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please help: serious - 3/31/2007 12:28:58 AM   
privatePolyBoy


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first off, i know that this may be a post better placed in another section; but this is the section that has the people that i am most comfortable with... and yes, this is obviously a second profile, used to further protect the anonymity of my family... but i often post here and have a 4 digit (edited, because the 4k that was previously here was a greatly exaggerated oops) post count
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this is an exact copy of a letter to my Dominant, the only change is that all names have been removed

for a little background, my family consists of My Dominant, her Dominant (and husband), their female submissive and formerly another female submissive who was released in january... also, there are three other men who are not a part of our Ds family or are even involved in the lifestyle; but who are very close friends and directly part of our family unit... further there are two other Dominant men who i consider extended family
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dearest Ma'am,

thank You; first, i want to let You know that i am grateful for the time that i have been able to spend with You the last couple of days

i know that lately i have not quite been the submissive that i have led You to expect, and that You have every right to expect from me

You have done nothing to deserve a submissive to act in the manner that i have, or to carry the negative attitude that i have of late

i have been depressed these past weeks or months and this is in no way a reflection of anything that You have or have not done

i know that there are some instances in which You feel that You had not been the Dominant that You could have been for me; but whether i agree or disagree on these points has no bearing on my misconduct

when we started this relationship, it was with the thought and understanding that it would be a temporary situation due both to the fact of my newness in returning to the lifestyle, and those things about You and Your life that i felt i could not reconcile myself to

but since that time, we have become closer and changed that understanding that this was not merely a temporary fix until i am able to find a Dominant more suited to me

for while You are not exactly the Dominant i was looking for, You have proven to be the Dominant that i need... i did not come to find myself devoted to or loving, and in love with, a Dominant that fulfilled an arbitrary checklist but the woman, the person inside

i don't know how much You noticed that i have been beginning to emotionally distance myself from Yourself and the family in general, beginning with my learning of ******'s dismissal, but i cannot assume that You haven't seen or felt such; and if this is the case, i sincerely apologize for having hurt You in such a way

i choose to believe, because of Your past actions when i had something on my mind and heart, that You did know of what i was doing and was waiting for me to come to terms of how i was going to tell You... i thank You for that

because until this evening wondering if i should ask for a hug, i did not realize exactly what i was feeling and why i was feeling what i have been; why i have been unconsciously distancing myself... i could feel it, but i knew not what it was or why

now i understand that when ****** was released; ******, who i was as close to (perhaps closer) as i was to You, who i felt would have come around to sense if given to chance, who i love and care for as a sister in truth (note: i am not, nor have i, questioned the decision to release her; and she further has convinced me to even greater lengths that the decision was and is the correct one)... well i digress

my point is that the issue is not that specifically that ****** was released, but that i had finally had a family; a specifically defined family that consisted of You, ***, ******, ****, *****, **** and ******; and to a lesser extent, ****** and *****... i was not ready or prepared to  have that family unit change so dramatically and suddenly... other than my own release, the change that would effect me the most was of course the loss of ******

i know that i it was not as if i had no warning, because during the preceding weeks i knew that both ****** and **** were in a certain amount of danger of being released if things did not change; but i could not help but believe that those issues would be remedied and we could all continue to be a happy family... unfortunately that was not the case and i blame none but ****** for that, and things have gone much smoother for all the rest of us

but still; somewhere deep down at that time i had begun to feel a certain impermanence of the family, and especially, my place in it... me especially, because of my history of being on the outside and always being ready to walk away from  any emotional entanglements

i had begun to do what i have always done before, i had started to prepare to be able to accept my eventual and inevitable release... i simply accepted that, for whatever reason, i would be released and soon; thus i had to protect myself in the only way i have ever known, resulting in the emotional distance that i have started

now this is not fair to You, ***, me or the rest that have decided to do what it is that they are in their ability to do to keep our family together... and due to my beginning to separate myself, i have not been completely devoted to You in my heart as is Your due... as long as i am Your submissive, this i cannot abide; as whether i am to be Your submissive for life or if i were to know that i would be released on the morrow, i am obligated to give to You all that i have to give... both completely and willingly

my continued problem is this... all i know how to do is to run away, not to return; i do not know how i am to bridge this distance that i have created within myself

i beg of You to help me in this in any way that You can, to advise and guide me in whatever way You deem necessary... i ask that You share this at least with ******* and ****, but also with anyone You trust that you feel may be able to help You get me through this

please do not doubt my love for You and this family, please do not give up on me... i swear that i can, somehow, be the submissive that You deserve; a submissive that You can be proud of

sincerely,

me

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RE: please help: serious - 3/31/2007 12:30:26 AM   
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I am just surprised at 3am I read all of that

