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US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/16/2007 8:35:05 AM   
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Everyone thinks this admin is a bunch of dumb asses right?  Wrong! they have us so out gunned we dont even see it coming!

It is commonly assumed that there is no aristocracy, let alone a nobility, in America. Nothing could be farther from the truth. In his work,

Ancestors of American Presidents,

Gary Boyd Roberts of the New England Historic Genealogical Society reveals nineteen presidents descended from Edward III. John Galt (a pen name of a researcher fearing to be identified), in an unpublished manuscript (now in my possession), The Genealogy of the New World Order, has traced the royal ancestry of George Bush, which traces from............  If you want to read about the democrats, clintons etc you gotta read the link...... 

http://www.voxfux.com/features/skull_bones_treason.html

Why do i keep saying such things as a vote for a republican is a vote for a democrat?  Why do i say vote 3rd party?  Well....

Anyone feel this knowledge is important?  Maybe there was a reason the original 13th amendment disappeared LOL


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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/16/2007 8:42:38 AM   
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"This group intends to control both sides of every conflict."

a good read.   I did not grasp teh Clinton angle tho.... can you explain???

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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/16/2007 8:46:30 AM   
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One of the reasons the US has been politically stable where Latin America hasn't, is because it had inherited a political culture and elite from the Britain, just like Canada, Australia and New Zealand have. I keep saying it and I'll say it again, the founding fathers were the mirror image of conservative Parliamentarians back in London. The reason the American constitution has lasted is because it was a conservative constitution and not a revolutionary one like the French and the Russian revolutionary constitutions. It consolidated power for the elite, it didn't spread it around.

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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/16/2007 8:49:07 AM   
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"This group intends to control both sides of every conflict."

a good read.   I did not grasp teh Clinton angle tho.... can you explain???


That is why it is downright nefarious that it was the widow of Averell Harriman, Pamela Harriman, who was the principle backer of Bill Clinton for President. When Clinton lost the campaign for Governor of Arkansas, it was Pamela who picked him up, dusted him off and made him chairman of PAM-PAC--the largest fund raising source for the Democratic Party. Some cynics think that George Bush is still president, using Bill Clinton as a front, just as he had used Ronald Reagan.


this just goes on and on LOL  Koolest web i have seen in a long time :)


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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/16/2007 8:49:21 AM   
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meat,

i heard it explained as such;

America was founded via christian ideals. where as Mexico and south- were purely over gold-wealth- no god.  thus- the US excelled- where-as the southern counterpart did not.

??????

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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/16/2007 8:50:35 AM   
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quote:

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"This group intends to control both sides of every conflict."

a good read.   I did not grasp teh Clinton angle tho.... can you explain???


That is why it is downright nefarious that it was the widow of Averell Harriman, Pamela Harriman, who was the principle backer of Bill Clinton for President. When Clinton lost the campaign for Governor of Arkansas, it was Pamela who picked him up, dusted him off and made him chairman of PAM-PAC--the largest fund raising source for the Democratic Party. Some cynics think that George Bush is still president, using Bill Clinton as a front, just as he had used Ronald Reagan.



ok-ya- i read that- how does this connect tho??? i fail to see the connection...

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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/16/2007 8:52:45 AM   
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James Madison?????  Is he the quarteback for the Boston Pistons????

Gasoline here....$2.97 per. or was that diesel???

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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/16/2007 8:55:18 AM   
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One of the reasons the US has been politically stable where Latin America hasn't, is because it had inherited a political culture and elite from the Britain, just like Canada, Australia and New Zealand have. I keep saying it and I'll say it again, the founding fathers were the mirror image of conservative Parliamentarians back in London. The reason the American constitution has lasted is because it was a conservative constitution and not a revolutionary one like the French and the Russian revolutionary constitutions. It consolidated power for the elite, it didn't spread it around.


yes but the HUGE distinguishing difference is that they made us each as individuals kings and queens.   We we imbued with unalienable rights, and the uk has priviledges that are revokable at any time!  At least till these last couple of years we had unalienable rights.


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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/16/2007 8:58:07 AM   
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"This group intends to control both sides of every conflict."

a good read.   I did not grasp teh Clinton angle tho.... can you explain???


That is why it is downright nefarious that it was the widow of Averell Harriman, Pamela Harriman, who was the principle backer of Bill Clinton for President. When Clinton lost the campaign for Governor of Arkansas, it was Pamela who picked him up, dusted him off and made him chairman of PAM-PAC--the largest fund raising source for the Democratic Party. Some cynics think that George Bush is still president, using Bill Clinton as a front, just as he had used Ronald Reagan.



ok-ya- i read that- how does this connect tho??? i fail to see the connection...


it connects through the federal reserve and i am not sure if i posted it on this site or one of the other ones the lineage of the federal reserve which takes us all the way back to the rothschilds, bilderburgs etc etc.

