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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/4/2007 7:16:29 PM

juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: stella40

Okay, so what are the criteria here?

Does this include switches?

So what about the women who are submissive to their Doms but Dommes with other subs?

What about the people who are dominant or submissive but don't realise it?

What about the people who claim to be dominant but aren't?

The submissives who claim to be submissive but aren't?

The men who pretend to be submissive just to get laid?

Is this really important? Why?

Because in most cases it is ONE Dominant and ONE submissive together in a relationship (unless you have a stable, you're professional, you're poly, etc).

This is why a venn diagram is more useful than a pie chart... see?

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/4/2007 7:31:52 PM

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I bow to the Venn diagram.

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/4/2007 8:54:02 PM

Archer

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Most likely place to find actual researched ratios would be in Different Loving Gloria Brames book from the 90's although dated the odds are pretty good you'll find the ratios likely hold true.

I recall the M sub to F Dom ratio being something like 20 to 1 But I don't recall the other ratios.

Edited because the order of the ratio was backwards the first time

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/4/2007 9:34:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: angelic

i think there are more male doms than submissives. In my somewhat cynical opinion:

Scenario:
Two or three guys with their dicks out standing in a row pissing... one says to the other "Dude this broad I been dating... man oh man... she wants me to spank her and... Dude, she loves rough sex. She says there is this whole plethera of women who really want this... oh and and Dude, she says some even want us to have more than one broad! Where do I sign up?"

and poof~~

The only way in which I'd even begin to find this idea as having some validity is if the two or three guys are pissing on four or six bonded and gagged girls.

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/4/2007 9:38:18 PM

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Harsh, for the male subs.

I'm.. badly.. unable to understand why someone wouldn't want to be dominant. Why aren't more women all, "Get on your knees and please me, man-whore!"? I mean, seriously, I have straight males applying to be slaves to me for lack of Domme's.

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/4/2007 9:40:00 PM

MzMia

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CuriousLord, I would question if all those applicants are really submissive's or kinky men
lookiing for fun and thrills, most I would bet the farm are bottoms {at best}.

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/4/2007 10:13:50 PM

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i think it is futile to speculate as there is no way of knowing without getting official statistics from the site. No way to guess based on who responds in the forums either.

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/4/2007 10:50:54 PM

petdave

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ORIGINAL: stella40
The men who pretend to be submissive just to get laid?

Men pretending to be submissive to get laid??

My guess would be that they're smoking so much dope that they've already started nibbling on the pie chart.

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/4/2007 11:02:00 PM

boltaction

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quote:

ORIGINAL: angelic

i think there are more male doms than submissives. In my somewhat cynical opinion:

Scenario:
Two or three guys with their dicks out standing in a row pissing... one says to the other "Dude this broad I been dating... man oh man... she wants me to spank her and... Dude, she loves rough sex. She says there is this whole plethera of women who really want this... oh and and Dude, she says some even want us to have more than one broad! Where do I sign up?"

and poof~~

That's funny... when I came out to my friends they pretty much said the same thing. Ha!

In The New Bottoming Book and The New Topping Book it was mentioned that there are more female subs to male doms, but that number has very recently begun to change with the younger generation.

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/5/2007 12:02:44 AM

CuriousLord

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

CuriousLord, I would question if all those applicants are really submissive's or kinky men
lookiing for fun and thrills, most I would bet the farm are bottoms {at best}.

I'm quite sure you would be correct in saying that none of them were actually submissive men, MzMia. I'm a straight male, after all; they're female. (What's life if you can't get a tease in every now and then?)

The "applicants" would've been far more numerous than reported if I didn't filter for those who weren't.. serious. When I said those who were applying, I meant those who didn't run off after I ordered them to write an essay on why they wished to become a slave, along with all personal information (including full name, address, phone numbers, SSN, any major Internet account/passwords, etc.).

I had never before, nor since, had so many come to me over wanting to be a slave in such a short time period. I added things to the personal information requirements, along with the essays and such, as initial processing- before I even got to know the girls- just to screen out the ones who weren't very serious about being a slave. It was a luxury I enjoyed for the time.

