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It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/7/2007 4:16:02 PM

Eruditegirl

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The other night one of the subs at the local munch was under hypnotic suggestion...every time her Dom said a certain word she would orgasm....(so flipping cool)...
There was also talk about putting someone in a bag....like a waterbed liner...removing all the air ...and it was suppose to be a tremendous sensory deprivation....
these are things I would be interested in after I have gained more knowledge of them...(oh and found someone I could trust to that extent)....so I was hoping that other collar members might share their experiences or even suggest other hypnotic or sensory deprivation technics....
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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/7/2007 4:19:13 PM

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I haven't had any more experience than blindfolds, but don't be surprized if LuckyAlbatross stops by with eight or nine links for you to follow. ; )

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/7/2007 4:23:22 PM

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I just wanted to point out there is a hypnosis post already going on right now, with some experiences likely detailed there.

For myself, I have been hypnotized, it was over the telephone and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was an interesting way to get to sub space.

With someone you trust as in all things it can be awesome.

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/7/2007 4:58:58 PM

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For the second question, you're looking for a Vacbed or Vacubed. http://www.vacbed.com/site/static.php?page=Galleries

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/7/2007 4:59:12 PM

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Here's a link to something called the "Sucky Bed", it's what you're referring to. http://www.baroness.com/features/events/R007-SuckyBed/Retinue7.html

Hypnosis, I stay away from. It's a powerful tool in the hands of amateurs and I'm uncomfortable with that.

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/7/2007 5:05:12 PM

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Just be careful that sensory deprivation doesn't become oxygen deprivation.

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/7/2007 5:19:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: Eruditegirl

The other night one of the subs at the local munch was under hypnotic suggestion...every time her Dom said a certain word she would orgasm....(so flipping cool)...
There was also talk about putting someone in a bag....like a waterbed liner...removing all the air ...and it was suppose to be a tremendous sensory deprivation....
these are things I would be interested in after I have gained more knowledge of them...(oh and found someone I could trust to that extent)....so I was hoping that other collar members might share their experiences or even suggest other hypnotic or sensory deprivation technics....
Thanks

Hypnosis is a powerful tool. It is also a tool that can be used in a less-than-honest fashion. Because of these two factors, you see an ongoing debate among health care professionals about its' use. On one hand, it can be used for relaxation and susceptibility, making whatever treatment is being rendered that day that much more effective. On the other hand, it can be used for a trance-like state of relaxation and susceptibility, thus making it easier to to convince a patient...whose tendency even nowadays is more to go along with their doctor than to question/challenge/defy them...to accept the treatment the doctor wants to offer. Worse, it could be used to seduce or do things to a patient that should not be done. People argue that a person will not do things under hypnosis that runs counter to what they would like or want to do or to their moral code. But stop and think...how many women and men do you you know that would like to be seduced/seduce their doctor...lawyer...etc.?

I stay away from it professionally and am leery of it in wiitwd although I have to admit; I have wondered about those submissives trained to come on command by their Master/Mistresses' voice commands alone. In getting them to this point, couldn't one say that a form of hypnotic suggestion training has taken place? People more experienced than I at hypnosis...any answers to that?

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/7/2007 5:25:12 PM

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I saw someone saran wrapped to a massage table for sensory deprivation. It was pretty cool.

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/7/2007 6:16:32 PM

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My classic of ear plugs and sunglasses painted black can do a lot of sensory deprivation.

I use vacuum bags for doing veneering, I can't imagine they do it with the submissives head inside the bag, doesn't seem like a good idea to me, even if there is a tube for them to breath through as the force inside a good vacuum is about 17 pounds per square inch.

For a very rare woman or two I have been known to read them to sleep and once they are breathing soundly I simply repeat positive affirmations for a while.

There is a vast difference between being unable to cum without someones voice, which I know exists and cumming simply at a command word, which while I am sure there are people who really do it, most I believe are faking it on some level.

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/7/2007 7:00:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

For the second question, you're looking for a Vacbed or Vacubed. http://www.vacbed.com/site/static.php?page=Galleries

Master Fire

OMG.. how cool is that? i wonder if there are any modifications that can be made to use the vaccuum technique for fetish club wear? how much easier would it be to get dressed?

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/7/2007 7:13:58 PM

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Finally found the other one. http://www.baroness.com/LatexRubber/BIZARRE/suckybed/index.html

I've actually seen one of these made from a waterbed bladder and PVC.