Its not only nobility but those nobility controls.


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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/16/2007 9:01:27 AM   
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ABSOLUTELY CORRECT !!!!!!  After my project on Geo. Washington, The Revolution; reading the researched texts; it was so plainly the truth..........however, the truth clashed head on with the schoolbook myth text; that the project would never be sold........consequently, the truth was abandoned for the myth.....and subsequently sold and bought.

The ancient movie 'Revolution' with Al Pacino touches on this.

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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/16/2007 9:02:35 AM   
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meat,

i heard it explained as such;

America was founded via christian ideals. where as Mexico and south- were purely over gold-wealth- no god.  thus- the US excelled- where-as the southern counterpart did not.

??????


ya we were conceived and created a sovereign  nation, with sovereign states and  sovereign citizens under a republic which is a government under law, up to a huge majority of 75/25 vote where it leans to democracy at that point.   Tough to get that kind of majority on any issue LOL

sovereign has the same rights and priveledges as kings and queens in ajacent countries have.  Big difference from life as we have come to know it or how life ever was in the uk

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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/16/2007 9:10:08 AM   
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 "We we imbued with unalienable rights, and the uk has priviledges that are revokable at any time!  At least till these last couple of years we had unalienable rights"  BINGO!!!

ok- fed reserve. teh US dollar is no longer backed by gold. it is backed by "the full faith and credit of the US gvt".... if anarchcky ensued- junk silver coins will go further then paper money.

how the hell- did we LET this happen????????????!!!!!!

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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/16/2007 9:12:22 AM   
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ABSOLUTELY CORRECT !!!!!!  After my project on Geo. Washington, The Revolution; reading the researched texts; it was so plainly the truth..........however, the truth clashed head on with the schoolbook myth text; that the project would never be sold........consequently, the truth was abandoned for the myth.....and subsequently sold and bought.

The ancient movie 'Revolution' with Al Pacino touches on this.


I dont get this? 

We have sovereign states, each were supposed to have their own militia, each have their own constitution, legislation, governors etc and the only requirement is to stay within the boundaries of the "Supreme Law" which is the constitution.

How can that be viewed {It consolidated power for the elite, it didn't spread it around. }  ?

It seems thsy took great efforsts to spread it around and the federal gov was to make no law outside of its jurisdiction of columbia

That simply does not compute

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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/16/2007 9:16:14 AM   
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"We we imbued with unalienable rights, and the uk has priviledges that are revokable at any time!  At least till these last couple of years we had unalienable rights"  BINGO!!!

ok- fed reserve. teh US dollar is no longer backed by gold. it is backed by "the full faith and credit of the US gvt".... if anarchcky ensued- junk silver coins will go further then paper money.

how the hell- did we LET this happen????????????!!!!!!


well let me put it like this.

as of 2001 warran buffet now owns more silver than the hunt brothers ever did and billy gates bought a bullion mine...  so let the actions speak louder than these mere words!

there is an old saying in investing and its called follow the big money.

But i think that we need to do full geneality investigations of who is running this country before we go and vote them in.


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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/16/2007 9:19:57 AM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

"We we imbued with unalienable rights, and the uk has priviledges that are revokable at any time!  At least till these last couple of years we had unalienable rights"  BINGO!!!

ok- fed reserve. teh US dollar is no longer backed by gold. it is backed by "the full faith and credit of the US gvt".... if anarchcky ensued- junk silver coins will go further then paper money.

how the hell- did we LET this happen????????????!!!!!!


well let me put it like this.

as of 2001 warran buffet now owns more silver than the hunt brothers ever did and billy gates bought a bullion mine...  so let the actions speak louder than these mere words!

there is an old saying in investing and its called follow the big money.

But i think that we need to do full geneality investigations of who is running this country before we go and vote them in.



HOLY Fkkkk!!!!!!!

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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/16/2007 1:36:05 PM   
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well let me put it like this.

as of 2001 warran buffet now owns more silver than the hunt brothers ever did and billy gates bought a bullion mine...  so let the actions speak louder than these mere words!

there is an old saying in investing and its called follow the big money.



Very true, but this is also further evidence why a change to commodity-based money is a poor idea.

Who owns most of the gold and silver? Surely not the government!

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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/17/2007 1:40:57 AM   
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meat,

i heard it explained as such;

America was founded via christian ideals. where as Mexico and south- were purely over gold-wealth- no god.  thus- the US excelled- where-as the southern counterpart did not.

??????


The founding fathers were all wealthy landowners who did not want a government that could come in and take what was theirs away from them.

The IRS came later when the government needed to pay for wars.

