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FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/22/2007 11:11:49 AM   
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I h ave brought this stuff up several times in the past on here and not even one freaking response in some cases.   i have pointed out that Nikola Tesla was in fact one of the worlds greatest of all time inventors who wanted to give us FREE ENERGY.   JP Morgan a BANKER cut his funding and by doing so destroyed his reputation such that no one would fund him as there was no way to meter this and make MONEY from it.

Well now that we are being gouged for energy and people are getting conscious of carbon footprints etc and the high costs associated with energy this is in my opinion our "long term" future energy supply and it will be free because it cannot be metered!!!

There are already perpetual devices in existance today or above unity but not on a large enough scale to do us any good.   Here is a video that shows where this technology is at and how this technology DEFIES THE LAWS OF PHYSICS, or at least 3 of them.  Actually it does not defy physics at all just takes us into an area only tesla and plank and a very few others have dared to enter and gives us new avenues of physics.  Avenues that have been known for nearly 100 years and scoffed at by einsteinonian peer reviewers.

Teslas work was thought to defy the laws of "accepted" physics as well!   So here is a sharp STICK IN THE EYE to all those who go to the bank with PEER REVIEWED! 

Tesla build a device nearly 100 years ago that demonstrated these principles! 

Ignorance is bliss until it starts costing us money!  Morgan and the money cronies have set this world back at least 50 years and it has all been supported by peer review. Bankers and politicians are my only exception to genocide.

After you view this video you will have a whole new respect for those who do not conform to "status quo".

Global warming advocates should be on this like flies on candy!  i am surprised that i have not seen LAM mention this since i am guessing he is a scientific american reader, but here it is the solution to the "carbon print" and high cost of energy.  FREE ENERGY!  You seen me post other things under topics like tesla, and zero point but no one recognises them so i choose the title free energy as that is very hard to miss, maybe that will get some attention and we can figure out a way how to get our "OIL" government who worship the CORPORATE GOD to look at it!  (Do i hear petition?)

Anyway enjoy professor whats his face lecture and the future looks bright!  (no pun intended)


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5738531568036565057&q=free%2Benergy&hl=en


Any other tesla fans?  Anyone else look into ZERO POINT ENERGY?  Otherwise known as "Dark Energy" etc?

here is zero point c onfigured to make hydrogen  that has already been shown to the gov but does not show up in any DOE studies, case in point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcy3JbGjQwo

Comments certainly welcome, i have always found this stuff beyond intriguing.  i call it the "bleeding edge" of science...

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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/22/2007 11:56:06 AM   
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Viewpoint of Tesla and Edison from another source:

http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/proj/edsntsla/hist1.htm

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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/22/2007 12:07:52 PM   
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And another:

http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_america.html

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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/22/2007 12:35:20 PM   
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Ever see Mythbusters on the Discovery Channel?  The bought quite a few zero point energy devices and found that none of them worked as advertised.

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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/22/2007 2:17:41 PM   
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Ever see Mythbusters on the Discovery Channel?  The bought quite a few zero point energy devices and found that none of them worked as advertised.

thornhappy



Really?    Ever see these videos?

Did the Discovery channel include the hutchinson effect that even the army is doing experiments with?  Tom Beardens motionless generator, Tom is a "nuclear" physicist/engineer btw...

I suppose they showed all the quacks to discredit the progress being made in these areas so that makes it easy to dismiss.   

How many credible physics engineers have they shown?   

If this is all bs then why is the army experimenting with it?

Japan is big into it, everyone but us!

Japan has no oil industry to protect!  We Do!

Here is another video with several various "professors", Bearden too, talking about how dim witted science has been to scoff at the "ether" that tesla and others had working models of in the early 1900's and they show some amazing devices that use zero point energy that will NEVER be developed because physicists have closed their eyes to the possibilities and those that have not have yet to catch up with the devices to express them mathematically.  

Without patents and investors none of this will come into existance and we can keep dying in the ME for oil and paying absorbitant prices for energy!!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7365305906535911834&q=zero%2Bpoint%2Benergy

this one is a video of real working devices that operate, and here we are pissing the ME off so they have every reason to come over and attack us.

No one can seem to see the big picture here.   Why is this being suppressed? Oh yeh so we can die for oil and keep the elite rolling in dough i forgot.

watch it, its great stuff!!!  Will even be able to clean up and neutralize our nuclear heavy water and our whole environment.

Thanks for making my point as to how this has been suppressed!!!

Free energy = good bye grid, good bye toxic world, good bye corporate leaches!!!




