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LotusSong -> Scary Thought (3/30/2007 8:10:20 PM)
What if this pet food contamination is an enemy testing the waters to see how vulnerable our food supply is.. ...or worse yet.. a perpetration by our own government to scare us all into submission by thinking it is an enemy attack...

luckydog1 -> RE: Scary Thought (3/30/2007 8:15:01 PM)
I can see it now. "God ^*&(ed Bush poisoned my dog!!!!!" Great out of the box thinking Lotus.

TheHeretic -> RE: Scary Thought (3/30/2007 8:16:36 PM)
No worries, Lotus. It's not like the Dems in Congress are going to make sure the administration is besieged with constant investigations and attacks that will distract them from the actual business of national security.

kiyari -> RE: Scary Thought (3/30/2007 8:20:27 PM)
Why would you think the contaminated grain [wheat gluten] has not also found it's way into the 'people food' system? Just takes us longer to die... and like the 'medical industry' can find it's ass with both hands and a gps [at least in so far as relates to 'public' disclosure]

Dtesmoac -> RE: Scary Thought (3/31/2007 5:28:16 AM)
6 days after 9/11 I was invovled in a meeting concerning security of food supply from this type of attack.....................it was impossible to protecft against then and still is. You can reduce risk but not eliminate it.

domiguy -> RE: Scary Thought (3/31/2007 5:52:14 AM)
Fuck Yeah!!....It was part of an insidious masterminded plan....My dear canine friend, Frank the talking psychic dog, was just about to spill the beans on Bin Laden's whereabouts....."He's in the mountains,..He;s located....He's loc....He's....." I wil miss you Frank. May your Heaven be full of squirrels, bunnies and nice legs to hump. MOTHER FUCKERS!!!!! You will know my wrath!!!! Die you Muslim menace!!!

FLFunTop -> RE: Scary Thought (3/31/2007 5:52:44 AM)
A little off topic but 102 haitians just dropped on shore in broad daylight. Wooden sail boat so no radar return and no motor so no detection by sonor bouy. Securing the US from an intruder with harmful intent is virtually impossible

ferryman777 -> RE: Scary Thought (3/31/2007 2:17:31 PM)
Our own government doing the unthinkable ???? What have you been smoking ?

Sinergy -> RE: Scary Thought (3/31/2007 6:41:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FLFunTop A little off topic but 102 haitians just dropped on shore in broad daylight. Wooden sail boat so no radar return and no motor so no detection by sonor bouy. Securing the US from an intruder with harmful intent is virtually impossible Are you suggesting Haitians are part of Al Qaeda? Sinergy p.s. on a related note, Timothy McVeigh purchased several thousand pounds of common fertilizer, mixed it with gasoline, and blew up the Federal Building in Oklahoma City. That was two people. How many people come to this country both legally or illegally?

TheHeretic -> RE: Scary Thought (3/31/2007 6:47:33 PM)
And then got himself arrested for speeding, in a car with no license plates and with a gun on the seat. Seems a bit amateurish, especially to people who know how tricky it can be to get a good detonation from ANFO.

Sinergy -> RE: Scary Thought (3/31/2007 6:52:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic And then got himself arrested for speeding, in a car with no license plates and with a gun on the seat. Seems a bit amateurish, especially to people who know how tricky it can be to get a good detonation from ANFO. Maybe he has Haitian genes? Sinergy

LadyEllen -> RE: Scary Thought (4/1/2007 2:16:39 PM)
It always amazes me how in the UK, with such heightened levels of danger from terrorists, we have troops outside all kinds of places, but no protection whatever for the likes of the Elan Valley in Wales - a former river valley that was dammed to form reservoirs to supply water to the Birmingham conurbation - 2nd largest in UK after London. There are metal doors which lead into staircases within the dam walls, but secured with padlocks that would be a minute's work. A lone guy goes round the dams every week to check whatever is at the bottom of these staircases - he took me and a friend down to have a look. Otherwise, aside from tourists there's no one around. No need to blow the dams from the inside, just leave the impression that the water supply for three million people has been tampered with and the disruption would be immense. The water pipes from these dams run about 80 miles underground from the dams to the city and pass about 3 miles north of me where at one point they're exposed in the forest (which is free to public access). It would be dreadfully simple to rupture the pipes at that point with the right explosive; shutting off the water to the Birmingham area and flooding the area I live for a double whammy. Same principle applies to many reservoirs just outside towns across the country - all unguarded, easy to access and helpfully marked on maps. Then there's the electricity grid - pylons, substations et al, all easily accessed and damaged very easily. Gas is a little more tricky, but not that much more. And phones. And the best one of all on our crowded roads here, if one wished to bring total disruption to the country. You fill a dozen 13.6m semi trailers with your explosive of choice, and you drive each of them to one of the crucial motorway intersections, where you blow them to pieces. Within half an hour there will be 5 mile tailbacks, within an hour there will be 20 mile tailbacks, within two hours the country will have ground to a halt. Do that at the same time you hit the water, electric, gas and phone supplies in the same locations and you will have absolute mayhem. And not a police officer or soldier in sight to prevent you. Happy thoughts E