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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/17/2007 2:12:43 AM   
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The story of Latin America is much more complicated than that,
pahunkboy. 
 
The conquistadores came with the cross in one hand and the
sword in the other.  The Crown of the Spanish Empire was
intertwined to the Cross of the Catholic Church.
 
Here are some links on Wikipedia, they do take a while to read
because of all the details.
 
 
"Spanish Conquest of Mexico"
 
"In short order, the upper echelons of patrons and priests in the society lived off the work of the lower classes. Due to some horrifying instances of abuse against the indigenous peoples, Bishop Bartolomé de las Casas suggested importing black slaves to replace them. Bartolomé later repented when he saw the even worse treatment given to the black slaves. The other discovery that perpetuated this system was extensive silver mines discovered at Potosi, in Peru and other places that were worked for hundreds of years by forced native labor and contributed most of the wealth that flowed to Spain. Spain spent enormous amounts of this wealth hiring mercenaries to fight the Protestant Reformation.

The conquistadors brought with them the Catholic faith and a lot of priests, to which the population was converted rapidly, or at least, nominally so. Because of their success in getting rid of the Muslims in Spain, the Catholic Church operated almost as an arm of the Spanish government."

It soon became apparent that most of the natives had adopted "the god of the heavens", as they called it, as just another one of their many gods. While it was an important god, because it was the god of the conquerors, they did not see why they had to abandon their old beliefs. As a result, a second wave of missionaries began a process attempting to completely erase the old beliefs, and thus wiped out many aspects of Mesoamerican culture. Hundreds of thousands of Aztec codices were destroyed, Aztec priests and teachers were persecuted, and the temples and statues of the old gods were destroyed."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Conquest_of_Mexico


"Spanish Colonization of the Americas"

"The Spaniards were committed to converting their American subjects to Christianity, often by force, and were quick to purge any native cultural practices that hindered this end. However, most initial attempts at this were only partially successful, as American groups simply blended Catholicism with their traditional beliefs. On the other hand, the Spaniards did not impose their language to the degree they did their religion, and the Roman Catholic Church's evangelization in Quichua, Nahuatl and Guarani actually contributed to the expansion of these American languages, equipping them with writing systems. Many native artworks were considered pagan idols and destroyed by Spanish explorers. This included the many gold and silver sculptures found in the Americas, which were melted down before transport to Europe."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_colonization_of_the_Americas

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meat,

i heard it explained as such;

America was founded via christian ideals. where as Mexico and south- were purely over gold-wealth- no god.  thus- the US excelled- where-as the southern counterpart did not.

??????


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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/17/2007 3:54:02 AM   
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yes but the HUGE distinguishing difference is that they made us each as individuals kings and queens.   We we imbued with unalienable rights, and the uk has priviledges that are revokable at any time!  At least till these last couple of years we had unalienable rights.



A written constitution ring fences your 'inalienable rights' where in English Common Law you can do anything you like unless there is a law against it but enacting unpopular laws or trying to be dictatorial can be very risky as Charlies I found out. This is all in theory just like American 'inalienable rights' only exists in theory because the crucial point in the American system is that the Judges who sit in judgement, are political placemen. The American system is great for making lawyers rich but is not value added for ordinary citizens. As Bush has proved, the constitution is just a piece of meaningless paper. It is the reality of people's lives that is true measure of rights and the US has nothing to teach Britain on this score.

Kings and Queens have had very little power for over 500 years and despite what Americans think, George III had no power to talk about, the conflict between the colonies and Britain was between peers, the founding fathers and their mirror images in London, conservative Parliamentarians. The irony being that radical Parliamentarians sympathized with and supported the rebels, thinking they too were radical but were in fact conservative, holding many of the conservative values they daily opposed in Parliament. The radical Parliamentarians thought that should the rebels win independence they would see universal sufferage and the ending of the slave trade in the colonies etc. etc. and this in turn would influence the British Parliament into similar reforms. It never did of course because the founding fathers and the constitution they produced was not radical.

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RE: US Presidential Elections - A family Affair...? - 3/17/2007 5:27:11 AM   
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The story of Latin America is much more complicated than that,
pahunkboy. 
 
The conquistadores came with the cross in one hand and the
sword in the other.  The Crown of the Spanish Empire was
intertwined to the Cross of the Catholic Church.
 
Here are some links on Wikipedia, they do take a while to read
because of all the details.


I had forgotten Spain was ever a world power.  Geees.   I Knew England and France, Germany was,,,,

consider this- the California as we know it today is not the native Californina.
when Spain, or whomever came over- the donkey dropping contained seeds of EU plants and trees. Hence bastardizing the pristine landscape of teh California coast.

ty for the insight ful post!!

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