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FelinePersuasion -> The jittery shakes after a hyper active episode. (4/5/2007 10:34:27 PM)

 I got all hyperactive which turned to stress cause I knocked something over on accident which ruined two of my small projects, and then I couldn't find something important then in the process of searching, more stuff knocked over and now I just feel jittery and shakey and I am laying calmly in bed but the jittery wired feeling won't go away. I am thinking maybe some hot tea, I know, tea has cafien in it, but cafien really doesn't affect me.



Termyn8or -> RE: The jittery shakes after a hyper active episode. (4/5/2007 10:52:20 PM)

Cut out anything with sugar.

T



FelinePersuasion -> RE: The jittery shakes after a hyper active episode. (4/5/2007 11:09:47 PM)

termy, it's not from sugar, I haven't had any, I am one of the kinds of people who shoot off into a very manic high  when excited,  * like planning a project*or over stimulated, and when the high wears off or I get cranky or stressed I am left feeling shaken and jittery.



soultoshare -> RE: The jittery shakes after a hyper active episode. (4/6/2007 12:28:48 AM)

actually, what it sounds like was an anxiety attack.  I get them with NO warning whatsoever, and contrary to what the name implies, it has nothing to do with being anxious....I've been awakened from a sound sleep with one!  I've yet to get one when I'm stressed, nervous or anything but normal.  They have physical symptoms including an accelerated heartbeat....mine goes up to about 130-140 bpm, hyperventilation, feeling of numbness areound the mouth or facial area, and probably the worst feeling is that of bugs crawling on your skin.  Not all people get all the symptoms i've mentioned above, and there are others also.  What happens to cause all of this is that adrenaline is suddenly released into your bloodstream, triggering a "fight or flight" response.  The longest attack i've ever had was about 16 hours.....when it was over, i felt like i'd ran a 100k race...my muscles were literaly rubber.  Going to sleep didn't even help it.  I've found that they key to stopping an attack is to recignize one coming, breathe in deep an hold my breath until my heartrate goes back to normal.  I repeat it until it works, but there are occasions that it doesn't.  I just double up my anti-depressant, and fall asleep.  (My dr gets so crazy when I mention that i'm self-medicating, but I know what works!)  Since i never get them at times that you think i would, i have no idea what triggers them....the 16 hr one started when i bent over to pick up my shoe, and straightened up.

Usually, i just ride them out, and finding something to distract me from it occuring seems to help also.  Caffeine and sugar have no effect as far as causing one.....trust me, i mainline the first, and have to avoid the second from diabetes.

Anyway, just an idea here.....hopefully, it won't be something that becomes a habit.  I never had prolems with them until the last 10 years or so, so they can start anytime.

m



windchymes -> RE: The jittery shakes after a hyper active episode. (4/6/2007 6:25:38 AM)

It's because your body just shot a bunch of adrenalin into its system, which causes rapid heartbeat, shakiness, jittery feelings.  Ever hear of "fight or flight" syndrome?  Ever hear of a mother suddenly having super-human strength because her child was trapped under a car or some other heavy object and she is able to lift it to rescue her child, but later on, could not?  It's adrenalin giving her that sudden temporary strength.  Or if you are suddenly terrified by something, like almost being hit by a car, and your heart suddenly races and you get all jittery for awhile afterwards?  Same thing.

It's a normal reaction to extreme stress, and there's nothing you can really do to counteract it except wait for it to wear off.  You might be able to take relaxation classes, like those given in Lamaze classes for natural childbirth, which teach you how to relax yourself.  (Focusing on some object, breathing deeply and rhythmically, imagining yourself in a "happy place") That might help you get back normal sooner.



FelinePersuasion -> RE: The jittery shakes after a hyper active episode. (4/6/2007 10:21:32 PM)

I'm also diagnosed as bipolar, or manic depressive which that title I don't claim, because I do fly into mania's when over stimulated or excited, but I do not go into depressive from flying into those mania's. There are sometimes I am depressed ish, but they're always seperate episodes unrelated to mania's. I get so hyper and so jazzed and I fly about unable to concentrate really at all, and that mania exhausts me  or I am stressed because in this manic state I l oose things and I don't know where it went, and it's right there, and yeah sometimes accidents happen like spilling my craft water, or I am so tired of  this activity I have emotionally worn out and I am still manic but now I am kind of grumpy too cause I just wanna calm down and be still, and of course I can't just be still when I am in a mania, nor do I feel able to relax because the jitteryness feelings left behind.

