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missturbation -> Just not ready. (3/23/2007 4:48:39 PM)

After reading quite a few threads recently in this forum one answer seems to appears in most. The maybe you're 'just not ready' for a new relationship reply!! 
It got me wondering how one would go about recognising before we cause any damage / hurt to others by our actions that we are just not ready to move on to a new relationship?
It's a little to late to think im not ready for this when we are already making people pay for past partners mistakes, when we realise we have gone into a relationship on the rebound, when we are distrusting virtually everything our partner says, when we are too dependant, when we have run away because we got scared, when we have shown an online persona that we can't live up to in person because of past relationship issues or because we have baggage that is too heavy!!
I personally am guilty of all those and possibly more but can't seem to find a 'warning sign' i should have emotionally seen that would have prevented any of the above.
Do you have a 'warning sign' that lets you know you are not ready to move on? Or do you think the things above and possibly more are just unavoidable actions and we can't foresee we are not ready?




CreativeDominant -> RE: Just not ready. (3/23/2007 5:08:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

After reading quite a few threads recently in this forum one answer seems to appears in most. The maybe you're 'just not ready' for a new relationship reply!! 
It got me wondering how one would go about recognising before we cause any damage / hurt to others by our actions that we are just not ready to move on to a new relationship?
It's a little to late to think im not ready for this when we are already making people pay for past partners mistakes, when we realise we have gone into a relationship on the rebound, when we are distrusting virtually everything our partner says, when we are too dependant, when we have run away because we got scared, when we have shown an online persona that we can't live up to in person because of past relationship issues or because we have baggage that is too heavy!!
I personally am guilty of all those and possibly more but can't seem to find a 'warning sign' i should have emotionally seen that would have prevented any of the above.
Do you have a 'warning sign' that lets you know you are not ready to move on? Or do you think the things above and possibly more are just unavoidable actions and we can't foresee we are not ready?


Depends on how honest you are willing to be with yourself. 

I was already involved in a relationship when my marriage broke up.  It was my first D/s relationship and yes, it was serious.  This was the submissive I eventually sent home to rebuild the life she had left or finish tearing it down.  Ironically...the right thing for me to do for her at the time and looking back, even now, I wonder just how I got it right.  After the end of my marriage and the end of this D/s relationship, I deliberately sought out a casual relationship because I knew I was not ready for too-serious interaction.  I needed time to delve into myself and examine myself.  I found one and it was what I wanted and needed at the time.  Lucky.  Because after that one, I felt "I've dealt with everything...I am READY for the big time".  I wasn't...and thus it led to me hearing that line which I would echo, with words changed somewhat, later on with another partner..."I am not those bitches...never was and never will be...and you can't see that".  That's when I learned that I needed some help dealing with things that were underneath.  It took nearly two years of digging and listening and crying and yelling with a therapist and by myself to get at what was underneath and to learn that you can't go from one relationship to another with no down time....that you need to take time to look at yourself.  The other thing I learned is that, if you are going to learn anything from what you've just been through, you need part of that time to find the strength and objectivity to be able to look honestly at what went right...and what went wrong...and your part in it.

To sum it all up...I don't know that there is any one emotional thing to watch out for.  I would say this:  if you NEED to be in a relationship instead of want to...if you catch yourself rationalizing the other person's actions or your own instead of seeking a good reason for those actions...if you catch yourself reminiscing, whether sadly or happily, about your past relationship even while trying to establish this one...if you catch yourself comparing everything they say or do to your past partner ( a bad trait I've noted among several of those submissives who had dominant trainers/mentors who engaged in D/s and BDSM play with their trainees)....and finally, as others have noted, if you catch yourself making someone a priority who chooses to make you an option...you may not be ready.





missturbation -> RE: Just not ready. (3/23/2007 5:17:19 PM)

"I've dealt with everything...I am READY for the big time". 
Thats how i get.
I wasn't...
Snap.
 




Quivver -> RE: Just not ready. (3/23/2007 5:27:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Depends on how honest you are willing to be with yourself. 

I was already involved in a relationship when my marriage broke up.  It was my first D/s relationship and yes, it was serious.  This was the submissive I eventually sent home to rebuild the life she had left or finish tearing it down.  Ironically...the right thing for me to do for her at the time and looking back, even now, I wonder just how I got it right.  After the end of my marriage and the end of this D/s relationship, I deliberately sought out a casual relationship because I knew I was not ready for too-serious interaction.  I needed time to delve into myself and examine myself.  I found one and it was what I wanted and needed at the time.  Lucky.  Because after that one, I felt "I've dealt with everything...I am READY for the big time".  I wasn't...and thus it led to me hearing that line which I would echo, with words changed somewhat, later on with another partner..."I am not those bitches...never was and never will be...and you can't see that".  That's when I learned that I needed some help dealing with things that were underneath.  It took nearly two years of digging and listening and crying and yelling with a therapist and by myself to get at what was underneath and to learn that you can't go from one relationship to another with no down time....that you need to take time to look at yourself.  The other thing I learned is that, if you are going to learn anything from what you've just been through, you need part of that time to find the strength and objectivity to be able to look honestly at what went right...and what went wrong...and your part in it.