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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/22/2007 2:56:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subfever

Viewpoint of Tesla and Edison from another source:

http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/proj/edsntsla/hist1.htm


Thanks for the excellent link on Tesla SF.

Here is a snippet from that link albeit rather large on how this man made us what we are today, and if he said free energy exists you can bet as "HISTORY HAS PROVEN" we are still to fucking stoopid to figure it out.

Nikola Tesla

What do the following items have in common:

The fluorescent bulb
Neon lights
Speedometer
The automobile ignition system
The radar
The electron microscope
The microwave oven


Answer: They were all invented by the same person.

The funny thing is, most chances are that you have never heard of him.

No doubt about it, Nikola Tesla is one of the greatest inventors.

So who was this genius?

Nikola Tesla was born in Smijlan, Croatia way back in 1856. He had an extraordinary memory and spoke six languages. He spent four years at the Polytechnic Institute at Gratz studying math, physics, and mechanics.

Tesla devised a better system for electrical transmission - the AC (alternating current) system that we use in our homes today. AC offered great advantages over the DC system. By using Tesla's newly developed transformers, AC voltages could be stepped up and transmitted over long distances through thin wires. DC could not (requiring a large power plant every square mile while transmitting through very thick cables).

Of course, a system of transmission would be incomplete without devices to run on them. So, he invented the motors that are used in every appliance in your house. This was no simple achievement - scientists of the late 1800's were convinced that no motor could be devised for an alternating current system, making the use of AC a waste of time. After all, if the current reverses direction 60 times a second, the motor will rock back and forth and never get anywhere. Tesla solved this problem easily and proved everyone wrong.

He was using fluorescent bulbs in his lab some forty years before industry "invented" them. At World's Fairs and similar exhibitions, he took glass tubes and molded them into the shapes of famous scientists' names - the first neon signs that we see all around us today. I almost forgot - Tesla designed the world's first hydroelectric plant, located in Niagara Falls. He also patented the first speedometer for cars.

Word began to spread about his AC system and it eventually reached the ears of one George Westinghouse.

Tesla signed a contract with Westinghouse under which he would receive $2.50 for each kilowatt of AC electricity sold.

Suddenly, Tesla had the cash to start conducting all the experiments he ever dreamed of.

But Edison had too much money invested in his DC system, so Tommy did his best to discredit Tesla around every turn. Edison constantly tried to show that AC electricity was far more dangerous than his DC power.

Tesla counteracted by staging his own marketing campaign. At the 1893 World Exposition in Chicago (attended by 21 million people), he demonstrated how safe AC electricity was by passing high frequency AC power through his body to power light bulbs. He then was able to shoot large lightning bolts from his Tesla coils to the crowd without harm. Nice trick!

When the royalties owed to Tesla started to exceed $1 million, Westinghouse ran into financial trouble. Tesla realized that if his contract remained in effect, Westinghouse would be out of business and he had no desire to deal with the creditors. His dream was to have cheap AC electric available to all people. Tesla took his contract and ripped it up! Instead of becoming the world's first billionaire, he was paid $216,600 outright for his patents.

In 1898, he demonstrated to the world the first remote controlled model boat at Madison Square Garden. So you can thank Tesla for the invention of those remote controlled planes, cars, and boats (and televisions!), also.

Tesla had a dream of providing free energy to the world. In 1900, backed by $150,000 from financier J.P. Morgan, Tesla began construction of his so called "Wireless Broadcasting System" tower on Long Island, New York. This broadcasting tower was intended to link the world's telephone and telegraph services, as well as transmit pictures, stock reports, and weather information worldwide. Unfortunately, Morgan cut funding when he realized that aims.

Tesla reported that he had received radio signals from Mars and Venus. Today we know that he was actually receiving the signals from distant stars, but too little was known anout the universe at that time. Instead, the press had a field day with his "outrageous" claims.

In his Manhattan lab, Tesla made the earth into an electric tuning fork. He managed to get a steam-driven oscillator to vibrate at the same frequency as the ground beneath him (like Ella Fitgerald breaking the glass with her voice in those old Memorex commercials).

The result? An earthquake on all the surrounding city blocks. The buildings trembled, the windows broke, and the plaster fell off the walls.

Tesla contended that, in theory, the same principle could be used to destroy the Empire State Building or even possibly split the Earth in two. Tesla had accurately determined the resonant frequencies of the Earth almost 60 years before science could confirm his results.