I thought perhaps something warm to drink coco or tea, light weight Cafine, like tea and soda has no real affect on me, now however I used to think no cafine did, and then I had cascade brand coffe, and it was some strong ass shit, I had 5 sample c ups an then about 4 mor emouthfulls later, whoooooooo was I off the wall!!!

so yeah now i clarify lightweight cafine = zero affect, In fact coffe's like vienna internation house caramels make me sleepy and content.

PS I also do not feel I need medication for this diagnosis because it's not so extream it's detremental and I believe for me to be on meds it has to be a bigger problem than this is.



hisannabelle -> RE: The jittery shakes after a hyper active episode. (4/6/2007 10:28:46 PM)

greetings,

i get these kinds of feelings when i have panic/anxiety attacks, and also because i have hypomanic episodes (although i am not diagnosed manic-depressive, it's something we're looking out for), and when my blood sugar drops. i also have very little reaction to normal or even high end of normal doses of caffeine.

really, the only thing i can do for mine is to eat something small, preferably a snack including a good carb (like whole wheat something, anything that breaks down slowly and doesn't go straight to sugar in the body), a protein, and some fresh fruit/veggies. usually that helps, because it gets your blood sugar in check and reduces the risk of blood sugar droppage, which also affects shakiness...although i've found often that doing this even when the shakiness is completely unrelated to blood sugar (is due to anxiety or something) seems to help. then i try to breathe slowly and calmly, and do as much in the way of relaxation techniques as i can. generally if i can slow my heart rate, the shakiness also calms down some. if none of that helps, it's just a matter of waiting for it to pass and trying not to be too active while it does (i usually tend to bump into things, become disoriented, etc. when i'm shaky).

i'd recommend asking your psychiatrist or your gp for advice. this doesn't always mean medication, although medication that can deal with some other difficult symptoms and effects may also help with this, which is always good.

annabelle.



FelinePersuasion -> RE: The jittery shakes after a hyper active episode. (4/6/2007 10:42:50 PM)

annabell I also read somewhere that people with bipolar and things like adhd are not affected by cafine in a " normal" way. so maybe it's why light weight caffine don't have effects on me.



hisannabelle -> RE: The jittery shakes after a hyper active episode. (4/6/2007 10:49:42 PM)

feline,

for me, it's just that i have a ridiculously high tolerance for it. i used to be addicted to stackers with ephedra, which means that i now have to take a few no-doz to even get any sort of caffeine buzz at all. i'm not sure if it's also in part related to anxiety and mania for me, but i know that a very large part of it is my tolerance for it.

annabelle.



Griswold -> RE: The jittery shakes after a hyper active episode. (4/6/2007 10:58:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

I got all hyperactive which turned to stress cause I knocked something over on accident which ruined two of my small projects, and then I couldn't find something important then in the process of searching, more stuff knocked over and now I just feel jittery and shakey and I am laying calmly in bed but the jittery wired feeling won't go away. I am thinking maybe some hot tea, I know, tea has cafien in it, but cafien really doesn't affect me.


(I'm assuming there was a question?)



hisannabelle -> RE: The jittery shakes after a hyper active episode. (4/6/2007 11:04:27 PM)

greetings griswold,

i believe the question was something along the lines of how to deal with shaking after a hyperactive episode, or how individual posters deal with it.

annabelle.

p.s. feline, hope you don't mind me posting this.



soultoshare -> RE: The jittery shakes after a hyper active episode. (4/6/2007 11:36:26 PM)

Feline, please don't think i'm being overbearing, but if you have been medically diagnosed with bipolar disease, you really might want to think about medication to even your moods out.  For almost 40 years, i unknowingly dealt with depression caused by a chemical imbalance in my brain.  I finally melted down, and went to a doc....he put me on an anti-anxiety drug and an anti-deressant. I dropped the anti-anxiety drug about 6 months after i started it, we determined that i didn't really need it, however, i will NEVER give up my anti-depressant.  I refuse to go back to the angry, unbearable person i once was.  I could fly into a rage literally at the drop of a hat...the sticker that says "I go from 0 to Bitch in 3.2 seconds" described me to a tee.  If the computer was too slow, or the radio was cutting out, or my officers were just brain-farting, that's all it took for me to start throwing things, yelling at inanimate machines, and take my feelings out on my friends and co-workers.  The difference was noticed immediately, not only by me, but everyone around me.  It is a maintenance drug that i will take forever, just like my synthroid and diabetes medication.

