approval rating is in the toilet, they still truely believe they are doing the right things. And this very much describes practically the entire Senate today. None of these people seem to have any connection with the average American. And especially the White House doesnt seem to have a clue what is going on throughout the country. I mean this administration at times seems to be completely clueless.

Its very dangerous, but America has survived periods of this over the years. It usually results in an ideological shift when massive numbers of public officials are voted out of office. I think in 2006 you started to see this type of shift starting to occur. But that wasnt the biggie. I think 2008 may be the wake-up call. I think the GOP is going to take a monsterous hit especially if this immigration thing is pushed down everyone's throat. The Dems will probably have their purge in 2010 and 2012 and by then we should have the attic cleaned out.

I also think that thanks to communication advances, politicians are not able to get away with things that they were once able to. People are more educated and intelligent these days as well. So it has become harder to play politics. Abraham Lincoln for example would campaign in slave states and make speeches that were pro-slavery. Yet when he went to free states, he would be anti-slavery. The press moved so slow back in those days that few people were able to figure out what he was doing. Politicians today can't pull that smokescreen.


Very well stated, does anyone have any real idea which way this country
is headed?
Does anyone want to take a guess?  I do a lot and the vision for many people

down the road, is not pretty.

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