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Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 9:57:22 AM

NightWindWhisper

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I am constantly amazed at the number of scammers that show up as new members. I imagine that all of them originate from one source. That source is foreign and frequently one finds odd Russian sounding names. The object is to win your heart, and then "Oh--I would come, but my mother needs...." Never, ever send anyone money. Western Union requests are a red flag of fraud. Never send a regular plane ticket. If you do send a ticket buy one specially non-refundable. You'll lose your money, but they won't gain a year's pay.

How to tell? Here's an example that was listed today.

Firstly the purported address is St. Loius, Minnesota (It's Louis)

The lady is purported to be 6' 1" and her weight is listed as 135lbs This gives her a BMI (Body Mass Index) of 17%. Now if she was a leat weight lifter, ok. But the picture does not convey a ripped, or an anorexic aspect.

Now, if you look at the full profile generally there will be nothing written. These people cannot write normal English, even if they consider themselves fluent. One sees a lot of stuff like "I want loved to be..." If there is stuff written and it's a scam, at least with the ones that I see (about 4-6 a week) you can tell. It's not just bad writing, it's improper use of words.

One of the most glaring clues is: Ethnicity: Native American

Russians, Yugoslavians, etc. think that everyone here (excepting themselves) is a native american, and we are. We were born here. But we know this means a person whose family lived here before Chris Columbus visited. The historic title was commonly "Indian." But to these people Indians are those who live in India, so they get confused. They are so confused that almost always "Native American" equals fraud. Note, I said "almost."

Actively seeking: This is an odd category, but usually indicative, sometimes they seek everything and everything doesn't make sense.

Lastly: Look at the full profile photo. Since they were ripped from another site, and since sites often put up minimal quality photos to prevent theft, these photos when enlarged a bit look weird....blurry with a rippled effect.

I've never heard of women being scammed, I don't know why... anyone else know of any going on?

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 9:59:43 AM

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I usually look at the interests, and when it is merry go round rides instead of sucking my dick I drop them like last nights newspaper

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 10:07:50 AM

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quote:

I've never heard of women being scammed, I don't know why

Because we don't fall for such silliness?

Seriously, people of all genders get scammed and usually because they are not paying attention to all the things that are not adding up. There are so many warnings about it, I can't understand how anyone does fall for it on sites like this.

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 11:40:01 AM

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Honestly the native american thing would get me as well. There arent a hell of a lot of full blooded true native americans left ('indians') geneside tends to do that you know!! and for some reason you see a lot of them here... I dont know leads one to think eather BDSM is genetic for native americans or OMG could it be a scam?? Just my opinions and thoughts.

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 12:51:20 PM

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I was informed last week that I'd won the British U.K. Lottery.
Imagine my distress when I was informed that they would "Gazzetted" my money after they received my "information."
I wrote them back; "NO! NO! NO! do not GAZZETTED my money, please POOPSHUTE it!!!"
They wrote back, "ok, we will POOPSHUTE your money!"
So,....if you get an e-mail.......

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 1:02:03 PM

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Firstly the purported address is St. Loius, Minnesota (It's Louis)
Typo maybe?
The lady is purported to be 6' 1" and her weight is listed as 135lbs This gives her a BMI (Body Mass Index) of 17%. Now if she was a leat weight lifter, ok. But the picture does not convey a ripped, or an anorexic aspect.
Finger slip on height. Wanting to appear to have a better figure than reality?
Now, if you look at the full profile generally there will be nothing written.
Just a quote on mine, does that mean i copied it and i cant really write or speak english?
One sees a lot of stuff like "I want loved to be...
Literal translations will often place words in the wrong order. Just because they dont speak good english does not a scammer make.
Lastly: Look at the full profile photo. Since they were ripped from another site, and since sites often put up minimal quality photos to prevent theft, these photos when enlarged a bit look weird....blurry with a rippled effect.
Bad mobile phone pic?
I've never heard of women being scammed, I don't know why... anyone else know of any going on?
It happens lol.

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 1:43:24 PM

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quote:

I've never heard of women being scammed, I don't know why...

We're smarter than that.

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 1:47:18 PM

mnottertail

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quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

Firstly the purported address is St. Loius, Minnesota (It's Louis)
Typo maybe?
The lady is purported to be 6' 1" and her weight is listed as 135lbs This gives her a BMI (Body Mass Index) of 17%. Now if she was a leat weight lifter, ok. But the picture does not convey a ripped, or an anorexic aspect.
Finger slip on height. Wanting to appear to have a better figure than reality?
Now, if you look at the full profile generally there will be nothing written.
Just a quote on mine, does that mean i copied it and i cant really write or speak english?
One sees a lot of stuff like "I want loved to be...
Literal translations will often place words in the wrong order. Just because they dont speak good english does not a scammer make.
Lastly: Look at the full profile photo. Since they were ripped from another site, and since sites often put up minimal quality photos to prevent theft, these photos when enlarged a bit look weird....blurry with a rippled effect.
Bad mobile phone pic?
I've never heard of women being scammed, I don't know why... anyone else know of any going on?
It happens lol.