There is no longer much of a negative connotation about depression, bi-polar or other mental health diseases that people suffer.  Misdiagnosis is the biggest culprit.....imagine how surprised i was when i fond out my mom and sister had been taking zoloft for YEARS!  Other docs i had seen had written it off to PMS......me being female and all....but this was unbearable.

Of course, the decision about medication is yours to make, but really, discuss it with your doctor...there is help available, and to suffer from any of the symptoms is needless.  Good luck with whatever you decide.



Sinergy -> RE: The jittery shakes after a hyper active episode. (4/6/2007 11:56:41 PM)

Adrenalin is a funny beast.

It is actually a cocktail of about 30 or so different hormones which flood into the bloodstream to do different things.  Like cut off blood flow (generally) to the brain, send it to the muscles and lungs.

When the adrenal stressor passes, the body has to start secreting other hormones to turn off these other hormones.  The most well known of these is cortisol.  Cortisol tends to be really hard on internal organs and causes a lot of damage to tissue.

So I am at a party with a friend who has a PhD in Neurophysiology and I ask him "Dude, is there really something which I would refer to as an adrenalin hangover?"

He looks at me and goes "Of course!" and proceeds to give me a dissertation on how to deal with it.

Drink lots of water.  Dilutes the cortisol in the bloodstream.

Breathe a lot.  Oxygenation allows the body to metabolize the substances.

Adrenalin freaks out the vagus (the one that controls internal organs) nerve.  You need to calm it down.  There are a lot of ways to do this, but the one that works for me is a shot or two of alcohol, followed by plenty of sleep.

If your adrenalin reaction is not caused by external stressors, than perhaps you should consult a psychiatrist because the brain will do what it needs to do to keep itself in the chemical soup it is used to.  If this chemical soup is adrenalin nuttiness, guess what life is going to be like.  Antidepressants can get the brain used to not floating in adrenalin and nuttiness and allow it to relearn how to deal with life not under adrenal stress.

Sinergy



FelinePersuasion -> RE: The jittery shakes after a hyper active episode. (4/7/2007 12:17:39 AM)

I don't mind it annabell.

soultoshare, if I had sever problems or the mania's ruined my life, or made me fly into rages then yeah I'd be on meds, but honestly I am much happier off them. I'm a very loving very happy person in general, the meds didn't do that I did. It's me and my personality. I have always been an extreamly loving kind outgoing person. Some people need meds to make them better, that's understandable, however If I understood percentages enough to make a statement about them, I'd say for me to want medication it'd have to be either life threatening, or it'd have to control about 50 percent of my life.My mania's are like a 3 percent part of my life, My mania's are annoying because i become like a whireling dirvish of energy, but they're not enough to go on meds for. in my mind.

edited to add, so drink water, have a snack, practice breathing? All good suggestions for relaxing the jitters.



Sinergy -> RE: The jittery shakes after a hyper active episode. (7/12/2007 12:18:04 AM)

 
Did a class tonight.

Got savagely kicked by one of the men after the fight was over (the whistle was blown) that allowed me to
see stars.  I could be upset, but I was protecting myself when it happened so its no big deal.

Except for the adrenalin.  I think tonight is a night I will be painting my house until 3am.  Have to get up early in the morning.

Some nights I really hate adrenalin.

Sinergy



farglebargle -> RE: The jittery shakes after a hyper active episode. (7/12/2007 3:28:54 AM)

quote:

like those given in Lamaze classes for natural childbirth


Bradley kicks Lamaze's ass!

also, Mindfulness meditation, and Anusara Yoga.




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