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RE: situation comedy - 5/3/2007 8:29:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		My favorite episode of the Simpson had Sideshow Bob (Kelsey Grammer) and his brother (played by the actor who played Niles Crane on Frasier).

They were engaged in some terrorist anti-Springfield antics having escaped from prison, and all they did was bitch at each other for screwing it up.  I am still rolling on the floor laughing about it.

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RE: situation comedy - 5/4/2007 1:56:47 AM   
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My favorite episode of the Simpson had Sideshow Bob (Kelsey Grammer) and his brother (played by the actor who played Niles Crane on Frasier).

They were engaged in some terrorist anti-Springfield antics having escaped from prison, and all they did was bitch at each other for screwing it up. I am still rolling on the floor laughing about it.

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LOL..... I remember that episode.

I want to ask you guys... what do you think of Maris?

hummm.... my favorite quote today is: "I'm fluent in English, British, American, and Canadian"


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RE: situation comedy - 5/4/2007 4:39:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		David Hyde Pierce played Niles, and brilliantly. 

As far as Maris, her character image was hilarious, and I thought it was a great touch by the show of never showing her to us, but letting our minds develop her image....I loved lines like "Maris is so slender that she has to brace herself against a wall before she sneezes or she'll drop like a wounded waterfowl", etc.

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RE: situation comedy - 5/4/2007 4:42:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

My favorite episode of the Simpson had Sideshow Bob (Kelsey Grammer) and his brother (played by the actor who played Niles Crane on Frasier).

They were engaged in some terrorist anti-Springfield antics having escaped from prison, and all they did was bitch at each other for screwing it up. I am still rolling on the floor laughing about it.

Sinergy


Sideshow Bob's Last Gleaming (#3F08)
The Summary:

Sideshow Bob finds himself becoming increasingly annoyed by television, and decides to do something about it when the prisoners are taken to clean up an airforce base in preperation for the upcoming airshow. Bob escapes and hijacks an atomic bomb, using it to force all of Springfield's television stations to shut down. He's foiled by Bart and Lisa, of course. In the exciting climax, Bob makes off in the Wright brothers' original plane with Bart in tow, and attempts to crash into the emergency broadcast signal shack where Krusty is running a pirate TV station.


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RE: situation comedy - 5/4/2007 5:11:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Slaveish said talking about Daphne in Frasier...
In the show she was from Manchester, had a bit of a 'scouser' accent. In reality she has a fairly refined accent. I like the working class one she used on the show better

I haven't heard her speak off stage but I wonder if her accent would really fail when heard by a good ear. ie be detected as an actress trying to talk posh.

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I thought the Americanisation of imported Brit shows was done to broaden the appeal and hence the likelyhood of succes and hence increased advertising dollars.
For those who like All in the Family if that is the show with the crusty father Carrol O'Connor ? and flighty daughter and uppity son in law, not sure of the actors names, then that is based on a Brit show, shit forgot the name of that too but the main character was Alf Garnett.

3's a crowd, I think thats the title, which I have never seen and only found out about  when looking into John Ritter's background was also Brit. based.
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RE: situation comedy - 5/5/2007 1:12:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Seeksfemslave: Actually the John Ritter show was "Three's Company".  Personally I never really got into that one.  I remember watching "All in the Family" when I was in grade school, and thinking how funny it was.  Now I watch and just don't "get it".  It was based on the british show "Til Death Us Do Part" I believe (never saw it, but it just another peice of useless trivia that is stuck in my head).    You are more than likely right, about why the shows are "americanized", but I just cringe everytime I show I happen to watch and enjoy that is from britian, I hear is being adapted for the states.  You change the actors, and the chemisty changes.  I will admit, to my great suprise, I find the american version of "the office" just as funny as the brit version... even though the brit version makes me cringe more, which I know is done on purpose.


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RE: situation comedy - 5/5/2007 4:47:05 AM   
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One final sort of off note, and I wish someone could explain this to me...  Why do british shows, that are funny, and good, need to be remade for american television?   It's pretty damn close to the same language, and the few differences are easy enough to figure out based on context and dialog.  So there are only 6 or 8 episodes, who cares.  I guess some people would just be confused, and scared if that were happen... they might even turn off the television :)



Rightly or wrongly, because it's a product first and foremost. Business tailors its products to the local culture.

There is a difference in style and culture - our humour reflects our culture i.e. cynical and understated. It's not just the US, the French take British comedy and put their own slant on it e.g. The Office, Spitting Image.

In contradiction to the above, I'm scratching my head and can't remember Britain taking a foreign comedy and turning it into a British version. I could be wrong here, but nothing springs to mind. We tend to take them as they are - most successful are Irish and then American I would say - which thinking about it is strange because Irish and American humour is noticably different to ours whereas Aussie humour is very similar to British. Yet, I can't remember seeing any Aussie comedy in the years I actually watched the tele.

