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pahunkboy -> RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? (3/17/2007 5:29:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

meat,

i heard it explained as such;

America was founded via christian ideals. where as Mexico and south- were purely over gold-wealth- no god.  thus- the US excelled- where-as the southern counterpart did not.

??????


The founding fathers were all wealthy landowners who did not want a government that could come in and take what was theirs away from them.

The IRS came later when the government needed to pay for wars.

Sinergy


and today- is the effective tool per funding Iraq.     [sarcasm here,,,,]




Real0ne -> RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? (3/17/2007 6:12:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

meat,

i heard it explained as such;

America was founded via christian ideals. where as Mexico and south- were purely over gold-wealth- no god.  thus- the US excelled- where-as the southern counterpart did not.

??????


The founding fathers were all wealthy landowners who did not want a government that could come in and take what was theirs away from them.

The IRS came later when the government needed to pay for wars.

Sinergy


and today- is the effective tool per funding Iraq.     [sarcasm here,,,,]


well it in combination with the federal reserve is the noose around our neck ochestrated by the nobility!   The nobility is the elite, the super wealthy, the illuminati, the "secret" government, call it what we will whos tea we dumped in the harbor!   (Look at the geneality list of nobility that i put on the first page, the OP, look how it ties together!)  Look at this country and what is happeneing!  Compare it all!

The point is we were only a free nation for a few years before the "nobility" of england found a new way to enslave us and again bring us back under the "CONTROL" and governance of england!

The federal reserve, irs, much of the ucc law, and the federal gov whos only purpose was to coordinate and basically keep records between the states, insure that our country was defended against "foreign" ememies, insure standards in commerce betweeen the states, collect legal war taxes from coporations ect have expanded to illegally collecting taxes from everyone, are in our bedrooms, spying on our conversations, and does anyone have any idea how freaking much money these elitists are making from the interest that we are paying on that debt?

It is the elitists who gets paid the interest that we pay on the debt!!!   The English nobility who we thought we were free from are ruining this country and put us on the brink of destruction.

Does anyone know the total vale of the us?  If this country goes bankrupt your houses that you "THOUGHT" were yours will default to these elitists to pay for the debt! 

Now that might sound like its to far out to believe but do your own research and learn whats in the code and the law and you will be shocked at the how well orchestrated this has been.

Now combine that with our rights dismantled and replaced with priviledges, fema prison camps for over 12 million so far being built and manned all over the us,  marshal law looming in the shadows where all they need is another attack like 911 to implement, i think it is time to take this very serioulsy and get involved.

i cannot stress enough, learn the money system, dont take my word for it and bar anyone with nobility roots from ever holding office in this country again!!!!

i think we paid enough for that fucking tea!




meatcleaver -> RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? (3/17/2007 10:06:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Does anyone know the total vale of the us?  If this country goes bankrupt your houses that you "THOUGHT" were yours will default to these elitists to pay for the debt! 



RealOne, this is called capitalism. Americans are the world experts in capitalism, it is what American soldiers die for, it is what the revolutionary war was fought for, it is what the American constitution is about. This has nothing to do with the British nobility or elite, it is American as apple pie. You don't pay your dues, tough, you are on Skid Row.




luckydog1 -> RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? (3/17/2007 10:57:00 AM)

Meat is basically right.  Our revolution was not extremely radical.  We did essentially simply cut ties to england, and keep most everything else the same.  There are a few differences however( that really did not come into effect untill the constitution/bill of rights which was 12 years later.  For example the speration of Church and State clause.  Everyone should read about the Church of Virginia, and how it operated when we were a colony.  Our right to keep and bear Arms is another example.  We did not experience a "real" revolution. Massive rioting, slaughter of civilians, burning cities, mob rule ending in a dictatorship, which takes us to war killing millions, purges, ect like "real radical "revolutions, ie the French and Russians.  I see that a very good thing, though i am sure others disagree.




meatcleaver -> RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? (3/17/2007 11:03:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

We did not experience a "real" revolution. Massive rioting, slaughter of civilians, burning cities, mob rule ending in a dictatorship, which takes us to war killing millions, purges, ect like "real radical "revolutions, ie the French and Russians.  I see that a very good thing, though i am sure others disagree.


For a war and if one likes to call it a revolution, neither are civilised but the war of independence or the revolutionary war if one prefers to call it that, was rather a civilised affair compared to similar elsewhere.




Real0ne -> RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? (3/17/2007 11:58:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Does anyone know the total vale of the us?  If this country goes bankrupt your houses that you "THOUGHT" were yours will default to these elitists to pay for the debt! 



RealOne, this is called capitalism. Americans are the world experts in capitalism, it is what American soldiers die for, it is what the revolutionary war was fought for, it is what the American constitution is about. This has nothing to do with the British nobility or elite, it is American as apple pie. You don't pay your dues, tough, you are on Skid Row.


NO we are not!  In fact we are capitalist stoopid!  Those who control the money are experts in capitalism and this is not and has not been a capitalist society in a long time.

All 10 planks of the communist manifesto are "in place" and rolling along strong here in the us.  We have government combining with corporation.  We have a strange mix of socialism and fascism in a fuedalistic state that is rapidly de-evolving into a totalitarianism.

If this has nothing to do with the british nobility or the elite than how why is that the very richest people in the world are of british nobility which of course you realize some are also of jewish and bavarian decent in the mix too.

Take a little read on the geneality of the presidents we have, senators etc.

With so much blood line of nobility in office how can you possibly say that?




meatcleaver -> RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? (3/17/2007 2:49:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

If this has nothing to do with the british nobility or the elite than how why is that the very richest people in the world are of british nobility which of course you realize some are also of jewish and bavarian decent in the mix too.



Some of the British nobility are Jewish? While there are some rich Jews in Britain, even several Jews with high political positions, more than you would expect comparing their numbers in the general population but there is no Jewish nobility in Britain. There are Jewish life peers but they are appointed and just because they might have the title of Lord, that doesn't make them nobility. In fact most of the English nobility are of Norman desent or the nouvo riche of the 18th century when anti-semitism debarred Jewish people from public office. On the whole, the British nobility aren't very rich, the Duke of Westminster being something of an exception.




MasDom -> RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? (3/18/2007 11:33:05 AM)

Government makes the money.
Government gives business loans to friendly parties.
friendly parties create next governor.
Next governor becomes new era president...

Vicious cycle isn't it...
Ass hole begets asshole.
Hurrah...




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