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proudsub -> selling used wedding rings (4/10/2007 2:59:10 PM)

Does anyone know a good way to get a decent price for a used wedding and engagement rings set. My daughter was only married 8 mo. and her rings cost him 5K.  She wants to sell them.  We have checked with a few stores and the best offer was an $800 credit at the store.  We've looked at Ebay and they don't seem to be moving well, but that still might be the best option.  I don't know what a pawn shop would give her. Maybe no one wants to buy used ones from a bad marraige.[:o]




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/10/2007 3:00:33 PM)

She could try and sell the diamond separately from the band? Or resetting the stone in a new ring for herself?

Otherwise I wouldn't know.  I wouldn't have a problem buying a used ring, but wedding rings tend to be very personalized.




LaTigresse -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/10/2007 3:58:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: proudsub

Does anyone know a good way to get a decent price for a used wedding and engagement rings set. My daughter was only married 8 mo. and her rings cost him 5K.  She wants to sell them.  We have checked with a few stores and the best offer was an $800 credit at the store.  We've looked at Ebay and they don't seem to be moving well, but that still might be the best option.  I don't know what a pawn shop would give her. Maybe no one wants to buy used ones from a bad marraige.[:o]


As LA said, her best option is to keep the diamond and reset it. What the ex paid for it and what it is worth are two vastly different dollar amounts. Jewelry is one of the highest markup items sold.  Unless of course you buy from an inside person and get a very good deal.

If she does want to sell it.......It is very likely that the melee'(smaller diamonds) if there are any, have any real value with the primarly large diamond being the star. She should also dig out the paperwork that accompanied the pieces so that she has the exact carat weight, color, cut and clarity of the stones and the appraisal, available for any potential buyer. Hopefully she had an independent appraisal done for insurance purposes.




Zensee -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/10/2007 3:59:50 PM)

She should have it melted down and made into a portable bullshit detector.




ownedgirlie -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/10/2007 5:24:30 PM)

Can she take it to a jeweler for a "trade in" type of deal?  Maybe even the one it was purchased from?

I have a full set of emeralds - necklace, earrings and tennis bracelett - from my ex and I thought of bringing it to a jeweler friend to see if he can redesign it - maybe set the stones into something else...or maybe take them in trade for something else.   If not, Ebay may be the way to go...

You may want to get it appraised to find its value first.  Jewelry store mark ups are rather extreme.




domiguy -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/10/2007 5:54:30 PM)

Unless the stone is something extraordinary...the value  is in the precious metal....Diamonds are priced on mostly bullshit...There is no exchange, they are not a truly valuable commodity ...But the gold or platinum that they are set in does have value...So a nice setting and cubic zirconia is the way to go....Isn't that romantic!!!




soultoshare -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/10/2007 5:55:57 PM)

DON'T pawn them!  You'll get exactly ZIP for them....i got a whopping $80 when I pawned my $800 solitaire.

Getting the diamond reset is probably the best idea, unless she really doesn't want any kind of reminder of the guy.  I've seen lots of ads placed in papers also....not sure how they are doing, but there's always that option too.  Also, some stores do offer the opportunity to trade the set in, but a more reputable one would certainly give you more than $800 store credit on a 5K set.  Try going back to the store where it was purchased at.

Good luck.




proudsub -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/10/2007 8:32:51 PM)

Thanks for the replies and suggestions.  Both rings have many small diamonds and the engagement ring has a larger princess cut center stone.  She has all the specs on them.  I had suggested she reset the diamonds in a custom piece but she said she didn't want to keep anything to do with him. I'm thinking ebay might be worth a try with a minimum price set.




darchChylde -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/10/2007 9:24:55 PM)

yeah, i've found that there is often a suoerstition of misfortune attached to wedding bands from a failed marriage, since pawn shops only price their purchases by weight, you'll never get a decent return on the investment

i'd recommend swallowing the loss and place the rings in an envelope in the attic and only bring them out when considering marriage again, use them as a reminder of one of the more minor consequences when dreams go south

i don't mean to discourage remarrying, just that many people don't consider the real life consequences of investing in a dream




SusanofO -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/11/2007 1:18:06 AM)

proudsub: Skip the pawn shop option. 25% of value is about all you're going to get, and that's a high estiamte, IMO. You can do much, much better. Read on.

Try Googling the words: Selling used diamonds - on the internet. You will find lots of wholesale diamond brokers, and jewelers that may (and do) buy them.

However - I'd only attempt to sell to one that also has a street address, a land-line phone and of course who looks like they've been in business awhile, but many of these places are very legit, and some claim to give you a fast turn-around (like a week, or less).

Here are a few I found:

www.47thstreetdiamondexchange.com (this one is in  NYC, in the diamond district)

There are many listings on the net, of places to sell diamonds. Many appear to be reputable, and in business for years, and offer testimonials, references, a satisfaction guarantee, etc. Some of course are probably not (just like off the net.) 