In terms of the OP, I think Arrested Development is quality - social commentary on modern life and first class comedy. If anyone saw the episodes where the dad kept telling his son there's money in the banana stand - classic.







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RE: situation comedy - 5/5/2007 12:47:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Happypervert I'm totally with you on "king of the hill"   such a beautiful take on Texans

My favourite though is The Office


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“I was just wondering whether will there ever be a boy born who can swim faster than a shark.”
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RE: situation comedy - 5/5/2007 2:23:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Personally I don't see the two cultures being all that different, at least no more so than you see in differnet regions of the states, but then I base my views off of the british television shows I have seen.  Again, and I go back to what I mentioned earlier, that it seems like the network execs who made the decisions are afraid to do anything that might challange their viewers.  Even if it is exposure to the slight differneces of another culture, or, and this I think is especially true, their own view of ourselves.  To me, I would think from the business side, it would be cheaper to just buy the program as is, and reair, than buy the program, then rewrite and recast, ect.  I know that their shows do run longer, and that is something that just occured to me.  Here a show that fills an hour timeslot has about 20 minutes of advertising. 

You made a very intersting comment, about how they show american television shows without having to "britianize" (I think I might have invented a new word, probably not *smile*), them.  So what does this tell us about the culture of america, where we have to "americanize" the shows? 

Oh, and hands down, funniest thing I ever saw, was an episode of Top Gear on youtube, where the guys were doing their american tour, and they were driving through Alabama, after decorating their cars.  I about fell over laughing the first time I watched that. 

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RE: situation comedy - 5/5/2007 2:34:48 PM   
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Oh, and hands down, funniest thing I ever saw, was an episode of Top Gear on youtube, where the guys were doing their american tour, and they were driving through Alabama, after decorating their cars.  I about fell over laughing the first time I watched that. 



I haven't seen it, but have been told about it. It's one thing taking the piss, but you have to know what you're dealing with - I reckon the Top Gear lot bit off more than they could chew in Alabama :-)

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RE: situation comedy - 5/5/2007 2:43:16 PM   
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RE: situation comedy - 5/5/2007 2:47:17 PM   
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Seeksfemslave: Actually the John Ritter show was "Three's Company".
All in the family I was based on the british show "Til Death Us Do Part"


Ok that sounds right and OK that sounds right as well !

The John Ritter performance in 8 Simple Rules and the whole show for me just pressed all the right buttons. I have seen Ritter in other things since he came to my notice and quite frankly the impact was zero, but 8SR absolutely perfect IMO. I thought that the show was, in the early series, one of the most successful on US television but apparently that is not true. The family relationships that were the basis of the show, concerned but loving father and rebellious but loving daughters appealed to me in a way that no other sit com has ever done.

The episodes incorporating Ritter's untimely death I find unbearable and moving and simply cannot watch again. Especially the scene showing the two younger children moving on after the father's death but the elder daughter totally devastated and upset.


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RE: situation comedy - 5/5/2007 3:20:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Seeksfemslave: I always sort of felt the same way about most of the sitcoms I saw Ritter in.  He was a funny guy, but the shows themselves just never sparked my interest.  I had pretty much stopped watching sitcoms by the time his last series aired.  I am sure at some point in time, it will be airing on some late night television channel as filler, and I might catch it. 
 

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RE: situation comedy - 5/5/2007 3:39:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I became quite obsessed with this show which quite honestly is most unusual for me. I mean the episodes with Ritter.

The thing that caught my attention was the ingenious introductory scene where all the Henessey family come to the door in turn to greet, in their own way, a boyfriend of one of the daughters. The boyfriend is not seen.
The show is broadcast daily on Digital TV in the UK. The problem is I have seen the episodes so many times that the appeal cannot possibly be sustained.

The writing is of the highest standard IMO. Devoid of the usual slick brittle one liners present in many American shows. I find this a plus Nearly always  a well crafted and funny main plot and a sub plot so that all the actors can shine.

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RE: situation comedy - 5/5/2007 4:12:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I might have to give it a shot.  The introduction sounds simular to what was originally used on the Rockford Files, where each episode would start off with someone leaving a different message on his anwsering machine.

There have been a number of great TV shows that I have enjoyed, unfortunatly they have all been cancelled, and replaced with something that is along the lines of  "when ______ attack" or "who wants to _______ a _______".  If know what a noun is, and can fill in the blanks, then you can work for FOX.  Hell if you know what a verb and an adverb are you could even get a job at FoxNews *smile*

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RE: situation comedy - 5/6/2007 9:41:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		M.A.S.H. ranks pretty highly on the list. A single episode can make me laugh, cry and then laugh all over again. I catch the re-runs whenever I get a chance.

I'm sure there are half a dozen others, at least. But I'm running on fumes and my brain has officially gone to bed.


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