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It will never pass the Senate. That's where the problem is. These bills get bogged down with all the freaky Senate rules. It doesnt take much to squash the bill. They either filibuster or destroy it with amendments like they did with the minimum wage bill.

It's not the just the GOP either. There are several Democrats in the Senate that do not want a pullout right now. So the Democrats are going to fall well short of the votes needed to stop the filibuster. This bill will never reach Bush's desk.

It is like the drive to go to war in the first place.

They have to stand up and be counted as people who opposed pulling the troops out of Iraq.

So 4 years from the time they voted to keep them there, and support for the war plummets from the top of the two steps up on the basement steps to the cellar floor, and they want to be reelected, they get to answer the question "dude, why did you vote / filibuster to keep our troops in Iraq?  What the fuck is wrong with your melon?"

From the Democratic side of the house, Al Gore is the only contender for the Democratic nomination who can stand up and say "I never once supported the war."  The inability of the other contenders to say this is not going to help them win the nomination.

Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I say bring them home now because since we cannot acheive our objectives it makes no sense to lose more blood or lives.

If someone knew beyond doubt that we could not reach our objective, I would agree.

What is our objective at this point? Coming to consensus on that would help a lot.

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

I do not think that Iraq can be one country.  The three major
ethnic/religious groups will most likely splinter into 3 different
small nations.  Even then, they would still be fighting.