Then I found these (I am not necessarily vouching for these particular sellers, they just came up when I Googled): www.bullock.com

and diamondsfordollars.com

1) *Most (if not all) of the listed internet diamond buyers will require you insure your diamond, via whatever mail method you choose, when you send it (Fed-Ex, etc. I mean sending insured mail, of course packaged carefully - ask them  how they want it sent, a far as particular instructions or recommendations)

2) Before you mail it to them, they will give you a written quote (via fax or e-mail) of what they'll pay you for it, based on their questions regarding an appraisal of your diamnd (and you'll need your own independent appraisal of your diamond, to be able answer their questions).

3) Most claim to stick with this quote, once they receive your diamond. Most require the diamond be close to a carat (or more) for them to be interested in buying it, but the buyer's criteria does vary, so of course check.

4) Then they mail you a check for whatever they've quoted you as far as their buying price (unless it has some big flaw you did not disclose upfront, etc), within a day or two, usually.

That seems to be the usual procedure I've read about re: These internet diaomond brokers and buyers. Ask them more questions about the process, if you'd feel safer that way, of course.  

5)  Make your asking price whatever you think you want for the diamond, that's close to your appraisal of the ring's value. You are never going to receive what the price of it was when it was new, of course.

**I'd say 60-80% of its appraised value would be a fair exchange, but you be the judge  - you know what you can live with, and this transaction is very situational. Also, some jewlers inflate the on-paper appraisal to begin with, IMO.

6) Make your asking price slightly higher than you think absolutely need, or think is the bottom-line price you would accept (then they can dicker with you, and you can bet they probably will, at least a little).

7) *You'll definitely need to go into the transaction having had an on paper, verifiable, independent appraisal as to cut, clarity, etc. If you don't, it will be difficult to sell your diamond (sorry to repeat myself).

8) A good jeweler, or jewelry repair place, can tell you where to obtain a decent appraisal, if you don't already have one. I think they cost about $150 - mine came with my engagement ring, and I kept it - but it's easy enough to get one done. 

You might also Google the words - diamond brokers,  and  - whoelsale diamond buyers, and see what comes up.

I haven't done this yet, but am considering it, as there is no reason for me to really keep my engagement ring, plus I ahve some diamond earrings I never wear, too.
(I am always paranoid they will fall off, and I'll lose them). Good luck.

- Susan




SusanofO -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/11/2007 2:53:12 AM)

The nice thing about there being so many internet diamond brokers and buyers, is that if you don't like the price you're being offerred, tell them you need a day or two to think on it, and just check out what someone else will pay you instead.

**In fact, since they are in the driver's seat as far as sending you a quote and an offer, I'd start out dealing w/several at once, and go w/ the most reponsive buyer, or the one with the best offer. Otherwise the waiting and possible response time, as far as them sending you a bona-fide offer to buy, after they quote you a price (if these turn out to not be one and the same thing) may make it possibly frustrating for you (but maybe not. Just a suggestion. I'd put myself in control here as much as possible).

But if you do this, don't mail your diamond, if you're not happy with the quoted offer - once you do, that is most probably what you'll be paid, and post-mailing dickering is probably not going to go anywhere, IMO. 

Once you mail it off, you lose a lot of your bargaining power, IMO - although they are obligated to stick w/their quote, barring some unforseen, extenuating circumstance - (and make sure you've got their quote on paper, or on a print-out from a site listing they sent, or a fax - somehow on paper). 

Usually, they seem to think just mailing the entire ring is acceptable (and they'll give you something for the gold or platinum in any ring, or whatever, but it probably won't be much - what they want is the diamond.)

*Remember, insuring your diamond when you mail it (via insured mail) is your protection against any shenanigans on the part of the buyer - but many do seem legit to me (and I did talk to two by phone - I just haven't done any business w/ any of them yet. I've been distracted w/other stuff). 

Of course, you need to be realistic as far as your asking price (*50, 60-80% of original selling price is a fair trade, IMO, Or - *60-80% of the price of an independent appraisal (the original seller's appraisal - as opposed to an independent one -can be inflated up to 35%, IMO, but - it all depends, I think this can be highly situational). 

*But of course you can experiment, and ask for more, and just see what happens, too - it's not like there is a shortage of possible buyers (from the looks of things). 

P.S. proudsub: Will you let me know if you (or she) end up doing this? I am seriously considering it, too. Thanks. if I do it soon, I'll let you know as well.

- Susan 




LaTigresse -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/11/2007 3:47:23 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

Unless the stone is something extraordinary...the value  is in the precious metal....Diamonds are priced on mostly bullshit...There is no exchange, they are not a truly valuable commodity ...But the gold or platinum that they are set in does have value...So a nice setting and cubic zirconia is the way to go....Isn't that romantic!!!