To complete the story, I did away with almost all of them. Actually, going into this time period, I already had two slaves. I no longer control either of the orginial two, and did away with all but one of the additional four. All the remaining applications were either rejected or lost interest not too long after, save one, who is still petitioning me, despite being rejected. (She's persistent, but I doublt she'd be happy as a slave. She's far more of a sub, and I feel she would be happier with a Dom. I believe she agrees on this point, though she's unable to find a Dom, or even another Master, and anxious for her 'fix'.)

It's a happy story, though. My new slave is.. well. The last two were heartache and trouble at many turns. This one.. she makes me happy. She's so much of what I wanted. While I consider myself to be still accepting others, I doubt I will ever be hurting for another so long as I have this one.

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/5/2007 6:39:13 AM

BayouSub

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quote:

Harsh, for the male subs.

I'm.. badly.. unable to understand why someone wouldn't want to be dominant. Why aren't more women all, "Get on your knees and please me, man-whore!"? I mean, seriously, I have straight males applying to be slaves to me for lack of Domme's.

The Domme/Sub ratio is harsh for male subs. That’s just reality and must be accepted. This is probably a good thing because it allows Dommes to be very demanding and isn’t that what we submissive males want? (I think some go overboard in their demands but that’s another post.)

Frankly, I think there is also a shortage of dominant males for submissive females although I would think the ratio is not nearly as bad. I would guess that most submissive women eventually find a dominant but this is not true for submissive men.

CuriousLord, you can’t figure why anyone wouldn’t want to be dominant. Personally, I don’t think it’s a choice for most of us. If the ratio were the other way around, could you choose to be submissive? A number of years ago, because of the ratio and other reasons, I decided to switch and become a dominant but I just could not pull it off. Like an electron in an unstable orbit, I kept returning to my submissive side. As Popeye said "I am what I am and that’s all that I am." I’m wired this way and that’s the hand that life dealt me and I’m determined to enjoy it. I’m old enough to realize that being "normal" isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.

As to straight males becoming slaves to other males for lack of Dommes - well, we men are adaptable creatures when it comes to things related to sexuality. Prison sex between males is a good example - men engage in it only so long as they are incarcerated and seperated from females. Necessity is the mother of invention. Submissive men want to submit. Once you get over that "but he’s a guy" thing, it really becomes no big deal. If you think about it, men submit to other men every day in the work world. Men who brown nose their male bosses get what they deserve...a promotion! I personally prefer submitting to women but I also enjoy submitting to a very dominant man.

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/5/2007 6:43:18 AM

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On either side quantity certainly doesn't equate to quality...which in my opinion is slim picking's no matter the kink or gender...

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/5/2007 7:15:27 AM

Dnomyar

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I hope that it is a coconut cream pie. As far as some Doms attracting women and others not any. It is all in preception. Your either precieved as someone they want to get to know better or as a jerk. I want to get to know the person as a whole. Some want to get to know the person as a hole.

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/5/2007 8:11:55 AM

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I would have to agree that there are more female subs than male doms. I've also noticed a larger number of male doms over 45 and a limited number of male doms under 35.

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/5/2007 8:13:52 AM

SirDiscipliner69

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I would say there are more male subs than female Dommes

I would also say there are more wannabe subbies than qualified doms

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Have some sympathy, and some taste
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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/5/2007 8:17:21 AM

Missokyst

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Umm... does this mean there won't be any pie?

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ORIGINAL: spanklette

I bow to the Venn diagram.

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/5/2007 8:30:31 AM

juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I would have to agree that there are more female subs than male doms. I've also noticed a larger number of male doms over 45 and a limited number of male doms under 35.

I think you would also notice a lot more submissives over 35 than under 35 also.

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/5/2007 8:37:10 AM

azzmaster

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i run in2 subs complaining about a lack of doms, doms complainin about a lack of subs... i think its just like vanilla life where men complain theres no good women and vice versa... i think it more is not the lack of supply but the lack of ones that appeal

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/5/2007 9:43:23 AM

spanklette

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How about we have cake while we examine the Venn diagram?

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RE: Doms vs. subs: Ratios - 4/5/2007 9:47:45 AM

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I agree with julia. I see a lot more women subs over 35. It seems a lot of women come around to this lifestyle later in life.I think most of it has to do with family issues. I would post a question on it but I have been put in the corner.

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