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RE: EU aims to criminalise Holocaust denial - 4/20/2007 7:07:01 PM

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America has some problems with the Patriot Act and similar invasive darkness but Europe really is way ahead.

Can you give identifiable data to support that claim? I would have thought since (and even before) the Patriot Act, Europe was way behind, not ahead.

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RE: EU aims to criminalise Holocaust denial - 4/20/2007 7:17:07 PM

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Education is the way to stop holocaust denial. I am strongly against legislating intelligence and beliefs. People should believe anything they like and allowed to disseminate that belief. To me it is tyrannical to keep people from believing what they would like even if it is wrong headed. It reminds me of 1984, who decides which thoughts are crimes, and which ones aren't? And since when was it decided that thinking is dangerous? There are people that think 9-11 was an inside job, should this be a crime? It is dangerous thinking to some people.

On a related note, most of modern psychiatry is built on the foundation started by Freud.

Of course, what we have today is built on the attempt to disprove Freud.

Does this mean Freud was wrong? Sure. But if he was silenced it would have prevented researchers from studying psychology and prevent the passing of knowledge on to the next generation.

To me, that is idiotic. This guy stands up on a box in a town square in Munich and rants about there not being a holocaust. Maybe 25 people go home and research it and go to museums and learn about it. Maybe five of them shave their heads and stomp around singing Neo-Nazi drivel. Maybe one goes on to become a social anthropologist specializing in human genocide.

They might all be wrong. I am trying to remember which holocaust denier it was who went out to disprove it ever happened, and after researching he realized his former position was was idiotic. Now he lectures about both the holocaust and the danger of denying it.

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RE: EU aims to criminalise Holocaust denial - 4/21/2007 12:30:29 AM

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I am trying to remember which holocaust denier it was who went out to disprove it ever happened, and after researching he realized his former position was was idiotic. Now he lectures about both the holocaust and the danger of denying it.

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Not sure, but there's an English bloke who rants about this sort of thing. He went to Austria in 1989 and gave a speech about how it never happened, and the gas chambers are a figment of someone's imagination. He fled the country before the authorities could catch up with him. He went back to Austria in 2005 thinking he could ride above the law, and was promptly jailed in that country.

He has achieved next to nothing. He is still marginalised and, in truth, if it wasn't for the media attention around his jailing, he would be pretty much anonymous.

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