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Does the media shape your thought? - 4/25/2007 6:14:53 PM   
Musicmystery


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http://writingtrue.blogspot.com/2007/04/blaming-media.html

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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/25/2007 6:22:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		i believe it depends on the media you choose to listen to.  Some are extremely slanted and others show opinions from both sides or give more factual information.

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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/25/2007 6:24:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I take everything in the media with a grain of salt, and sometimes add a little MSG to enhance the flavor.

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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/25/2007 6:34:02 PM   
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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/25/2007 7:21:42 PM   
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hmmmm .. Media doesn't seem so distasteful now.






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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/25/2007 8:44:42 PM   
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I will say that I can tell the difference between television watchers and myself. People that rely on few news sources or broadcast media believe the world is a different place than what it is. They are often uninformed or ill informed.. An example of this would be the perception that Saddam had something to do with 9-11, people who watched Fox were the largest percentage of those who believed this. People that watched tv period were the second largest group. Readers did not believe this nearly as much... this is just one example.

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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/25/2007 11:11:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Keep in mind that the general population is extremely gullible. They go through life with two assumptions...
1. The media will never lie
2. The government will never lie

You see this specifically in juries during court cases. In a trial, the jury goes in with the assumption that the government is always telling the truth and the defendant is either guilty or has done some kind of wrong otherwise the police wouldn't have arrested them. Same with police, people ALWAYS assume they tell the truth.

People dont like to think that the government is lying because they like to think the government is on their side.

It is easier to go through life thinking that way. But in reality, the media, the government, and even police have lied. Many, many, many times.

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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/26/2007 1:03:23 AM   
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I will say that I can tell the difference between television watchers and myself. People that rely on few news sources or broadcast media believe the world is a different place than what it is. They are often uninformed or ill informed.


While I've agreed with a great many of your posts, this is hands down the one I agree with the most.

The ''TV watchers'' as I call them, are the most intellectually lazy people on his planet. They exist only to be controlled /constrained through that passive lens /medium we know as mainstream /corporate news. They also live to ''parrot'', never ever understanding a particular philosophy that propels that ideology forward. Yes.... I definitely believe the  ''TV watchers'', are /will-be the downfall of this country.







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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/26/2007 1:25:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		The real problem as I see it is that with communication techniques being so advanced and almost instantaneous and, when that is coupled with the fact that  the media are in a position to be selective as to what is or is not reported so it seems to me to be inevitable that they will shape many peoples' thoughts.

Posters who reach further for say books or articles by and large will self select and look for "sauces" that support what they had a tendency to believe anyway. NO?

Only at very early stages of life are we an open book, but then of course we are influenced by those who control us when we are children. Almost certainly the most powerful influences we ever receive. NO?

So I say choose parents who have NO point of view on anything then at least you will start as a young adult with an open mind !

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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/26/2007 1:32:01 AM   
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cyberdude611 said...talking about gullibility (sp?)
You see this specifically in juries during court cases. In a trial, the jury goes in with the assumption that the government is always telling the truth and the defendant is either guilty or has done some kind of wrong otherwise the police wouldn't have arrested them. Same with police, people ALWAYS assume they tell the truth.


Likewise with the acceptance of the most preposterous defences put forward by criminals. 
Many are prepared to accept such defences due to their own, say, anti police bias. NO?

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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/26/2007 3:51:04 AM   
OwnerSeeking


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When you have large media corporations who's interest is to make a dollar, and push a point of view that a government, or more specifically a powerful political party likes, even if it goes against serving the public good, then there is no check on the lies that can be told. 

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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/26/2007 6:51:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Of course, in all fairness, you can't cover everything, so somehow choices must be made.

But therein, yes, also lies the problem.

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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/26/2007 12:10:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Are the media a force or a scapegoat?



That's a good question.

In terms of a force, I could give you some good examples of the media spewing the corporate agenda, and basically influencing society.

In terms of a scapegoat, it's not so clear cut. They have some powerful tools at their disposal, but surely people need to help themselves from time to time?

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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/26/2007 12:28:49 PM   
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I try to watch 3 or 4 different networks and news shows as well as many sites on the internet to get a broad picture of what is going on.
I haven't read the NY Times for years now since they began putting the Editorials on the front page.
Too many Jason Blairs working there.

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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/26/2007 12:33:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know if you can blame the media...But you can certainly blame the people for gobbling this shit up!!! 24/7 you see every bit of bad news whether it is from that cunt, Nancy Grace, Fox, CNN...on and on and on....You can see why people freak out...They think the world is coming to an end...Violence in schools, kids getting snatched...Rape....

Violent crime is down! It has been steadily and continually dropping since the mid sixties...But The media would lead you to believe that you are taking a grave risk by walking outside....People have lost the ability of personal judgement....We are pathetic.

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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/26/2007 12:39:24 PM   
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see?

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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/26/2007 2:49:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger

quote:

I will say that I can tell the difference between television watchers and myself. People that rely on few news sources or broadcast media believe the world is a different place than what it is. They are often uninformed or ill informed.


While I've agreed with a great many of your posts, this is hands down the one I agree with the most.

The ''TV watchers'' as I call them, are the most intellectually lazy people on his planet. They exist only to be controlled /constrained through that passive lens /medium we know as mainstream /corporate news. They also live to ''parrot'', never ever understanding a particular philosophy that propels that ideology forward. Yes.... I definitely believe the  ''TV watchers'', are /will-be the downfall of this country.







- R




i couldn't disagree more with the two of you.  i always watch news either locally, nationally, CNN, or MSNBC.  i feel like i am very up to date with what is going on in the world and as to the reality of the facts.  i have the news on from the time i get home from work til when i go to bed.

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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/26/2007 6:13:18 PM   
Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: aSlavesLife

I take everything in the media with a grain of salt, and sometimes add a little MSG to enhance the flavor.


Gotta say, though, I love this post. Nice turn of phrase.

Tim

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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/26/2007 6:20:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sad truth is the media for a lack of better wording , does influence our thinking.
We are now in postion to pick and choose the sources we trust or at least sources that allow us to support  our way of thinking . Right or wrong

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RE: Does the media shape your thought? - 4/26/2007 6:35:32 PM   
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