Never a more true statement said on this site. In the gem world, diamonds are the single more over inflated item there is with most diamonds in traditional jewelry stores, being worth only a fraction of what they are sold for.  Some man made diamonds are actually worth more based simply upon the technology to create them. When asked about diamonds for investment or high end jewelry I always advice a coloured stone instead, unless the person has over 6 figures to invest in a truely spectacular unique stone. Diamonds do not have real value until they reach a rare size, colour, and are flawless. Not your traditional jewelry store fare. Otherwise it is like buying a car or dozen red roses on valentines day, an expensive indulgence that depreciates dramatically the moment it walks out the door. Except they depreciate even more than the car...........




SusanofO -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/11/2007 3:52:50 AM)

I am replacing my diamond earrings w/cubic zirconia, because I think it's more practical. I am scared to wear the real ones, scared I'll lose them, they'll fall off (they are not pierced) etc. This seems a waste to me, and IMO good cubic zirconia looks (to me) exactly like the real thing anyway.

- Susan 




SusanofO -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/11/2007 6:40:06 AM)

proudsub: I've just convinced myself to look in to this more (internet diamond selling), in the next 2 weeks. I'll keep you updated.

- Susan




stockingluvr54 -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/11/2007 9:01:09 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy

Unless the stone is something extraordinary...the value  is in the precious metal....Diamonds are priced on mostly bullshit...There is no exchange, they are not a truly valuable commodity ...But the gold or platinum that they are set in does have value...So a nice setting and cubic zirconia is the way to go....Isn't that romantic!!!


Never a more true statement said on this site. In the gem world, diamonds are the single more over inflated item there is with most diamonds in traditional jewelry stores, being worth only a fraction of what they are sold for.  Some man made diamonds are actually worth more based simply upon the technology to create them. When asked about diamonds for investment or high end jewelry I always advice a coloured stone instead, unless the person has over 6 figures to invest in a truely spectacular unique stone. Diamonds do not have real value until they reach a rare size, colour, and are flawless. Not your traditional jewelry store fare. Otherwise it is like buying a car or dozen red roses on valentines day, an expensive indulgence that depreciates dramatically the moment it walks out the door. Except they depreciate even more than the car...........



I completely agree with both posts!  Diamonds are a rip if you ever try and resell. If and when I buy jewelry for a woman..she gets raw gold nugget on a gold chain and that's about it. Number one...I like raw gold and number two....it's always worth spot at any coin dealer or jewelry dealer and it's liquid. If she doesn't like gold...too bad. I'd rather loose some dough on gold (if she decided to ever sell) than throw it away on a rock of some sort. (gold jewelry...bad investment....rocks ...terrible investment).  But that's just me.......




popeye1250 -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/11/2007 9:30:45 AM)

Jewelers are all about SELLING diamonds not BUYING them.
And diamonds are not really "precious" stones.
It's illegal to pick them up off the ground in S. Africa and other countries. There are so many diamonds that they could pave every street in Europe's capital cities with them.
That whole diamond thing is just a marketing ploy by the De Beers Co.
I wouldn't spend any money buying diamonds.
If you want a "precious" stone buy a sapphire, emerald or ruby.
Those are rare unlike diamonds.




pahunkboy -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/11/2007 10:22:01 AM)

his and her tattoos would be a fun idea.  some people get all excited about jewerly. i can take my tattoo w me when i die.




sub4hire -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/11/2007 10:45:22 AM)

No idea about the diamond selling.  I'm sorry to hear your daughters marriage broke up.  I know how
hard you worked on it.  How much it meant to all of you.




MstrssPassion -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/11/2007 10:53:57 AM)

common sentiment: often I have heard that the negative energy of the failed union is carried over somehow to that material symbol of it

I've heard countless stories from pawn brokers on why they won't buy ring sets & when they do they only offer the value of the stone & weight of the setting... most times these items a sold at that cost & reworked into a new piece

The actual cost of jewelry is on workmanship & the material value is substantially less... in other words you will never receive the retail investment back on jewelry in a resale situation & depreciation is far worse than that of buying a car, driving it off a lot & pulling back in to resale it. (same day or 8 months down the road)

best thing she can do if she actually has posession of this & he isn't attempting to regain ownership (ever watch court tv?) is to pay to have the stone reset into something she can wear. Not many people walk away from a failed 8 month marriage with 5K in assets

Also, where was it bought? Some Jewelers offer a lifetime upgrade on jewlery... this of course means an additional investment but maybe it could be seen as a downpayment on another piece or maybe a different set if & when she decides to get married again.... just a thought




maybemaybenot -> RE: selling used wedding rings (4/11/2007 11:50:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SusanofO

I am replacing my diamond earrings w/cubic zirconia, because I think it's more practical. I am scared to wear the real ones, scared I'll lose them, they'll fall off (they are not pierced) etc. This seems a waste to me, and IMO good cubic zirconia looks (to me) exactly like the real thing anyway.

- Susan 


Susan: That is exactly what I did a few years back. I am a self admitted diamond/jewelry slut and wear them on my fingers,  neck and wrist daily. But I found, despite having pierced ears I have lost a few too many diamond earings. No one knows the difference and they look great.
I also own quite a few nice CZ's and lab created saphires. I have gotten more compliments on my * fake* saphires* than I have my other real stones.

                    mbmbn




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