http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/2001/hr2977.html

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You'd be suprised how many "god squad" members are dems too. 

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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You'd be suprised how many "god squad" members are dems too. 

I would be suprised if many Pat Roertson followers vote dem, but I am sure there are one or two out there.

Here is the thing, the pat robertson christian coalition runs the religious right wing...
Where do you get this from? a Moveon org site? Christian Conservative's are as diverse as the members here ( in the spirit of full disclosure I am not a member, but I have friends that are )
 
if the religious right does not get someone they like as the nominee they have swore to stay home,
Source?
without the religious right the republicans lose big.
Very true, just like the far left in a dem primary. I am personally enjoying watching the far far left attack thier own as they feel that they were promised things in the last election and now they aren't getting the promoses delivered.
Now you may not want to face reality, but the middle is not made up with a bunch of lunatics trying to bring about the second coming of christ by starting a war with Islam.
I thought tolerance was a left wing ideal, lol  I see if you disagree on policy your labeled loon, fascist etc.. grow up
We didnt start a war ( or as they call it Jihad ) with islam, The only religios applications has been from the muslim community.
 
Most Americans are prochoice,
not as prochoice as you would think..
Still, Americans long have been uneasy with the procedure and the reasons it's done — and these doubts remain. Eight in 10 or more say an abortion should be legal to save the woman's life, to preserve her health, or when the pregnancy was caused by rape or incest. A much smaller majority, 54 percent, supports legal abortion if there's evidence the baby will be physically impaired.
However, 57 percent oppose abortion solely to end an unwanted pregnancy — "if the mother is unmarried and does not want the baby." And opposition soars to about seven in 10 or more for so-called "partial-birth abortions" or abortions conducted in the sixth month of pregnancy or later.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/abortion_poll030122.html

Ideology and political partisanship are also strong factors. Sixty-three percent of Democrats and 69 percent of liberals support legal abortion; 55 percent of Republicans and 58 percent of conservatives oppose it. Independents and moderates are more apt to support it.
 
most Americans are ready to bring our troops home,
We want our troops to come home too, we just prefer to win and make a stable partner in Iraq first. Cut and run didn't work for Clinton in Somalia and it wont work in Iraq as well.
 most Americans are scared that people like Pat Robertson are trying to hijack our government.
A Liberal fantasy/ nightmare lol, really try and get some facts from somewhere other than moveon or KOS

Basically the religious right is getting ready to bolt from the republicans the same way they ditched the democrats.
Actually the Dems left them and could you give any source for this?
 
You see, they expect to have political capital.
Your base  always expects to have their agenda respected and enacted. With the appointment of 2 supreme ct judges the right has been happy  ( well there was some fight over this as harriet wasnt a great choice ) but it all worked out in the end. With ginsburg looking like the next justice to go ( she's going to try and hang on till the next presidential election, unless her heath fails further ) , I'd bet on a heavy religious turn out next election cycle if for no other reason.. And I'd also give long odds on them not turning out for anyone with a D next to thier name.

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Julia, I think you got another one wrong; "opposes gun control", that would help him not hurt him!
Sure, he may lose some guys in Berkley who have bald heads and pony tails but gun control only appeals to a very small audience.
What was that second amendment case about and where was it?

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Julia, I think you got another one wrong; "opposes gun control", that would help him not hurt him!
Sure, he may lose some guys in Berkley who have bald heads and pony tails but gun control only appeals to a very small audience.
What was that second amendment case about and where was it?

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

More tit for tat, we shall see who gets nominated and who wins the general election... I have nothing but time

BTW, if you think religious extremists are ok because they call themselves Christian, well I disagree... I do no like lunatics of any religious faith
Just "lunars" like Kucinch lol  a candidate no one takes seriously.

. Most Muslims are moderate, like most Christians are... and most Christians I know see a big difference between themselves and doomsday coming of the lord "Left Behind" nutjobs inhabiting the extreme religious right.

Spin it anyway you like,
Actually I reference sources... try it some time

but even after 30 years the Religious Right has not reduced those who are prochoice from the majority.
Source?


The rest of your post I do not feel like addressing because I do not want to raise my post counts to an even more embarassingly high level in tit for tat contests.

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I would bet your wrong about the middle, but thats what elections are for.
I haven't thrown my vote yet but I definitely want to see more.
You'd be suprised how many "god squad" members are dems too. 

