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domiguy -> NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/11/2007 5:10:57 PM)

NBC News cancels MSNBC simulcast of Don Imus radio program immediately.....Yippeee!

Steve Capus, President of NBC...Said , "We didn't cave to any group"...But as he sat across the table and listened to his employees they all said "what if these were our daughters?"




sub4hire -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/11/2007 5:18:20 PM)

I thought they only suspended him for a couple of week's?




domiguy -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/11/2007 5:20:18 PM)

They are no longer going to simulcast his show nationally. He was fired.




Griswold -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/11/2007 5:55:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

NBC News cancels MSNBC simulcast of Don Imus radio program immediately.....Yippeee!

Steve Capus, President of NBC...Said , "We didn't cave to any group"...But as he sat across the table and listened to his employees they all said "what if these were our daughters?"


I'm not convinced that's an accurate quote...however...Imus is a piece of shit that far too long ago thought he didn't stink.

He's garbage, and always has been.  From day 1.

His most recent on air comments didn't bring that to my attention.




minnetar -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/11/2007 8:57:30 PM)

Sir,
not only sponsors leaving in droves but fellow newscasters and their complaints led to this.

minnetar




domiguy -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/11/2007 9:02:03 PM)

It looks like their is now susbstantial pressure to have him removed from his radio job....So much for freedom of speech...It just doesn't apply in this case...Tooo funny.




jj292 -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/11/2007 9:04:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

They are no longer going to simulcast his show nationally. He was fired.


MSNBC is no longer going to air his show, but he is still broadcasting nationally on the radio unless CBS Corp and Westwood One fires him.

The reason MSNBC caved was because it's biggest sponsor, General Motors, pulled out.




minnetar -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/11/2007 9:05:04 PM)

Sir this girl thinks it is based on these abhorrent comments and previous comments in the same regards.  When the major sponsors left, he had to know he would be let go.

minnetar




cyberdude611 -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/11/2007 9:10:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

It looks like their is now susbstantial pressure to have him removed from his radio job....So much for freedom of speech...It just doesn't apply in this case...Tooo funny.


And he will be simply hired by someone else.

A few years ago Michael Savage was on MSNBC and made an insult to a gay caller that he hoped he "got AIDS and died." Pressure forced MSNBC to fire him. But he was then hired by Clear Channel. Today, Savage has the #3 radio program in the country.
Also remember when Rush Limbaugh made a racial comment on ESPN that the media justs "wants to see a black QB do well." He was fired from ESPN...but he kept his radio job.




minnetar -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/11/2007 9:15:12 PM)

So isn't the bottom line money?  The major sponsors left msnbc because of Imus and You speak of a man who has third ranked after making a slur.

minnetar




cyberdude611 -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/11/2007 9:18:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: minnetar

So isn't the bottom line money?  The major sponsors left msnbc because of Imus and You speak of a man who has third ranked after making a slur.

minnetar



First off...he was not anywhere near #3 when he made the slur. So he's actually accumulated listeners. And I used him as an example of how firing radio jocks don't exactly leave them looking at the wanted ads.

As for Imus, he will just go to a company that has different sponsors. And yes, of course the bottom line is money. It is what makes the world go round.




ElectraGlide -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/12/2007 12:50:15 AM)

Don Anus got fired for doing what he was paid to do. He was being a Shock Jock. If he did not loose any sponsers he would still be there, because it is about money. He will be picked up by somebody else soon and doing what he does worse, babbling on a radio mic. He has not been funny for a long time, he is spent and bobbles his punchlines to jokes to where it is painfull to hear him try a joke. His career was about over until he started getting politicians as guest, because they were out of touch and as slow as him.




brightspot -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/12/2007 1:00:39 AM)

It should have happened many moons ago IMO.
I never could stand this guy [:'(]. 
Yippee!!![:)]
 
Missy.




anthrosub -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/12/2007 3:18:16 PM)

I'm not familiar with the history of Imus other than what I've read in the past few days.  I have watched his morning show on TV occasionally in the past year or so while getting dressed for work in the morning.  What I've seen is nothing compared to Howard Stern or how African Americans behave towards each other and other people on the streets and subways of DC.
 
Personally I have nothing against him or anybody else.  To me, this is essentially  a keystone event that parties on all sides are trying to capitalize on to further their own agenda.  And of course, there's the ever present issue of the big dollars.
 
As a child, I grew up in the late fifties through the sixties on air bases all over the country.  I had several friends who today call themselves African Americans (the term was unheard of back then...they simply called themselves black and nobody thought anything of it).  When I was 10 years old, my father was sent to Vietnam and we had to move off base.  I went to my first public school that year (1966).
 
