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Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 6:21:49 AM   
kittinSol


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Status: offline 		The University of Texas is planning on having a 'body farm' in order to study the putrefaction process. All in the name of science. 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6646177.stm

Bon appetit

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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 6:27:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hehe, Cool.

Seriously, if it was cattle cadavers it wouldn't have been an issue at all. We've got to be less uptight about death in this country. For all the concern about 'preserving the sanctity of life', each and every one of them -will- die.

And, yes, I have checked as an organ donor on my driver's license.

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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 6:37:24 AM   
kittinSol


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Status: offline 		See, I have considered donating my body to science once I die but have feared it would end up in a setup like that 'body farm'. Then again, I wouldn't care, I would be dead. But there's something a little undignified about having your remains left to rot in the open just for the sake of having gore hungry students and researchers gawk at them...

brrr :-)

As long as they make the best out of the bits that matter, such as the heart and kidneys (if they're in operational order, of course), I suppose in the grand scheme of things, it's small fry... it's still kind of GROSS though. Yikes rofl.

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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 6:44:24 AM   
Aubre


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Status: offline 		There is one in Tennessee already:

http://web.utk.edu/%7Eanthrop/index.htm
http://www.deathsacre.com/bodyfarm.html

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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 6:52:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		There's something like this featured in the Guinness Book Of Records.

Apparently its used by forensic pathologists etc, to study how bodies decompose in various situations and conditions, to gather data for future autopsies etc.

Sounds like a rotten job to me

E

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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 6:56:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I think it's a rather grave matter, LadyE. Nothing to joke about.



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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 10:16:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jefferson Bass was the 'originator' of the first body farm in Tennessee. He and colleague have written 2 (so far) novels using that as the setting.
Really well written books. 'Carved In Bone' is the first book & they do have continuing characters so I recommend that one first.
He has also written non-fiction books on the subject.

Before he developed the body farm, no one knew how to decide the length of time a body had been dead. He is the one that discovered the time line using maggots & mayflies. He has had studies done using a body in sun that has clothing vs unclothed as well as a huge variety of exposure ratios.
If not for his research & dedication many many crimes would go unsolved.
It may be  'icky' but it is a valuable service.
Plus they really are good books!


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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 10:38:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, considering how few bodies (in this case, nine) en up in a body farm, versus how many people die who have donated their body to science.... it's probably very unlikely your body will end up in one :p

Even so, there still is a lot of gawking at your body after you die, starting with the person who finds you dead, the paramedics, the coroner, the morgue, funeral home, etc. That not considering you migh be exhumed for some reason, or that a thousand years from now archeologists might dig you up to "better understand XX century life".

So, yeah, death is scarry

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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 12:59:04 PM   
kittinSol


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Status: offline 		Thanks cjenny I DO have a morbid streak so I will definitely check them out *drooling*.

Of course, I agree with you that all is good in the name of research... however it is a tad shiver worthy, isn't it.



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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 1:02:47 PM   
kittinSol


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Status: offline 		Not sure death is scary simply because it corrupts what was once living matter... no, what I still find puzzling is that it's truly the end of everything from my personal perspective.

Not scary, just a big mystery...

"I'm not scared of dying; I'd just prefer not be there when it happens." (Woody Allen)

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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 1:11:14 PM   
Tuomas


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Status: offline 		Well, I meant scary in that people will oggle your dead carcass... I work in rescue, so I've hauled around my fair share of dead or near-dead and seen people die. Death doesn't scare me... it's the dying part I don't like

And then there's: "Don't knock on Death's door. Ring the doorbell and run. He hates that."
It kind of sums up my personality

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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 1:15:18 PM   
kittinSol


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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 1:24:51 PM   
Tuomas


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quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol
COOL!

Well, not right away. It takes about 4 hours for a body to cool down...

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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 2:06:24 PM   
kittinSol


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Status: offline 		Tell us more, Tuomas... I'll light the campfire.

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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 2:26:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've heard and read that the existing body farm has more cadavers lined up than they can use at the moment. Apparently plenty of people are willing to donate themselves to the cause.

http://chronicle.com/weekly/v53/i10/10a05601.htm (if you sign up for a free account you find that the article states that the waiting list is at about 900 so far)

Or: http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/forensics/time/2.html

~ There's even a waiting list for people who want to designate the Body Farm as the destination for their remains.

Dr. Murray K. Marks, an associate professor, is the facility's current curator and a specialist in facial reconstruction.  He oversees each new project, many of which are run by graduate students. "Initially there were three to five donations a year," he says, "and now we get about forty.  At any time, we generally receive about twenty-five bodies in the process and they stay there for about a year." ~



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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 2:28:57 PM   
kittinSol


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Status: offline 		Waoh... people are really desperate to be of use, alive or dead, aren't they. I wonder whether one can visit the body farm just to see what it's like and whether it'd be a good final destination.

*calling tour operators now rofl*

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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 2:46:10 PM   
Tuomas


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Status: offline 		Mleh, probably you will be put off by the smell. There really aren't words to describe the smell of rotting human flesh. It's not at all like any other. And buring human flesh is probably worse, although they are both so bad as there really isn't much difference....

I remember having to fish this guy out of the bottom of a river. Apparently he had committed suicide, and was buck-naked. And stiff as a board. (His entire body, not his thingie, perverts. ) There was this kind of green slime all over his body, which I imagine was some kind of algea. Fortunately, he hadn't started to decompose yet, so he smelt like the river. We put him on a board and covered him with a blanket.

A little while later, some one from the police Investigations came to look at the body. He started poking around, and we assumed he knew what he was doing ... untill he pressed down on the corpse's lower abdomen. *rolls eyes* I walked away before the stench rose in the air, but the people around there turned green. It was funny, until the police started to insist that we take the body to the morgue. Apparently, the morgue was unable to dispatch a unit. After haggling for a while, the our Commander agreed to transfer the corpse in the rescue unit's Ambulance -then he left.

When the order to lift the cadaver came, my collegues picked up the body with it's unworldly odor and carried it to the road about a 100 yards away. For some reason, the police stayed by the river bank. Big mistake. I was putting the equipment away, when the rest of the squad jumped in the ambulance without the body, yelling at me to get in fast. They had left the body next to the police car, and then we all disappeared.

Really great guys.

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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 3:28:20 PM   
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See, I have considered donating my body to science once I die but have feared it would end up in a setup like that 'body farm'.

Maybe you'd prefer something like this:

The Anatomical Exhibition of Real Human Bodies

And the gawkers even pay for the priviledge!


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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 3:52:44 PM   
kittinSol


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Status: offline 		That's funny because I went to Gunther von Hagen's very first exhibition in London. His 'plastination' method's most fascinating. I have to say the show wasn't for the fainthearted. I didn't last as long as I would have liked to, but then again I knew what I had gone to see. Dug my own grave, so to speak. Served me right for showing so much morgue.

Enough with the awful macabre humour now...

"When the hearse starts rockin', don't bother knockin' " (a true female narcophiliac, who liked dead boys, heard on a Channel 4 program dedicated to sexual deviances in the mid nineties - one of the quotes one never forgets).

SHIVERS

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RE: Necrophilia - 5/11/2007 4:06:21 PM   
caitlyn


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Status: offline 		Strictly for informational purposes ... The University of Texas, and Texas State University, are two different schools.
 
The University of Texas is one of the largest schools in the United States, and considered one of the best state school. The graduate business program at University of Texas, is considered top notch, on par with any school in the country.
 
Texas State University has a reputation as a party school that is sort of an academic skate.
 
Sorry for jacking your post.

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