There is a St. Louis Park, MN

St. Louis is in MO

FYI

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 1:49:26 PM

mnottertail

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If you see a picture of a woman that starts at her throat, encompasses her thorax and has her legs akimbo under her on a couch, this is a off handed hint that you can't get no head.....kinda like a code like the windtalkers.

LOL

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 1:49:45 PM

missturbation

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He was questioning the spelling not the place so ner. But yep maybe they should have put st louis park - picky sod.

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 2:02:24 PM

Tuomas

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I think these tells are "useless", because if you are the kind of person who will send money overseas based on the content of an online profile, well... you deserve to be scammed

Don't you think you should like, have a conversation with someone first? That conversation -more than any profile- will tell you a lot more about the person. What you see in a profile could be a mistake, a typo... maybe just anything.

Besides, this seems rather discriminatory towards Native Americans.

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 3:08:21 PM

MasterRenegade77

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I Like to fuck w/the scammers & string them along till I get bored, then I tell them to Kiss My Great White Ass & Block'em...
There's only one problem especially on Yahoo, once they get your handle every one of them start... LOL Like if you didn't go for it the first time you'll go for it this time!!!

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 4:44:30 PM

thompsonx

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quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

Firstly the purported address is St. Loius, Minnesota (It's Louis)
Typo maybe?
The lady is purported to be 6' 1" and her weight is listed as 135lbs This gives her a BMI (Body Mass Index) of 17%. Now if she was a leat weight lifter, ok. But the picture does not convey a ripped, or an anorexic aspect.
Finger slip on height. Wanting to appear to have a better figure than reality?
Now, if you look at the full profile generally there will be nothing written.
Just a quote on mine, does that mean i copied it and i cant really write or speak english?
One sees a lot of stuff like "I want loved to be...
Literal translations will often place words in the wrong order. Just because they dont speak good english does not a scammer make.
Lastly: Look at the full profile photo. Since they were ripped from another site, and since sites often put up minimal quality photos to prevent theft, these photos when enlarged a bit look weird....blurry with a rippled effect.
Bad mobile phone pic?
I've never heard of women being scammed, I don't know why... anyone else know of any going on?
It happens lol.

missturbation:
All you need to do is wire me a thousand pounds and a first class plane ticket and I will be there post haste with my flogger and paddle

Please leave a light on in the window.
just another native american....well I was born here, that should count for something
thompson

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 5:12:12 PM

Griswold

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quote:

ORIGINAL: NightWindWhisper

I am constantly amazed at the number of scammers that show up as new members. I imagine that all of them originate from one source. That source is foreign and frequently one finds odd Russian sounding names. The object is to win your heart, and then "Oh--I would come, but my mother needs...." Never, ever send anyone money. Western Union requests are a red flag of fraud. Never send a regular plane ticket. If you do send a ticket buy one specially non-refundable. You'll lose your money, but they won't gain a year's pay.

How to tell? Here's an example that was listed today.

Firstly the purported address is St. Loius, Minnesota (It's Louis)

The lady is purported to be 6' 1" and her weight is listed as 135lbs This gives her a BMI (Body Mass Index) of 17%. Now if she was a leat weight lifter, ok. But the picture does not convey a ripped, or an anorexic aspect.

Now, if you look at the full profile generally there will be nothing written. These people cannot write normal English, even if they consider themselves fluent. One sees a lot of stuff like "I want loved to be..." If there is stuff written and it's a scam, at least with the ones that I see (about 4-6 a week) you can tell. It's not just bad writing, it's improper use of words.

One of the most glaring clues is: Ethnicity: Native American

Russians, Yugoslavians, etc. think that everyone here (excepting themselves) is a native american, and we are. We were born here. But we know this means a person whose family lived here before Chris Columbus visited. The historic title was commonly "Indian." But to these people Indians are those who live in India, so they get confused. They are so confused that almost always "Native American" equals fraud. Note, I said "almost."

Actively seeking: This is an odd category, but usually indicative, sometimes they seek everything and everything doesn't make sense.

Lastly: Look at the full profile photo. Since they were ripped from another site, and since sites often put up minimal quality photos to prevent theft, these photos when enlarged a bit look weird....blurry with a rippled effect.

I've never heard of women being scammed, I don't know why... anyone else know of any going on?

What are you telling me? That these chics are not 6/1, 135, BMI 17%?

WTF???????

I'm hanging this shit up.

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 6:13:19 PM

Sinergy

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterRenegade77

I Like to fuck w/the scammers & string them along till I get bored, then I tell them to Kiss My Great White Ass & Block'em...
There's only one problem especially on Yahoo, once they get your handle every one of them start... LOL Like if you didn't go for it the first time you'll go for it this time!!!