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RE: please help: serious - 3/31/2007 1:39:12 AM   
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i would just like to specify that what i am asking of you is the same that i am asking from my Dominant, well at least advice or suggestions as to how i might reverse this emotional distancing i find myself doing

i only ask you because, not only do i want to hear from the varied experiences of those here; but that on every other weekend (this being one of these) Ma'am is quite busy and i don't really expect to hear anything (except for that She has recieved my missive and is thinking on it) about this from Her till at least monday (perhaps longer, as She prefers to think such things through thoroughly before responding in full)

if you decide to send me collarme mail instead of posting your response here, please post here that you are doing so, so that i know to log into this profile

thank you very much

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RE: please help: serious - 3/31/2007 7:14:07 AM   
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in the past, I have been one to want to flee from emotional entanglements, so I understand the what you are trying to express.  I feel your letter to be sincere in what you are asking, but not knowing any of the players on a personal level, it's hard to say how it will be received.

I hope your mistress is willing to give you the chance to let you grow.  we are human, growth often doesn't occur without pain, unfortunately.

ask yourself, what would happen if she says "no"...will you continue your ways, knowing how it hurts yourself and others?  because if not, you are only doomed to repeat the situation.

good luck to you.

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RE: please help: serious - 3/31/2007 7:58:05 AM   
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Your post is a little confusing not knowing any of the people involved and only getting a sense of what you are experiencing or talking about but what struck me is the idea that you are distancing yourself as a self protective measure from being hurt, and because you feel threatened perhaps because **** was released, so maybe you feel you are next?  It's hard to suffer a loss and this is what you are going through with the release of ****  The dynamics will change - i have never been part of a poly household so i don't know what it's like to go through something like this, but i can only imagine it has to be hard to loose anyone you get close to, no matter how many others are there for you. 

Just a suggestion, and only you know this, but could it be that you have some unconscious resentment towards your domme for changing this dynamic and releasing ****??  Sounds to me like you need to lighten up on yourself and just experience the emotions you are going through, talk it out as much as you can.  Seems you are blaming yourself for a lot and blame really helps no one.  i think it's natural to pull away when one is hurt or insecure - it's a natural defense mechanism... give yourself time and just do the best you can in the meanwhile.

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RE: please help: serious - 3/31/2007 8:17:43 AM   
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It's ok to be rattled when your family changes abruptly, even if you were expecting it. This is what happens when people die; even if they'd died of a long illness, people still mourn. Withrawing is a normal step of the mourning process, as is depression. I suggest trying to look within and examining WHY you're feeling the way you're feeling. Given that you are re-entering the lifestyle, it might have something to do with why you left to begin with. The more you look within and then share that with your Dominant, the better she can help you through it.

Also, simply asking her for reassurance, even if it's constant at the moment, of your acceptance into the family is ok, too. Unless you are truly unhappy with the situation, try to stand firm wherever you can. This may mean that you're standing at a place that's more emotionally distant. Hopefully, you can stand there without running. Fear is a powerful thing...but if you start looking for where it comes from, you can work through it.

*hugs*

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RE: please help: serious - 3/31/2007 11:25:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: well at least advice or suggestions as to how i might reverse this emotional distancing i find myself doing


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Then check this out:  http://members.cox.net/lotussong/IBelieve.ppt

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RE: please help: serious - 3/31/2007 2:18:36 PM   
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To : Privatepolyboy MY OPINION

ok homie, i really REALLY understand what you are saying, i am emotionally distant and there is a very good reason for this, i've often tried so hard to figure out why and i feel its a defence mechanism you have which is natural, everyone does it to shield themselves from hurt.

At the beginning you accepted you were possibly going to leave and so you didnt unpack your bags so to speak but in time the family gave you everything you needed, stability, love, respect you simply couldnt help but lower your guard and settle down.

Remember one thing here, as far as im concerened your need for dominance does stem from security reasons and you found that in this 'family' you familiarised yourself with it all, you found your sister figure and your owner/s something you didnt realise you had, perhaps you thought 'this is what i wanted!'.

Low and behold the rug was pulled from under you, whether you like to admit it or not you are devastated, even though you reassure your owner it wasnt her fault for releasing your 'sister' your trust has been violated and you are in turmoil now, what do you do, do you leave? Pack up the bags and search again?

