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Movie "The Queen" - 5/4/2007 7:37:00 AM   
mistoferin


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Last night I watched the movie "The Queen" with Helen Mirren. I must say that I felt that it didn't exactly portray her in the best light. The movie was centered around the Queen's reactions to the death of Princess Diana. While I knew that there was no love lost between the two of them, I was surprised at how the movie portrayed her as being so emotionally cold in general. Maybe some of you folks from across the pond could shed some light as to whether or not that depiction is close to being accurate?

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RE: Movie "The Queen" - 5/4/2007 7:52:52 AM   
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I haven't seen this film.  However, to be honest Erin, us over the pond do not have the fairytale affection that (most?) of the US seem to have with Diana.  So if the film shows little queen emotion over Dianas death, that combined with the 'Brit stiff upper lip'  - doesn't surprise me...
 
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RE: Movie "The Queen" - 5/4/2007 8:02:29 AM   
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Really?  I thought the movie showed that the Queen was highly emotionally connected- but in a way that is very different from how most people show emotions today.  She was raised to and had to keep her emotions in check by coming into power during a world war in which they were losing at the time, raise the country up into a completely new world, have an "outsider" come in and take all the prestige and austerity she had worked so hard to protect get splashed all over the tabloids. 

I thought that was the entire point of the buck plotline- to show just how connected QEII was to her world and DID feel grief and respect for it, but personally and station wise felt completely adrift on how the world was telling her that not only was she not grieving appropriately, but that she was hurting her own country because of it.  Even though it was always what she had known and been before.

Here's my LJ post on the movie:
I had guessed I would like The Queen, despite being overexposed to Helen Mirren as the icon of monarchy this year. I’m such juxtaposition, idiosyncratic both extremes together type of person that anything dealing with those same themes tends to delight as well.

And I was not disappointed. The telling first scene involved the newly elected Prime Minister Tony Blair meeting the Queen for the official invitation. The wife disdains of the old formal ways and makes awkward jokes about her.

But when she sits down in a chair, she immediately crosses her legs at the ankle, shifts them to the side and clasps her hands neatly on her lap.

Etiquette and formality is a sliding scale indeed.

And so many questions are lit up in the movie- when does structure become a fortress? When do traditions start to stifle us rather than lift us up? When we do go from being repressive to being vulgar?

It’s so funny considering how disdainful I tend to be of formality and rituals WITHIN the scene, that I care so deeply and strongly about them in life in general. I think it’s because I’m so unempathic that I need these cues to keep myself in line and prevents others from coming into my lines. I’m so OCD that I love the comfort the rules bring.

I also think that a monarchy IS a socially recognized position while dominant is not. I’ll follow rules of order for a chair of the board no matter what orientation, but I won’t follow rules of order for a random dominant.

It also spoke deeply to me of my issues with lack of empathy. While I don’t think it was really the Queen’s issue, it did point out how the supposedly empathic people are always the ones crying out about how the unempathic ones are uncaring, unfeeling, unsympathetic. Does that seem right to you?

Obviously lacking empathy hardly means one lacks the depth for feeling, for connection, for perspective, for any emotion. I simply connect and express it differently.

And finally, the Queen made a point of putting duty before self- that her own grieving was not a matter for the public and to do her duty was the ultimate priority. As a woman who came into the monarchy early, during war crisis, it’s obvious how this would become so completely instilled in her.

In a world where so many bitch about the “entitled spoiled Me-generation,” where are those voices when asked to put duty above personal self? When is sacrifice for the good?

As always, where is the balance on the scale?






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RE: Movie "The Queen" - 5/4/2007 10:23:54 AM   
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I'm not a Brit but a dear friend is a Londoner and I was in touch with her after Diana's death and have talked about the movie with her at length.

The reaction to Diana's death was completely out of character for the British and really unpredictable. The queen's initial nonresponse to the unfolding events is exactly what was expected of the monarch before then. How much of the "anger" against Elizabeth and Charles was real and how much was stirred up by the tabloid press is something that may never be clearly known.

The movie certainly portrays the publicly known events correctly and the press reports and leaks from the government at the time supports the film's version of most of what wasn't in the public eye.

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RE: Movie "The Queen" - 5/4/2007 1:30:56 PM   
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Thank you for sharing your LJ post on this subject with us, LA.  What you shared means I am now looking forward even more to seeing the movie.  *Smile*

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RE: Movie "The Queen" - 5/4/2007 1:35:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Last night I watched the movie "The Queen" with Helen Mirren. I must say that I felt that it didn't exactly portray her in the best light. The movie was centered around the Queen's reactions to the death of Princess Diana. While I knew that there was no love lost between the two of them, I was surprised at how the movie portrayed her as being so emotionally cold in general. Maybe some of you folks from across the pond could shed some light as to whether or not that depiction is close to being accurate?


I've been living in the palace for a while now. I've observed her at close quarters and so I'm more qualified to speak on the matter than anyone on this board.

She ain't human.

I haven't seen the film, but if it showed the bit where she shoots Diana in the face in a tunnel in Paris, and shows her training her dogs to attack the poor, then I can vouch for its 100% authenticity.

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