In his Colorado Springs lab in 1899, he sent waves of energy all the way through the Earth, causing them to bounce back to the source (providing the theory for today's accurate earthquake seismic stations). When the waves came back, he added more electricity to it.

The result? The largest man-made lightning bolt ever recorded - 130 feet! - a world's record still unbroken!

The accompanying thunder was heard 22 miles away. The entire meadow surrounding his lab had a strange blue glow, similar to that of St. Elmo's Fire.

But, this was only a warm-up for his real experiment! Unfortunately, he blew out the local power plant's equipment and he was never able to repeat the experiment.


His reward for a lifetime of creativity? The prized (to everyone but Tesla) Edison Medal! A real slap in the face after all the verbal abuse Tesla took from Edison.

The stories go on and on.

Industry's attempt (obviously very successful) to purge him from the scientific literature had driven him into exile for nearly twenty years. Lacking capital, he was forced to place his untested theories into countless notebooks.

The man who invented the modern world died nearly penniless at age 86 on January 7, 1943. More than two thousand people attended his funeral.

In his lifetime, Tesla received over 800 different patents. He probably would have exceeded Edison's record number if he wasn't always broke - he could afford very few patent applications during the last thirty years of his life.

Unlike Edison, Telsa was an original thinker whose ideas typically had no precedent in science. Unfortunately, the world does not financially reward people of Tesla's originality. We only award those that take these concepts and turn them into a refined, useful product.

Scientists today continue to scour through his notes. Many of his far flung theories are just now being proven by our top scientists. For example, the Tesla bladeless disk turbine engine that he designed, when coupled with modern materials, is proving to be among the most efficient motors ever designed. His 1901 patented experiments with cryogenic liquids and electricity provide the foundation for modern superconductors. He talked about experiments that suggested particles with fractional charges of an electron - something that scientists in 1977 finally discovered - quarks! He trully was an extraordinary person!



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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/22/2007 9:02:35 PM   
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Japan is big into it, everyone but us!

Japan has no oil industry to protect!  We Do!


So Tesla proved this way back then and the Japanese are all over it. Okay.

This means that our wiley yellow friends could be selling us appliances and vehicles which require no energy input to operate, but for some reason they are refraining.

What seems to be the problem? Are the guys at Toyota not sure whether we'd like to stop paying for fuel?


It might be that the person not listening to your arguments is you, SamBo.


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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/22/2007 9:19:02 PM   
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Here is a little physics for you if you are a doubting thomas:


In 1993 Cole and Puthoff published a thermodynamic analysis, ''Extracting energy and heat from the vacuum'' (see below), in which they concluded that ''extracting energy and heat from electromagnetic zero-point radiation via the use of the Casimir force'' is in principle possible without violating the laws of thermodynamics.


http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html

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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/22/2007 11:27:38 PM   
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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/22/2007 11:47:32 PM   
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Jumpthru..........

Silly, there is nothing for free.

Refute that.

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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/22/2007 11:50:19 PM   
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Let me rephrase that, there is never ever ANYTING for free, ESPECIALLY POWER. EVER. PERIOD.

Now go read an old physics book and come back with something coherent. Tesla MOVED power, he never created it.

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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/23/2007 12:20:35 AM   
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Why wouldn't the USSR or Chinese have used this stuff to destroy our oil based economy if it worked?

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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/23/2007 12:22:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Let me rephrase that, there is never ever ANYTING for free, ESPECIALLY POWER. EVER. PERIOD.

Now go read an old physics book and come back with something coherent. Tesla MOVED power, he never created it.

T


1 question:  Have you watched the videos?

what did you think of them?


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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/23/2007 12:25:40 AM   
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Why wouldn't the USSR or Chinese have used this stuff to destroy our oil based economy if it worked?


some people believe that russia has had a scalar weapon for several years.  and china is making large moves to alternative energy reserch


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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/23/2007 12:32:54 AM   
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If a Utube video showed Martains straffing Washinton DC with Photon Canons, would it mean that it actually happened, and was being covered up in a massive conspiricy??

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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/23/2007 12:53:34 AM   
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If a Utube video showed Martains straffing Washinton DC with Photon Canons, would it mean that it actually happened, and was being covered up in a massive conspiricy??



So you have seen the video then, care to comment on its contents and exactly what it is that you are poking fun of?


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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/23/2007 9:01:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Let me rephrase that, there is never ever ANYTING for free, ESPECIALLY POWER. EVER. PERIOD.

Now go read an old physics book and come back with something coherent. Tesla MOVED power, he never created it.