MyMasterStephen -> RE: Scary Thought (4/1/2007 2:25:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen It always amazes me how in the UK, with such heightened levels of danger from terrorists, we have troops outside all kinds of places, but no protection whatever for the likes of the Elan Valley in Wales - a former river valley that was dammed to form reservoirs to supply water to the Birmingham conurbation - 2nd largest in UK after London. There are metal doors which lead into staircases within the dam walls, but secured with padlocks that would be a minute's work. A lone guy goes round the dams every week to check whatever is at the bottom of these staircases - he took me and a friend down to have a look. Otherwise, aside from tourists there's no one around. No need to blow the dams from the inside, just leave the impression that the water supply for three million people has been tampered with and the disruption would be immense. The water pipes from these dams run about 80 miles underground from the dams to the city and pass about 3 miles north of me where at one point they're exposed in the forest (which is free to public access). It would be dreadfully simple to rupture the pipes at that point with the right explosive; shutting off the water to the Birmingham area and flooding the area I live for a double whammy. Same principle applies to many reservoirs just outside towns across the country - all unguarded, easy to access and helpfully marked on maps. Then there's the electricity grid - pylons, substations et al, all easily accessed and damaged very easily. Gas is a little more tricky, but not that much more. And phones. And the best one of all on our crowded roads here, if one wished to bring total disruption to the country. You fill a dozen 13.6m semi trailers with your explosive of choice, and you drive each of them to one of the crucial motorway intersections, where you blow them to pieces. Within half an hour there will be 5 mile tailbacks, within an hour there will be 20 mile tailbacks, within two hours the country will have ground to a halt. Do that at the same time you hit the water, electric, gas and phone supplies in the same locations and you will have absolute mayhem. And not a police officer or soldier in sight to prevent you. Happy thoughts E Makes notes in his "to do" list... But I agree wholeheartedly. It's the way things are. The price of what freedom we have left to us is vulnerability.

kiyari -> RE: Scary Thought (4/1/2007 5:10:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ferryman777 Our own government doing the unthinkable ???? What have you been smoking ? [sm=biggrin.gif]...the wrong stuff, apparently [sm=biggrin.gif]

Sinergy -> RE: Scary Thought (4/1/2007 6:39:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MyMasterStephen Makes notes in his "to do" list... But I agree wholeheartedly. It's the way things are. The price of what freedom we have left to us is vulnerability. "People willing to sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither." Ben Franklin. Shit happens. People will do bad things. And no matter how many guns are taken away, and no matter how many guards we have checking ID at the workplace, and no matter whether everybody takes off their flip-flops going through TSA security, we will still have bad things happen. But I prefer to take my chances. 1984 describes the society that Monkeyboy et al would prefer to have, and I dont recall that society really promising safety. "You know why they put oxygen masks on airplanes? Oxygen gets you high. In a catastrophic emergency you are taking panic breaths. You become docile. You accept your fate. Its all right here. A water landing at 600mph. Faces calm as Hindu Cows. The illusion of safety." Tyler Durden, Fight Club Sinergy

HydroMaster -> RE: Scary Thought (4/1/2007 8:41:04 PM)
Amen Sinergy, one of my favorite quotes...the Ben Franklin one. Although, the Fight Club quotes are rather insightful as well.

dcnovice -> RE: Scary Thought (4/1/2007 9:04:57 PM)
quote: It's not like the Dems in Congress are going to make sure the administration is besieged with constant investigations and attacks that will distract them from the actual business of national security. Two quick thoughts: (1) Thank God the Republicans never stooped to anything like that during the previous administration. (2) It'd be pretty hard to beat Iraq as a distraction from attending to the country's real needs.

popeye1250 -> RE: Scary Thought (4/1/2007 9:30:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FLFunTop A little off topic but 102 haitians just dropped on shore in broad daylight. Wooden sail boat so no radar return and no motor so no detection by sonor bouy. Securing the US from an intruder with harmful intent is virtually impossible Yeah, the Coast Guard should have spotted them, I don't know why they didn't, overworked probably. When I was in the USCG we used to patrol about 50 miles off of Haiti in "Hatian Migrant Interdiction Operations." When we spotted a boatload of them we'd take them right back to Port O Prince. Haiti is a fourth world country. Aids is rampant there along with many other diseases. You can smell it 50 miles out to sea. And it smells bad.

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