Actually, what happens is company A sells their email list to company B.

B sells it to C

C sells it to D

And so on

And so forth

Sinergy

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 7:36:59 PM

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This is my first post here, but since I think I was the victim of a scam- hopefully someone else can learn from my misfortune. Plus, I've just had one of those days- you know, like visiting my bro and his family in Brooklyn and coming out to find that somebody had tried to remove my poor beat up car's stereo (insult to injury)- amazingly all they got was the faceplate and they didn't make too much of a mess otherwise...OK enough digression.

A couple of points in general- although Hollywood and writers love to have scammers operate by taking advantage of peoples greed (The Sting, Hustle, The Saint..etc.) the reality is that most scams (certainly here) take advantage of some of the better characteristics of human beings, such as our desire to help those in difficulty. This leaves us with a conundrum- do we help someone in distress or are we so cynical that we always keep our wallet tightly tucked in our pants? (or in our handbag as case may be.) Look at the number of charities that operate deceptively where most of the money donated goes to the organizers rather than the individuals in need. Does this mean that we shouldn't give money to charity at all?

From my perspective- I don't want to be so hard bitten that I can't be scammed, because then I can't do my part in the world (and yes, I guess I've still got a bit of that idealism left in me, although after having the rug jerked out from under me for so long, it's a bloody miracle.)

So let me tell you how I was taken (I think-I give it better than 9 out of 10, but because it's not a certainty, the person shall remain anonymous-if I'm wrong, it would be an unpleasant violation of privacy.)

Woman on this board, no picture, but a description that sounded attractive to me- was only looking for men, and not youngsters. (question- if a scam-why limit it?) claimed that in order to weed out the wannabee's she wanted a one time tribute. Made sense to me- I know that mistresses on these boards get a lot of responses, many of them more rooted in fantasy than reality, but hey, a lot of BDSM IS fantasy, so that comes with the turf. So I responded to her- gave a description of who I was, said she was interested, next step was sending a tribute. She had it doped out- send an Amazon giftcard to her Yahoo address. I had been curious about this step- seemed to me that this was a weak link. Hell, I'll write somebody a check or even show up with cash to a meeting if that's what it takes to convince somebody that I'm for real and not a jerk- but this was pretty anonymous.

Note- the amount of tribute was unspecified- but it had to look respectable. (I don't remember her exact words.) So I threw in a C-note and got a very nicely written thank you. A week goes by, and not a peep, so I'm figuring scam. Then came a request for more info and the comment that her pop was in the hospital. At this point, I make the suggestion that with this going on in her life, perhaps my interest in her should be discarded, because she's clearly got a lot on her plate. In terms of the tribute- either send it back or donate it to charity- don't care which. She writes back and informs me her pop is doing OK, and she'd like to continue. Our email conversation is thoughtful and insightful, for the few exchanges that took place. That was 2 months ago and my last email (or three) has gone unresponded. Then I see that the moderators on this board have posted the suggestion that scams also took the form of asking for money for Amazon.com gift cards, never mind Western Union. Had they posted that a month earlier, I'd still have an extra $100 in my bank account.

So was she a scam? It certainly looks that way based on the fact that I'm out $$ and I've never even met this woman. Conversely, why the responses when she had the money in her account? Plus, it was a fair amount of effort to go through for a lousy $100. One part of me says- hey, at least she tried to earn it.

And the possibility that she's telling the truth- her pop was in the hospital, didn't make it, and she's not responding to anybody at this point. Losing a parent is tough, people react differently. Yes, in her shoes I would be trying to let people know that's what's going on, but again, people react differently under that stress, and hey, she's never met me- so how much does she owe me?

So I guess according to MsKatHouston- I'm the horrible warning.....(ROTFLMAO when I read that one....)

Regards,

Sam

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 7:41:59 PM

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 7:42:31 PM

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I am hoping this missive is findings you in best of health. Allow to introduce myself in confidence to one who is trustworthy, I am lately widowed American wife of bank president, we forced to fled country Nigeria with $4.0 millions dollars in bank, I now need help of trustworthy persons so as to release these moneys back to Americas. Of course moneys will be shared with helping persons. I feel confident that you are good and trustworthy person so let there be now friendship and trust between us. Originally I am from New Jarsey but have since relocated to Africa for political reasonings. I am 7'2' and weigh 86 lbs and have worked as model in Americas. Will be very grateful to man who can help me, since husband is deceased I am so lonely.

(did I miss any of the classic hallmarks? LOL)

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 7:43:23 PM

Sinergy

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Anything that sounds too good to be true, probably is too good to be true.

Sinergy

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RE: Guys...don't be scammed...How to tell? - 3/31/2007 8:16:33 PM

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There is also a Las Vegas, New Mexico

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