As any Domme/dom will tell you, looking after your sub isnt about barking orders and making sure they accept whatever they are told, its about mentoring, its about tending to emotions and feelings, yes sometimes it takes a strong hand to know what is best for their sub but perhaps you need a heart to heart with yourself and your Mistress 'off the record' if you both come to the conclusion you have reached an empasse then fare thee well, you pack up your bags and stroll on. However i feel if she is right for you she will understand and maybe you can both work out whats eating you, your trust has been dented and now you are in no mans land, it hurts! Don't let things go left unsaid, you WILL regret it!

Let me know how this goes brother, you can message me when you want.    

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RE: please help: serious - 3/31/2007 7:27:08 PM   
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i would like to thank everyone who has responded, i have already sent the email to Ma'am before i had posted it here... i'd prefer not to have to bring things such as these to Her in such an impersonal manner, but at this point i cannot bear to tell someone anything that may hurt them face to face

i am required to be complete honest with Her about anything that may affect my headspace... but i am given some leeway, while i am growing more used to being emotionally honest... i spent much time not allowing myself to feel emotions, my thought was that those that i care for died and i equated loving someone with losing them, i still tend to now and it is a hard habit to break (and now i backslide)

i don't believe that She would release me over this, not punish me for being honest; i know that She trust me now to tell Her if there's an issues as soon as i can understand what the issue is

now that i have opened up about this situation, we will sit and speak about it in an honest open manner... we both understand that there are times that to be honest and grow together we must be able to speak frankly without fear of consequence for insubordination... this is especially important due to my own emotional turmoil at this time

but the main reason i ask for your help is that nobody is perfect and Ma'am and i may not be able to get ahold on this with only the family's help

i shall think heavily on what has been said previously, and look toward further posts

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RE: please help: serious - 3/31/2007 7:41:21 PM   
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Privatepolyboy;

This is long, but i take it from my own experience, and my own growth and realizations; it may or may not be valid in your case; but it might be very helpful if any portion of it is valid. i don't know you - or the situation - well enough, but i know situations that are emotionally similar, if not the same, really, and i know things i have done in my writing which feel very familiar to me when i read yours. Everyone operates differently, but there's so much familiarity, that i can't help but think of a similarity of intention-sets. Certainly i am familiar with wanting to be close, but being afraid to be, and certainly i am familiar with the many ways i have found 'outs' from difficult situations.
This reply is for you.

my 'conjecture':

the feelings you have are everywhere to be had, in any relationship(s), or group, or community. Pro-active self-defense is the biggest killer of fulfillment there is, from what i've seen. Ask yourself "What do i really want?" .., and if you happen to be Human, the answer might be 'To be loved and to love'.

Loving, and continuing to Love - especially when your 'self-protection' buttons are pressed and your 'self-preservation' alarms go off, requires an inordinate amount of courage and strength.

It's very easy to either leave ... or sometimes better, to "leave" in your mindset already by, say, distancing yourself, and then let the Other reject you. It's easy to set up rejection scenarios. Your letter appears - to me - to be a setup for your own 'being rejected'.  You said some things that indicated that you didn't really have an investment where you are, but that your situation is, in fact, a temporary one to you. This was done very skillfully, as an 'admittance' or 'confession' . This way, you can blame the rejection on them - a rejection not really deserved in your mind, because you did offer to do better - and not have to do the hard stuff that you really need to do - like get familiar with, deal with, feel, and get past those deep fears.

But i think everything else mentioned in reply here is true, as well. But your new identity says something; and "to protect your family" is not, i think the main reason. The main reason for the new identity, i think, is so that you CAN MAKE THE POST. By making the post, you're looking for 'public' exoneration and providing yourself with a public display and proof that you did, in fact, offer to do better. But i don't think you have your heart set on it, because you've gone through an awful lot of work to make this post. It appears - to me - that you're using this to avoid having to do what you know you have to do - and let someone else - your Dominant - make that decision for you, when you really are the one who has to make it.

You want to leave - not because someone was dismissed, but because you want to leave, anyway. You stated very clearly in your letter that this Dominant is not for you, that you do not Love her, really, and you aren't getting what you want, even though you like it and it is rewarding and there's no reason TO leave, but there is a reason TO go ... somewhere else. The dismissal that occurred may just be a 'reason' to distance yourself, like you really want to, anyway; and instead of leaving and feeling like a failure, and instead of leaving and feeling guilty of hurting O/others - you get to be 'dismissed'. You WANT to be dismissed. i can't help but see that throughout your letter. It's what i would have done in the exact circumstance, and that's a bit coincidental for me to view it as coincidental.

