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climate change - 3/13/2007 3:07:06 PM   
babyboyk


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Status: offline 		was just curious about peoples views on climate change, as i read that the UK govenment is planning legistlation to cut CO2 omitions by a huge amount by 2050, i dont know how it will work because the figures they suggest mean doing away with the car and electrical apliances. i cant see that working myself, knowing how much we rely on both....

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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 3:14:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Climate change? I'm all for it!

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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 3:31:31 PM   
babyboyk


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Climate change? I'm all for it!



LOL, you wouldnt be if you got hotter, and, and wetter

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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 3:35:36 PM   
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Climate change? I'm all for it!



LOL, you wouldnt be if you got hotter, and, and wetter


I lived in NEW HAMPSHIRE for 10 years, TRUST ME, I'm ALL for it!!!
Hack that rain forest down and build condos!

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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 4:02:53 PM   
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was just curious about peoples views on climate change, as i read that the UK govenment is planning legistlation to cut CO2 omitions by a huge amount by 2050, i dont know how it will work because the figures they suggest mean doing away with the car and electrical apliances. i cant see that working myself, knowing how much we rely on both....


I don't see how this plan can work. How is this plan going to change the earths climate? CO2 caused by man made invention has not done much if anything to the earths climate to begin with. 

How will decreasing CO2 do anything? After the American Dust Bowl of the 1930's, we've put out more CO2 and even started launching atomic bombs and nuclear war heads. If CO2 is such a big deal, then why aren't we having a dust bowl any more? 

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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 4:39:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I believe the discussion was about stop taxing poluters and build in an incentive plan to accomplish this.   Not sure of all the details but it just didn't seem viable to me., on either count.

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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 5:36:01 PM   
popeye1250


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I'm an "expert" at burning huge piles of tires!

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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 6:06:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Popeye   burning tires makes oil doesn't it?   so it must be a renewable source of fuel

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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 6:11:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ken, I always thought of it that way everytime I winged a beer can out the window of my pick-up truck; "Back into the Earth from whence you came!"
It'd just take a little longer than "recycling."

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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 6:13:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		LOL   lot more convienent too   LOL

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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 6:38:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: babyboyk

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Climate change? I'm all for it!


LOL, you wouldnt be if you got hotter, and, and wetter


I lived in NEW HAMPSHIRE for 10 years, TRUST ME, I'm ALL for it!!!
Hack that rain forest down and build condos!


Pave the planet!

One people, one planet, one slab of asphalt.

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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 6:44:52 PM   
KenDckey


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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 6:53:47 PM   
Sinergy


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Sinergy   What no concrete?   Won't the masons complain?


Not according to my t-shirt.

I am currently wearing my Black Death World Tour t-shirt, which gives the names of all the cities Black Death visited in the 14th century.

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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 6:58:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: babyboyk

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Climate change? I'm all for it!



LOL, you wouldnt be if you got hotter, and, and wetter


I lived in NEW HAMPSHIRE for 10 years, TRUST ME, I'm ALL for it!!!
Hack that rain forest down and build condos!


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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 7:01:14 PM   
popeye1250


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Status: offline 		They just had a scientist on Hannity & Combs who basically said that Al Gore is full of shit on "Global Warming."
Gee, who'd a thunk?

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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 7:04:09 PM   
RWAble


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They just had a scientist on Hannity & Combs who basically said that Al Gore is full of shit on "Global Warming."
Gee, who'd a thunk?


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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 7:09:19 PM   
Sinergy


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Where do I enlist?
I'm an "expert" at burning huge piles of tires!


I learned in chemistry that matter cannot be created or destroyed.

You realize that burning tires simply changes the form of all that rubber and other gunk into a toxic dust cloud.

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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 8:44:59 PM   
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http://www.whrc.org/resources/online_publications/warming_earth/scientific_evidence.htm

"After years of investigation and in consultation with thousands of scientists, the IPCC was able to write, in its Second Assessment Report in 1995, that climate has changed over the past century and that the twentieth century had a mean temperature “at least as warm as any other century since 1400 A.D.” Their report noted that the dramatic increase in carbon dioxide concentration in the atmosphere over the past 150 years (from about 280 parts per million to about 376 parts per million) is largely due to anthropogenic (human-caused) effects and concluded that “the balance of evidence suggests a discernible human influence on global climate.” Their models predicted a rise of 1.8 to 6.3 degrees Fahrenheit in the global mean surface temperature during the next century, with sea-levels expected to rise by 6 inches to 3 feet by 2100. (IPCC 1995). The conclusions of the IPCC gained broad support in the world scientific community and, in the summer of 1997, a letter signed by 2,600 scientists called for the United States to take a leadership role in reducing greenhouse gas emissions to diminish the likelihood of intense, continuous global warming."

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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 9:00:29 PM   
Vendaval


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"2006 Was Earth's Fifth Warmest Year"
Feb. 8, 2007
 
"Climatologists at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York City have found that 2006 was the fifth warmest year in the past century.
 
Image right: The five warmest years since the late 1880s, according to NASA scientists, are in descending order 2005, 1998, 2002, 2003 and 2006. Credit: NASA
 
Other groups that study climate change also rank these years as among the warmest, though the exact rankings vary depending upon details of the analyses. Results differ especially in regions of sparse measurements, where scientists use alternative methods of estimating temperature change."

http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20070208/

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RE: climate change - 3/13/2007 9:35:09 PM   
popeye1250


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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

From Wood's Hole Research Center

http://www.whrc.org/resources/online_publications/warming_earth/scientific_evidence.htm

"After years of investigation and in consultation with thousands of scientists, the IPCC was able to write, in its Second Assessment Report in 1995, that climate has changed over the past century and that the twentieth century had a mean temperature “at least as warm as any other century since 1400 A.D.” Their report noted that the dramatic increase in carbon dioxide concentration in the atmosphere over the past 150 years (from about 280 parts per million to about 376 parts per million) is largely due to anthropogenic (human-caused) effects and concluded that “the balance of evidence suggests a discernible human influence on global climate.” Their models predicted a rise of 1.8 to 6.3 degrees Fahrenheit in the global mean surface temperature during the next century, with sea-levels expected to rise by 6 inches to 3 feet by 2100. (IPCC 1995). The conclusions of the IPCC gained broad support in the world scientific community and, in the summer of 1997, a letter signed by 2,600 scientists called for the United States to take a leadership role in reducing greenhouse gas emissions to diminish the likelihood of intense, continuous global warming."


Who, whoa,...hold the phone!
They want the "U.S." to take a leadership role? I thought "the whole world hates the U.S.?" That's what the Moonbats have been telling us these past few years.
I don't want to be anyone's leader!
I think what they *REALLY* mean is that they want the U.S. to *PAY* for all that clap-trap.
No thankyou!

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