To sum it all up...I don't know that there is any one emotional thing to watch out for.  I would say this:  if you NEED to be in a relationship instead of want to...if you catch yourself rationalizing the other person's actions or your own instead of seeking a good reason for those actions...if you catch yourself reminiscing, whether sadly or happily, about your past relationship even while trying to establish this one...if you catch yourself comparing everything they say or do to your past partner ( a bad trait I've noted among several of those submissives who had dominant trainers/mentors who engaged in D/s and BDSM play with their trainees)....and finally, as others have noted, if you catch yourself making someone a priority who chooses to make you an option...you may not be ready.
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Thank You, this kind of honesty and wisdom isnt often found.  




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Just not ready. (3/23/2007 5:30:15 PM)

Sometimes, all the waiting in the world doesn't make us ready. Life is a trial and error thing. We do the best we can.

Master Fire




missturbation -> RE: Just not ready. (3/23/2007 5:31:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

Sometimes, all the waiting in the world doesn't make us ready. Life is a trial and error thing. We do the best we can.

Master Fire



Very true. I certainly wasn't ready to get into the relationship i'm in now but by being honest and sharing that info and my concerns with my family we are working through and its all good [:D]




hereyesruponyou -> RE: Just not ready. (3/23/2007 7:10:14 PM)

Amazing how we make these mistakes over and over again. Ok for me this is just the second time.... Tired of falling for "great guys" who just don't have their shit together and try to bring me into their negativity. Haven't completely decided this one is over, but it's sure heading that way fast.

Good luck and hugs




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Just not ready. (3/23/2007 7:22:24 PM)

The deal here is to look at what the relationships or people have in common...and, better yet, why you consistantly choose them. Often, when we do the same things again and again, its because we're missing the lesson. The Universe is REAL good at "rescheduling" lessons when we don't get them the first 12 times!

Master Fire




RedheadGirlNY -> RE: Just not ready. (3/23/2007 7:32:37 PM)

CD's wonderful summary (bold emphasis, mine)....
To sum it all up...I don't know that there is any one emotional thing to watch out for.  I would say this:  if you NEED to be in a relationship instead of want to...if you catch yourself rationalizing the other person's actions or your own instead of seeking a good reason for those actions...if you catch yourself reminiscing, whether sadly or happily, about your past relationship even while trying to establish this one...if you catch yourself comparing everything they say or do to your past partner ( a bad trait I've noted among several of those submissives who had dominant trainers/mentors who engaged in D/s and BDSM play with their trainees)....and finally, as others have noted, if you catch yourself making someone a priority who chooses to make you an option...you may not be ready.

Egad.  I wish that I'd seen/read/thought in this way three years ago.  I'd have spent less time looking for what I wasn't ready for and more time having fun doing things that make me happy.  After a tumultuous (I really can't find any better word) end of a six year BDSM relationship, I found myself foundering.

It took me those three years of self-examination, house and life re-building and therapy to reach a point where I like my life, like my world and am not willing to settle.  Or, to quote Train "I don't have time for anyone who doesn't think I'm wonderful." 

Somewhere, more than once, I have read that it takes half as long as a relationship lasted to recover to the point of being ready to consider a new relationship.  The
Patience is wearing thin.  On the other hand, I'm not good at popping off email to strangers (you see, there is a submissive bone in my body!).  Hell's bells, I've considered dating vanilla!

Now, how to explain the miscellaneous holes in my body.  Any suggestions?

You know you're ready when...er......the other options are unpalatable.  Or when Duracell makes earnings predictions based on your remaining single.






LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Just not ready. (3/23/2007 8:55:31 PM)

I learned the worst/best way- by fucking up royally and learning from my mistakes.

I've learned that if I'm running AWAY from something or motivated by fear, then it's no good.  If I'm simply allowing things to happen, then it's ok.

Plus I've learned the negative "types" I fall for and force myself to slow down even more when I see those signs flashing.




MasterNdorei -> RE: Just not ready. (3/23/2007 9:15:14 PM)

i know i am probably the minority here, but i do not think everyone needs a lot of time between relationships. i used to think this, but i came to realize everyone is different. i have seen many couples do very well with the next relationship after a bad break up, and now i am included myself.

i think we need to be sure we are not picking the same kind of "wrong" person, but i don't think we should avoid relationships simply because the possibility for them arrives soon after one ends.

When someone is thrown from a horse, they say the best thing is to get right back up there and ride.

There is always the possibility that other issues are present that need  work, but not necessarily related to the aspect of the recently ended relationship.