One day during that year's summer vacation, my oldest sister and I went for a bike ride and took our bikes up to the elementary school.  As we were heading back, we encountered three black girls who turned out to be sisters.  They complimented me on my bicycle and asked if they could take it for a ride.  I said sure.
 
They rode it back to the school, around the front drive where the buses unloaded kids and returned.  One of them handed it back me saying how nice it was...and then two of them proceeded to rip the bike apart with their bare hands and tossed it down an embankment.  They then turned on my sister's bike.  We ran home and told my mother what had happened and she quickly got us in the car and we returned to where our bikes were.
 
We retrieved the bikes and as we were doing so, the girls returned and started calling us names like "White Trash."  At that point and for the first time, I used the "N" word.  It was a strange feeling but it felt justified.  Oddly enough, the one who did not attack our bikes came up to the window of the car and calmly told me I should not say things like that.  I was struck by her apparent sincerity.
 
Years later, after we had moved away and eventually returned to settle in the same city, we had further encounters with these girls in high school.  By that time, their sybling numbers had grown to 12.  They were commonly known as the Mayos (their last name).  They called dozens of bomb scares to the school forcing us to extend classes an extra month into the summer, they would walk down the halls with their arms linked together and block everyone from getting to their classes on time, and many other things.
 
Later on, the oldest of the family who by now was a young man, got involved in robberies, drugs, and eventually a rape and murder.  Most of the others also developed a violent crime filled history except the one daughter who years ago had spoken so calmly to me at the car.  She went on to college and I lost track of her.
 
Even later still, the entire family (and by now their extended families) converted to Islam, built a twelve foot fence around their property and began holding ritual ceremonies and huge bonfires in the backyard.  This created an eyesore for the community.  Then one night, a fire broke out in their home while everyone was sleeping and roughly one third of the family died in the fire.  They sued the city fire department claiming they took their time responding to the fire (they lost).  Three of the children who died were the offspring of the oldest son who was now serving time for murder.  He never got to see his kids.
 
Many times since then I have been assaulted by African Americans.  I watch them here in DC use terms worse then what Imus said all the time.  I could go on an recount stories of how they would criticize each other when one of them acts decently to a white person claiming they are "sucking up to the white man."  That happened to me twice.  In DC, there's also such thing as, "reverse discrimination."  White people have difficulty getting jobs or apartments where the area is largely African American.
 
Last week at an all women's college in Georgia, the question was asked of how many had had the same phrase Imus used applied to them.  They all raised their hands.  Then they were asked how many had used it themselves.  Again, they all raised their hands.  Oh by the way, where I currently work the population of employees is 80% African American.  We get along just fine.
 
The world of humanity is weird.  That's been my experience.
 
anthrosub




minnetar -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/12/2007 3:28:11 PM)

CBS fired him today also

minnetar




cyberdude611 -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/12/2007 3:39:38 PM)

America's founding fathers were right. The mob is just as dangerous to freedom and liberty as a monarchy.
This whole thing is proof of that.

Its obvious we live in an age where government is grown astronomically and no one gives a damn about freedom of speech anymore. Apparently in America you have freedom of speech, just as long as your speech isn't hateful, racist, sexist, anti-gay, anti-muslim, or anything that might hurt someone's feelings or offend someone. What a f-ing joke!

The unknown casulty in this whole mess no one is talking about is the kids with cancer. Imus was just starting an on-air campaign over the next few weeks to raise money for kids with cancer.




domiguy -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/12/2007 3:44:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: anthrosub

I'm not familiar with the history of Imus other than what I've read in the past few days.  I have watched his morning show on TV occasionally in the past year or so while getting dressed for work in the morning.  What I've seen is nothing compared to Howard Stern or how African Americans behave towards each other and other people on the streets and subways of DC.
 
Personally I have nothing against him or anybody else.  To me, this is essentially  a keystone event that parties on all sides are trying to capitalize on to further their own agenda.  And of course, there's the ever present issue of the big dollars.
 
As a child, I grew up in the late fifties through the sixties on air bases all over the country.  I had several friends who today call themselves African Americans (the term was unheard of back then...they simply called themselves black and nobody thought anything of it).  When I was 10 years old, my father was sent to Vietnam and we had to move off base.  I went to my first public school that year (1966).
 
One day during that year's summer vacation, my oldest sister and I went for a bike ride and took our bikes up to the elementary school.  As we were heading back, we encountered three black girls who turned out to be sisters.  They complimented me on my bicycle and asked if they could take it for a ride.  I said sure.
 
They rode it back to the school, around the front drive where the buses unloaded kids and returned.  One of them handed it back me saying how nice it was...and then two of them proceeded to rip the bike apart with their bare hands and tossed it down an embankment.  They then turned on my sister's bike.  We ran home and told my mother what had happened and she quickly got us in the car and we returned to where our bikes were.
 