I'd wonder where you get your info on the republican party, from your positions here on the threads I cant picture you attending any gathering where repubs would be.

I have attended many events ( here in NY  ) and while the christian conservatives are present pats name rarely comes up. If that was a concern I'd bet it would be seen here first, as our southern cousins find New York  ( and in truth CA too ) to be nearly socalist states. Actually the biggest question is one of finding a candidate with no personal skeletons and some adherance to the party ideals...

BTW I looked up Kucinch and I can see why he's your candidate.
But as for morally superior? he's on his third wife too.. But I cant wait to see him answer for this bill ...

BILL WOULD BAN SPACE-BASED MIND CONTROL WEAPONS
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) introduced a bill in the House of Representatives late last year that would ban weapons in space. But while there have been many similar legislative initiatives in the past, Rep. Kucinich's bill is distinguished by its unusually expansive definition of "weapons."
Among the weapons that it would proscribe the new measure includes "psychotronic" devices that are "directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of ... mood management, or mind control."
No explanation for this peculiar proposal was immediately available. But the text of "The Space Preservation Act of 2001" (H.R. 2977), introduced on October 2, may be found here:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/2001/hr2977.html

Wacky guy that Dennis

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ORIGINAL: Sternhand4

I would bet your wrong about the middle, but thats what elections are for.
I haven't thrown my vote yet but I definitely want to see more.
You'd be suprised how many "god squad" members are dems too.

I'd wonder where you get your info on the republican party, from your positions here on the threads I cant picture you attending any gathering where repubs would be.

I have attended many events ( here in NY ) and while the christian conservatives are present pats name rarely comes up. If that was a concern I'd bet it would be seen here first, as our southern cousins find New York ( and in truth CA too ) to be nearly socalist states. Actually the biggest question is one of finding a candidate with no personal skeletons and some adherance to the party ideals...

BTW I looked up Kucinch and I can see why he's your candidate.
But as for morally superior? he's on his third wife too.. But I cant wait to see him answer for this bill ...

BILL WOULD BAN SPACE-BASED MIND CONTROL WEAPONS
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) introduced a bill in the House of Representatives late last year that would ban weapons in space. But while there have been many similar legislative initiatives in the past, Rep. Kucinich's bill is distinguished by its unusually expansive definition of "weapons."
Among the weapons that it would proscribe the new measure includes "psychotronic" devices that are "directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of ... mood management, or mind control."
No explanation for this peculiar proposal was immediately available. But the text of "The Space Preservation Act of 2001" (H.R. 2977), introduced on October 2, may be found here:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/2001/hr2977.html

Wacky guy that Dennis

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Is "pro-life," and believes federal judges should overturn the 1973 Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision as "bad law and bad medical science."

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For the women of South Dakota: an abortion manual

I understand that you're probably really angry right now. Maybe you're reading a blog expressing that anger -- the anger that your state thinks it knows better than you what to do with your body. Maybe you're anxiously wondering where the nearest abortion clinic is, now that you will have to leave the state to get to one. If you have a serious medical condition, you might be doubling up on birth control methods, leading to a lot of worry and possibly negative side effects.

But what you need right now isn't the righteous anger the rest of the blogosphere will give you. You need more.

In the 1960s and early 1970s, when abortions were illegal in many places and expensive to get, an organization called Jane stepped up to the plate in the Chicago area. Jane initially hired an abortion doctor, but later they did the abortions themselves. They lost only one patient in 13,000 -- a lower death rate than that of giving live birth. The biggest obstacle they had, though, was the fact that until years into the operation, they thought of abortion as something only a doctor could do, something only the most trained specialist could perform without endangering the life of the woman.

They were deceived -- much like you have probably been deceived. An abortion, especially for an early pregnancy, is a relatively easy procedure to perform. And while I know, women of South Dakota, that you never asked for this, now is the time to learn how it is done. There is no reason you should be beholden to doctors -- especially in a state where doctors have been refusing to perform them, forcing the state's only abortion clinic to fly doctors in from elsewhere.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Julia, I think you got another one wrong; "opposes gun control", that would help him not hurt him!
Sure, he may lose some guys in Berkley who have bald heads and pony tails but gun control only appeals to a very small audience.
What was that second amendment case about and where was it?

Washington DC
http://instapundit.com/archives2/003206.php
What not everyone wants to have thier 2 ammendment rights taken away...
lol thats only a liberal position hell its not even a dem issue in the south.