Just my perspective.... flame away...
Master's dorei





azzmaster -> RE: Just not ready. (3/23/2007 9:32:55 PM)

well onviously if one skips from one relationship into the next its just trying to cover up hurt feelings and not experience them... good rule of thumb is to wait 6 months b4 gettin n2 somethin new...
but as far as hurting others... well being mistaken is not ones fault...
but lying is....
as far as i m concerned, its on me 2 pick well and wisely. Its on me to decide if the object of my affection is ready, and not get swayed by impatience, and on me to see beyond her words.... u can talk the talk. but its harder to walk the walk...




juliaoceania -> RE: Just not ready. (3/23/2007 10:01:34 PM)

I think it is based upon desire to move on, the willingness to move on, and the patience of the people involved in the relationship.

If it does not feel like something someone wants to invest themselves in, number one red flag. I found when I was not really ready to move on, it felt weird trying to put myself out there to meet new people. That was the biggest sign I was not ready. In other words, if I felt really squicked trying to meet new people, I took a step back and decided to wait until it felt like something I was excited and exuberant about. If I lacked the necessary enthusiam about meeting new people, I knew I needed more time


Here is the thing, I think that most of those issues you discussed in the OP are things that have to be worked out in the context of a relationship. Someone may think I have too much baggage, another person may think I have not "lived enough". One person may think I have too high of expectations, another person may think I do not need them enough. We are all scarred by something, whether or not we use those scars as a mechanism to become closer to someone, or as an excuse not to is dependent on the interdynamics of that relationship...

It all comes down to desire and motivation, and the couple involved. If both are unwilling to allow themselves to give into fear or scars... well they will be ready. If one lacks commitment, then it will not happen. My point is that even though a new relationship failed to get off the ground, that is not necessarily due to a lack of being ready for one.. it could be that it was just not the right relationship




Devilslilsister -> RE: Just not ready. (3/23/2007 11:44:42 PM)

I think "knowing" when you are ready, is akin to knowing yourself.  Only you can look at your past, your track record and see how you've dealt with break ups/rebounds/new relationships.  i think from looking at your track record and studing how you operate - is the only way you'll know when you are ready.  Fyi - no matter what anyone else says, dun listen to them.. they dont know you like you do.  Nor could they ever.




Griswold -> RE: Just not ready. (3/23/2007 11:47:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

After reading quite a few threads recently in this forum one answer seems to appears in most. The maybe you're 'just not ready' for a new relationship reply!! 
It got me wondering how one would go about recognising before we cause any damage / hurt to others by our actions that we are just not ready to move on to a new relationship?
It's a little to late to think im not ready for this when we are already making people pay for past partners mistakes, when we realise we have gone into a relationship on the rebound, when we are distrusting virtually everything our partner says, when we are too dependant, when we have run away because we got scared, when we have shown an online persona that we can't live up to in person because of past relationship issues or because we have baggage that is too heavy!!
I personally am guilty of all those and possibly more but can't seem to find a 'warning sign' i should have emotionally seen that would have prevented any of the above.
Do you have a 'warning sign' that lets you know you are not ready to move on? Or do you think the things above and possibly more are just unavoidable actions and we can't foresee we are not ready?


For me, it's not a "thing" or a "comment" or any "sign"....it's simply time.

I find that I figure out exactly what's right for me, almost to the day, about 6 months from when this woman I know told me a particular thing, whereupon I call her and say something akin to "(what she said roughly 6 months ago)" and then I say "so what do you think of that?", whereupon she extolls (quite clearly) how she "told (me) that very thing about....ohhhhhhh....6 months back or so".

(Thankfully she only rubs it in for a few hours, and then leaves me there to bleed).




Mercnbeth -> RE: Just not ready. (3/25/2007 7:27:54 AM)

quote:

It got me wondering how one would go about recognising before we cause any damage / hurt to others by our actions that we are just not ready to move on to a new relationship?

 
When you have the confidence to use the answers you have and don't need to come to CM or any other source to ask any question starting with; "What do I do if..."





SirKinkster -> RE: Just not ready. (3/25/2007 8:46:32 AM)

I don't think time heals all wounds, I do however feel that if your open and honest with your new partner alot can be avoided.... I always sit down and talk with new ppl about there past relationships and see if we can find triggers or patterns in there past have led to failure or mis trust and once they're in the light they are easy to reconize  and you and your new master can work on them.. It is my opinion that we ALL carry baggage from our past it is how we let it affect our future that matters




swtrayn -> RE: Just not ready. (3/25/2007 9:19:25 AM)

I am actually glad you posted this thread. I have found that I jump into things when I "think" I am ready for something, then as you said.. finding out alittle late that you aren't and hurting someone.. I am hoping my next venture out, I can be honest enough with myself to know, that i am not ready for this or that, and not end up hurting myself again or someone else.

So, thank you for the thread, gives me alot to think about.

rayn




happypervert -> RE: Just not ready. (3/25/2007 9:40:43 AM)

I think that being ready can be just as bad as not being ready, because being ready doesn't mean you'll actually find someone you like or you can be so eager you scare potential partners away.

I think ambivalence is probably the best state of mind for finding a mate and the most difficult to achieve. So ambivalence = ready, and thinking you're ready or not ready = not ready.






missturbation -> RE: Just not ready. (3/25/2007 9:49:49 AM)

Thank you all for your replies - lots for me to think on.




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