We retrieved the bikes and as we were doing so, the girls returned and started calling us names like "White Trash."  At that point and for the first time, I used the "N" word.  It was a strange feeling but it felt justified.  Oddly enough, the one who did not attack our bikes came up to the window of the car and calmly told me I should not say things like that.  I was struck by her apparent sincerity.
 
Years later, after we had moved away and eventually returned to settle in the same city, we had further encounters with these girls in high school.  By that time, their sybling numbers had grown to 12.  They were commonly known as the Mayos (their last name).  They called dozens of bomb scares to the school forcing us to extend classes an extra month into the summer, they would walk down the halls with their arms linked together and block everyone from getting to their classes on time, and many other things.
 
Later on, the oldest of the family who by now was a young man, got involved in robberies, drugs, and eventually a rape and murder.  Most of the others also developed a violent crime filled history except the one daughter who years ago had spoken so calmly to me at the car.  She went on to college and I lost track of her.
 
Even later still, the entire family (and by now their extended families) converted to Islam, built a twelve foot fence around their property and began holding ritual ceremonies and huge bonfires in the backyard.  This created an eyesore for the community.  Then one night, a fire broke out in their home while everyone was sleeping and roughly one third of the family died in the fire.  They sued the city fire department claiming they took their time responding to the fire (they lost).  Three of the children who died were the offspring of the oldest son who was now serving time for murder.  He never got to see his kids.
 
Many times since then I have been assaulted by African Americans.  I watch them here in DC use terms worse then what Imus said all the time.  I could go on an recount stories of how they would criticize each other when one of them acts decently to a white person claiming they are "sucking up to the white man."  That happened to me twice.  In DC, there's also such thing as, "reverse discrimination."  White people have difficulty getting jobs or apartments where the area is largely African American.
 
Last week at an all women's college in Georgia, the question was asked of how many had had the same phrase Imus used applied to them.  They all raised their hands.  Then they were asked how many had used it themselves.  Again, they all raised their hands.  Oh by the way, where I currently work the population of employees is 80% African American.  We get along just fine.
 
The world of humanity is weird.  That's been my experience.
 
anthrosub


What a nice touching story...I grew up in Wisconsin, my high school had about 1700 kids all  but two were white....Everyone who pulled the fire alarms was white...The person that stole my bike was white...A girl I went to school with was murdered by a white guy....Almost every robbery, arson and murder were committed by whitey...Yet to this day they (whitey) don't seem to bother me much....So what's your point?

The reason that Imus was fired was not about whether people have heard worse on the street..We all have. It's about sponsors pulling their funding and also about the President of NBC looking at his employees and hearing them say, "he could have been talking about anyone of our daughters." 

These were not celebrities or people in the public eye...They were young woman enjoying what should have been an event that "was the time of their lives."  College students...And he ruined the moment...

I thing he got what he deserved...And hopefully others will learn from his mistake or way of thinking.




TheHeretic -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/12/2007 4:30:32 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

Apparently in America you have freedom of speech, just as long as your speech isn't hateful, racist, sexist, anti-gay, anti-muslim, or anything that might hurt someone's feelings or offend someone.




       Not true, Cyber.  You can say absolutely anything about conservatives.




domiguy -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/12/2007 4:47:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

America's founding fathers were right. The mob is just as dangerous to freedom and liberty as a monarchy.
This whole thing is proof of that.

Its obvious we live in an age where government is grown astronomically and no one gives a damn about freedom of speech anymore. Apparently in America you have freedom of speech, just as long as your speech isn't hateful, racist, sexist, anti-gay, anti-muslim, or anything that might hurt someone's feelings or offend someone. What a f-ing joke!

The unknown casulty in this whole mess no one is talking about is the kids with cancer. Imus was just starting an on-air campaign over the next few weeks to raise money for kids with cancer.


Imus has not lost his right of freedom of speech....He can still sit at home or go out in public and use any rascist terminology that crosses his little pea brain....What happened to Imus has nothing to do with his right to "free speech."

And I am sure you understand that.




domiguy -> RE: NBC News cancels MSNBC Imus simulcast (4/12/2007 4:51:28 PM)

quote:



ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

Apparently in America you have freedom of speech, just as long as your speech isn't hateful, racist, sexist, anti-gay, anti-muslim, or anything that might hurt someone's feelings or offend someone.



quote:

theHeretic

    Not true, Cyber.  You can say absolutely anything about conservatives.




Oh silly Heretic it is well known that you can blast away at each others party....But you do have to watch so you don't cross the line of using derogatory ethnic slurs when doing it.   Is that really too much to ask?




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