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/7/2007 7:18:58 PM

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It's quite reasonable that a woman (or a man, but this seems culturally a het female submissive thing) could be really aroused, and feel an orgasm building and decide to let it go when asked to come. I know I've held back or decided to let go based on the state of arousal of my sexual partner, and on the feelings I wanted to achieve. It also strikes me as reasonable that a woman could be aroused and something that she found very appealing (like being asked to come) could push her over the edge and serve as a catalyst for orgasm. And it's certainly true that a word or non-touching action could induce arousal in an unaroused person--I've experienced that, too, and I think it's actually quite rare to find someone who can *only* get turned on by physical stimulation. I'm not terribly confident in the zero to orgasm in a few seconds school of "coming on command"--it would be interesting to do an experiment on that basis, seeing as orgasm is an identifiable physical event. It's a fun idea, though, and certainly a hot fantasy.

As for the other, you're looking for a vac-u-bed, yes. You can try out encasement with spandex or saran wrap.

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/7/2007 7:33:14 PM

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Ya know...I wouldn't of believed it if I hadn't seen it myself....now don't get me wrong...I was married once upon a time....so I know as a female...we can fake and fake quite well....but she was not faking...

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/7/2007 7:34:33 PM

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Thank you for the links....

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/8/2007 12:32:06 AM

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The vacubed is quite enjoyable, and no, the head doesn't go inside LOL! It gets left outside. Once the air has been sucked out, you can have quite a bit of fun playing with the sub by applying various sensations to the outside of the bed - the intensity tends to be muted but also the effect is more dispersed. The only problem I found was that the vacuum makes a LOT of noise and can be rather annoying in a Dungeon play-party scenario. Really best to move it into a side room! I am fond of using plastic wrap on My subs too ... though that can get very hot in a warm climate!
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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/8/2007 7:56:46 AM

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We have a latex vacuum bed, and yes, the head DOES go inside. We've also got a vacuum bag, wherein the head does NOT go inside. Personally, I prefer the "inside" one, although I would strongly recommend the use of earplugs. It's purple, of course, and they run about $400 U.S. We bought ours from http://www.cocoon1.com/. Click the "deflatables" link. You'll see both of our pieces. The biggest problem with deflatables is that once the suction stops, they're not really airtight, and you begin losing suction immediately.

Lately, I'm more interested in INflatables.

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/8/2007 8:15:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: PairOfDimes

It's quite reasonable that a woman (or a man, but this seems culturally a het female submissive thing) could be really aroused, and feel an orgasm building and decide to let it go when asked to come. I know I've held back or decided to let go based on the state of arousal of my sexual partner, and on the feelings I wanted to achieve. It also strikes me as reasonable that a woman could be aroused and something that she found very appealing (like being asked to come) could push her over the edge and serve as a catalyst for orgasm. And it's certainly true that a word or non-touching action could induce arousal in an unaroused person--I've experienced that, too, and I think it's actually quite rare to find someone who can *only* get turned on by physical stimulation. I'm not terribly confident in the zero to orgasm in a few seconds school of "coming on command"--it would be interesting to do an experiment on that basis, seeing as orgasm is an identifiable physical event. It's a fun idea, though, and certainly a hot fantasy.

As for the other, you're looking for a vac-u-bed, yes. You can try out encasement with spandex or saran wrap.

some females are wired in such a way that they are in a constant "state of arousal", bordering on orgasm. the medical community has cum up with initials for it: PSAS. even minor physical contact such as tight fitting clothing or minor general stimulus like riding in a car can induce multiple orgasms. making it stop, especially if one is trying to concentrate on a sermon or cook dinner, can be a challenge. Mentally surrendering control to Master has helped lessen the frequency of spontaneous orgasm and helps this slave to focus.

personally, this slave has had uncontrollable orgasms in a room full of people in a public place with no sexual thoughts running through the mind, or physical stimulation either. it used to cause this slave a bit of social anxiety, but this slave doesn't freak out about it anymore, and Master doesn't seem to mind the constant state of arousal...

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/8/2007 9:15:17 AM

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Merc,

I knew you were a lucky bastard but geez....just rub it in okay?

LOL!

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/8/2007 11:21:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Merc,

I knew you were a lucky bastard but geez....just rub it in okay?

LOL!

I second your thoughts on this, Michael....

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RE: It's 2...2 questions in 1 post... - 5/8/2007 1:06:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Merc,

I knew you were a lucky bastard but geez....just rub it in okay?

LOL!

I second your thoughts on this, Michael....

I could ask how you gentlemen would like to walk around with an erection all the time...

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