The context of your new identity just to make that post, means that the post is very important to you. But is it important because you actually need advice, or is it important because you actually need to be innocent, to have forgiveness, to blame what you want to blame on your D., and to blame what you want to blame on yourself?
1) You were dismissed; therefore you didn't hurt anyone and are not guilty.
2) You have already 'dismissed' yourself, so the actual dismissal will only be the formal recognition of what you have already made true.
3) You don't deserve to be dismissed - as everyone knows - because you wrote a letter saying you wanted to try harder, and even posted that letter in public. Your D. gets to be guilty of hurting you - but you aren't really being hurt by that, since you're making it come true - and you get to avoid being 'the bad guy.'

Nice package deal.

You did say that you do not want to hurt anyone in your letter - and i believe that. So, the solution is to be hurt by an undeserved dismissal, so you aren't really hurt :)

But, there's still more. :)
YEah! Awesome!
You do have a problem with rejection and do defend yourself against it very well - and very slyly. You try to manage the least amount of hurt possible; guilt hurts, too, so you do not want to feel guilty.
But all this expected rejection, the expected dismissal, the ASKING - "for the sake of everyone else" per se - that you be dismissed, is all being orchestrated by yourself to cause the least hurt to everyone - which is really the least hurt to yourself.

Additionally, this is a 'life-long problem' ... so no-one is at fault here and nobody is responsible, and nobody should or is supposed to feel bad. It's just your 'problem', and you'd like to stop .... you just can't. Very convenient, indeed; nobody need be hurt by your inability to be close. But your inability to be close does/does not exist.

You make sure you have this inability as an excuse for when you don't really want to be close and committed. If you were really close and loving - what would happen??? THERE WOULD BE NO REASON TO LEAVE!
Hence you have a 'problem' which you are very sorry about. You have not been the submissive you know you should have been, and ... you take full responsibility for this 'problem' ....

But unfortunately, the problem is real.
All this makes it impossible for you to be fulfilled, and makes it impossible for you to give yourself fully - which is a big problem.
i don't think you feel ready to give yourself fully yet. i think you want to see more of what's out there. You just might not be ready to commit; you certainly weren't when you joined this family. So now it's been time for you to leave, but you don't know how. Well, actually, you're doing an excellent job at it.

But the problem is that you should still be able to give yourself fully, and you know that and feel that.
That's your problem here, methinks.

At some point, you'll have to go down to the core of you and ask "What do i really want?"

Rip up the letter, stop this post - close it ... and GIVE everything you have. Ask your Mistress to MAKE you give everything, because you NEED to. Ask Her to MAKE you serve fully and selflessly, because you NEED to. Ask Her to have ZERO leniency. Ask Her to NOT accept your BS letter, or anything EXCEPT your fullest giving, your fullest service. If you're there, you should be giving everything you have, regardless, because otherwise, you're just going to be in pain NOT doing what you NEED to do.

Yes, of course the dismissal would be upsetting, but it seems to me that you're using this as your get-away plan.

Emotional entanglements?
You ARE emotionally entangled already.
Your letter is filled with veiled opposites, rationality opposing feelings;

"who i felt would have come around to sense if given to chance, who i love and care for as a sister in truth (note: i am not, nor have i, questioned the decision to release her; and she further has convinced me to even greater lengths that the decision was and is the correct one)... well i digress"

hmmm... are you really digressing? Perhaps you wrote with a pen, so you weren't able to omit you 'digression' ... but i can't help but suspect that this was not at all a 'digression', because, here you are saying something very, very strong, and which is in strong disagreement with your Ma'am. You don't think the dismissal was warranted; you thought that "your sister in truth who you love and care for would come around if given the chance".

This is emotionally pretty potent. Also, you didn't digress speaking about how you felt for her, but, rather, indicated your digression about your agreeing that the decision was correct.

"that the decision was and is the correct one)... well i digress"

No, i don't think you were really digressing; i think you said pretty much what you wanted to say. If you typed this letter, then there's no question about it, because you would have deleted the digression if you really felt that way.

It's ok; things get tricky and complex, with opposing feelings, and then thoughts about which one of them is right thrown in.

Your plea is indeed pleaful. But you set yourself up prior to your plea for a fall. You were certainly honest, but not fully about your inner conflict.

"for while You are not exactly the Dominant i was looking for, You have proven to be the Dominant that i need... "

ouch. Paragraphs of ouch ensue here in your letter.
"not exactly" ... ouch.
Not "not"
but "not exactly"
"for while You WERE not the Dominant i was EXACTLY looking for,
Compare the two... you keep it present tense, with the word "are" instead of "were";
"for while You ARE not EXACTLY the Dominant i was looking for ....."
Additionally the lack of "exactness" you directly associate with your Dominant, instead of directly with your 'looking for'
So we end up with the coffered statement:
"You are not exactly the Dominant."
Also;
"You have proven to be the Dominant that i need..."
Now you place it in past tense "have proven" passive instead of present tense positive;
You ARE the Dominant that i need."
Sounds like a goodbye to me.
Seems like you're ready to continue looking for the Dominant you were looking for.
Time to get dismissed so you can do that.