T



Yes that is exactly correct and that is all we ever really do with power is move it convert it exchange it for heat etc.    i was thinking about what you said in more depth.

Tesla did not create power either but i think he was using the full set of maxwell equations which took into account the "vaccuum".    The vector equations we use today and have without a second thought dismissed as thourough and complete in fact are only a subset or a stripped out version of the whole set of equations he developed.   Using maxwells full set of equations includes the vaccuum.

What that means is that we have a situation where "open ended" systems can be built.  A well known open ended system is a wind generator or solar.   That does not mean we are creating energy from nothing it only means we are taking from a place where we will never need to give it back and for all intents and puprposes it would be infinite.  Technically it is still a closed loop system but with the cosomos if you will not by depleting our immediate environment.

Totally free no, you make the initial investment and use it for a couple years then when it is paid for all the energy it produces is in fact free.  On the grid you pay nad pay and pay... you know that.

So now if you have a zero maintenance or very low maintenance power generator for all intents and purposes once it paid for itself it is in fact free. 

All the power you get from it that day forward is free.

this is also part of history:
"Electric power is everywhere present in unlimited quantities and can drive the world's machinery without the need of coal, oil, gas, or any other of the common fuels."   Nikola Tesla


So i refute your refutation :)

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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/23/2007 10:24:18 PM   
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High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP)

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/

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Google for more... "H.A.A.R.P."

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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/23/2007 10:44:28 PM   
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In 1993 Cole and Puthoff published a thermodynamic analysis, ''Extracting energy and heat from the vacuum'' (see below), in which they concluded that ''extracting energy and heat from electromagnetic zero-point radiation via the use of the Casimir force'' is in principle possible without violating the laws of thermodynamics.



This is quoting religion, in fact it is the big bang.  No issue with the physics of it.
Theoretically this is possible.   Gas law, all that shit boils down to this, if you can pack atomics in a small enough region---kinda like packing jews in railcars on the way to auchwitz or blacks on a boat from africa, they should explode in the way of a mini singularity  with a big bang and viola.  while atoms are mostly space, we can contain them in a small area, say the size of a collider (CERN) or some such shit, but cannot harness all the little quantums in an organized fashion other than taking a dense radioactive material U235 or U238 or some such ponderable (and even unponderable) material and we can release it instantaneously (we euphamistically call it an atomic bomb) but do not have the werewithal of the ponderable universe to contain it.  Or manage it.

So while we can align individual atoms on a grid, we exspend so much effort to do it, that even your grandsons grandsons grandsons grandsons will not recoup the effort, that is the difference in your four score and seven and the fact that the world is over 4 billion years old, and this is invariants theory (relativity) ----------------

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, fuck it.  



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RE: FREE ENERGY - Power, Electricity and NO CARBON!!! - 4/23/2007 11:16:18 PM   
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If a Utube video showed Martains straffing Washinton DC with Photon Canons, would it mean that it actually happened, and was being covered up in a massive conspiricy??


and to the contrary some people dont have any sense even when hit in the head several times with a big ole 2x4.  You know like pathelogical non -conspiracists.  Cant see the forest through the tress.   But i wont get into that in this one since we have the big lie thread for that one that you appear to be awol from.

High Energy Physics - Theory Title: The Casimir Effect: Physical Manifestations of Zero Point Energy Authors: Kimball A. Milton

(Submitted on 4 Jan 1999)    (to the US patent office)

Abstract: Zero-point fluctuations in quantum fields give rise to observable forces between material bodies, the so-called Casimir forces. In these lectures I present the theory of the Casimir effect, primarily formulated in terms of Green's functions. There is an intimate relation between the Casimir effect and van der Waals forces. Applications to conductors and dielectric bodies of various shapes will be given for the cases of scalar, electromagnetic, and fermionic fields. The dimensional dependence of the effect will be described. Finally, we ask the question: Is there a connection between the Casimir effect and the phenomenon of sonoluminescence?

Comments: 55 pages, 4 ps figures, Invited Lectures at 17th Symposium on Theoretical Physics, Seoul National University, Korea, June 29-July 1, 1998 Subjects: High Energy Physics - Theory (hep-th) Report number: OKHEP-99-01 Cite as: arXiv:hep-th/9901011v1


Submission history From: Kimball A. Milton
[v1] Mon, 4 Jan 1999 19:06:19 GMT (43kb)



Obtaining energy from the sun would in essense be free, wind energy is again in essense free. likewise cosmic energy from the vacuum would be free.  for all intents and purposes


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