But, if you do, you won't fare too well i don't think, as your friend has suggested, with his advice that you talk and discuss things or you WILL regret it!

He feels, as do i, that leaving is something you WILL regret. It seems that you also feel this way, and in such way, do really mean your plea for help.

Again, it seems to me that the help you need is the help to MAKE you continue to give everything.you have. You even say so in your letter - between the lines - all over the place and from every vantage possible.

It's difficult to see for ourselves what we're doing. i am pointed out things similar to what i point out here. I try to navigate carefully, too. It usually doesn't work out too well - for anyone.

i would suggest that you disregard your own letter; it is filled with too many things and too many converse statements i might suggest that you do not let your Ma'am make such decision for you, but that YOU make the decision about whether you are going to stay and give everything you have, or whether you are going to leave. If your decision is true, and you know it, then you can speak, and that speaking will not hurt - but simply be the truth.

*end of ... conjecture*

- richard "puppy"
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RE: please help: serious - 7/21/2007 12:41:15 AM   
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RE: please help: serious - 7/23/2007 1:38:53 AM   
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I suggest you come from a place of Love.

Trust you have everything you need within yourself and your Family is like the spice in your life.

Take care of your half of the relationship, every one else must take care of their half.

Focus on each thing as it comes and be proud of yourself with each action you take. If you can be proud of you, chances are those you care about will be proud of your effort. you will always sleep with yourself, so make sure you can.

Take responsibility for you and your actions, forgive your mistakes and stumbling and love yourself anyhow.
There is no-one more perfectly you than you, your reactions are part of who you are so accept them and take small steps to change the things you need to, let them be a more permanant change (2 steps forward 1 step back, still making progress just at a speed you can handle).

Best of luck to you on your path,
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RE: please help: serious - 7/23/2007 10:23:11 AM   
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i know that this is belated, but i would like to thank (just about) everyone for their advice.  i say "just about" beacause one poster, at first i wanted to lash at rskenderian for being a fool, a blow hard and someone wishing to share their misery with others so they didn't feel so alone; but, i myself have been there, have lived there and sometimes see myself moving back. rskenderian, i feel for you and i pity you, but what you have said was not completely without merit, even if it was a highly inappropriate attack intent on wounding a person in emotional turmoil

ok, moving on; i wish to update. while i still love and miss my sister; i hope the best for her in her endeavors, though i see much evidence that she continues on her self-destructive path and wish she could see in herself that she is worthy of being loved.  until she comes to this realization, she not be able to move on and truly find love with another

Ma'am and i did have that talk, it was difficult, angry and tearfilled; She stood strongly while i lashed about and shifted between violent emotions, then She held me and made me feel safe and loved.  i have not completely moved past these fears, but i realized finally that i truly am not alone and that i have a family to love and support me, who i love and support in turn

i have further made the commitment to be the submissive She deserves, just as She committed to help me grow into the man that She sees and knows i can be.  we still have our problems but i am happier with Her than i have been in a third of my life; i've even come around to allowing myself to be happy.  i am not yet strong, but i am ever growing stronger and am better able to draw on that strength in times of need. for the first time in my life, i've learned that i don't need to be the strong one and that all of the strength i have to draw upon does not have to come from within me alone

the losses of the past still haunt me and at times affect me in how i act and percieve things, but i no longer dwell on those losses the way i did beforeand i no longer stand in the door prepared to walk out when reality does not match my dreams

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RE: please help: serious - 7/23/2007 10:34:45 AM   
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quote:

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I am just surprised at 3am I read all of that


i know what you mean Krissi, here it is, 1:33PM and i was not able to read it since it was so blasted long. my attention span is not that long...LOL


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RE: please help: serious - 7/23/2007 11:26:58 AM   
earthycouple


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I wish you much luck in your journey.  I am fairly certain I know who you are and I feel right now we are a bit sympatico in that Robert and I lost each other this week.  I do so hope you fare well in your journey.  I am sure with good communication you will perservere with your family.  Change isn't always bad...make it work for you.  I know you can.

Hugs and warm thoughts

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RE: please help: serious - 7/23/2007 11:45:31 AM   
LadySeraphina


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I'm glad to see you are coping, polyboy, and wish you well. You certainly have chosen the right route in communicating with your Mistress.

earthycouple, I'm sorry to hear you and robert had to go your separate ways, and hope you're both handling it well.

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