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Pro-Domination - 3/10/2007 1:29:23 PM   
Master96


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I have the impression, which is most likely correct, that Pro-Dommes have a better career than Pro-Doms. Except if Pro-Doms accept gay clients.

Do sub-women pay for Pro-Dommes? Or they just don't pay whether the dominant is male or female?

Just curious :D

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/10/2007 1:40:10 PM   
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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/10/2007 1:45:55 PM   
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You don't often hear of Pro Dom who only work with female clients. We had one locally but he didn't last very long.



Do you mean Pro Dommes usually work with both genders as well?

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/10/2007 3:24:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am not a Pro Domina but I have heard that they work with both sexes.

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/10/2007 7:56:41 PM   
Shylahgirl


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Status: offline 		Ok, this is comming from my short experince as a Pro- Domme, I also happen to know quite a few other pro Dommes who had been at it a lot longer them me.
 
Most "slaves" who wish to "serve" a Pro-Dom/Domme are doing so because it turns them on, nothing more. The Dom/Domme tells them what to do, they cum, ether during or after the session, and they've gotten their moneys worth. 
 
They are for the most part not very atractive and usually older gentelmen who are ether afraid of the real BDSM scene or have worn out their welcome whith those who don't require money.
 
I have never heard of a woman paying for a male Dom. Or a male Dome being in high enough demand to make a living off Pro-Domanation. Unless that is you except gay men and eventually, during the course of a session have sex with them.
 
A Pro- Domme is doing a service... it is not real D/s in any sense of the word, because the Domme/Dom is being payed to please the "Slave". If the Slave is not pleased then the Domme/Dom doesn't get what they want. Who is really in charge here?
 
O, I know there are those who say, "I want to pay you to do what ever you want to me" or "I will do what ever you want, it doesn't matter just use me" if money is involved and the "Slave" stops paying, then what does the Domme/Dom do? Other then stop working for the "Slave", which by the way if they stop paying you, they want you to stop working any way ;)
 
If you are looking to do Professional Domination as a way to both have D/s and make money I should tell you that, sadly, you can only have one or the other.
 
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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/10/2007 8:21:18 PM   
Master96


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Status: offline 		Well, I'm not that experienced to be a Pro. (It may not require much experience, I don't know) :p

Anyway, I'm not thinking going to Pro anytime in my life.

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/10/2007 8:25:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		The pros I knew never cared who was paying the bills, since it was their job. Male and Female pros both served both genders, though I didnt see very many female clients on their lists at all. It might be, though, that females have an easier time finding what they want outside of the professional venue, while a lot of the clientele they did have were fulfilling fantasies and not looking for antyhing more than a quck fix.

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/11/2007 4:25:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Partially it's supply and demand.  There's a lot more men in kink than there are women and many more male subs than female dommes.  Therefor, there's a bigger market for prodommes because of the sheer quantity of sub men who will pay for play for a variety of reasons, including not wanting any strings attached, not being able to find kink any other way, being involved in a vanilla relationship, etc.

The other part of the equation is that for women...if we just want to play or have sex casually with no strings attached, it just ain't hard to get - vanilla, kink, or otherwise.  We don't have to pay for it, so there's not nearly such a large market for someone who wants to charge us for it.

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/11/2007 5:02:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		"If you are looking to do Professional Domination as a way to both have D/s and make money I should tell you
that, sadly, you can only have one or the other."
 
They can however provide ... bondage, discipline, S&M, fetish, role play, age play, slave training, sissification, feminisation, spanking, suspension, mindfarks, Goddess worship, interogation, electrical play, medical play, maid training, humiliation, pussy/cock and ball torture, etc, etc ... and make a shit load. 
 
"A Pro- Domme is doing a service... it is not real D/s in any sense of the word, because the Domme/Dom is being payed to please the "Slave". "
 
And you define D/s how?  Particularly the real kind.

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/11/2007 9:29:12 AM   
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"If you are looking to do Professional Domination as a way to both have D/s and make money I should tell you
that, sadly, you can only have one or the other."
 
They can however provide ... bondage, discipline, S&M, fetish, role play, age play, slave training, sissification, feminisation, spanking, suspension, mindfarks, Goddess worship, interogation, electrical play, medical play, maid training, humiliation, pussy/cock and ball torture, etc, etc ... and make a shit load. 
 
"A Pro- Domme is doing a service... it is not real D/s in any sense of the word, because the Domme/Dom is being payed to please the "Slave". "
 
And you define D/s how?  Particularly the real kind.


I ment that it's not real D/s becuase the power exchange dynamic is all messed up; a.k.a. the "Slave" is in charge, becuae they have the money and that is what the Domme/Dom wants, so their for the Domme/Dom much keep the "Slave" happy to recive what they want.
 
And to clearafy I am a submissive in a 24/7 real life D/s relationship what real D/s feels like to me and when I was doing Pro- Domination it in no way shape or form felt like D/s... it bearly felt like a scene.
 
Shylah

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/11/2007 9:50:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have to admit as a female sub I would never pay for domination - then again it may well come down to supply and demand - in that the majority of female subs are very much in demand and would never need to pay as such.
Also for me - I think the sheer act of paying for domination would put the power FAR to much in my hands, It would do nothing for me to have that control

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/11/2007 9:56:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why would a female submissive or slave have to pay to be Dominated? As others have stated, they can get what they want without having to pay. If they are with a Master or Mistress and dont like what is going on, they can simply move on to another. *Shrugs* Such is life.

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/11/2007 10:26:48 AM   
hisannabelle


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Status: offline 		shylah, it's my own experience that 24/7-ers (like you and me) are not always the majority of those into d/s or bdsm, so i do think it's quite unfair to impose that viewpoint and call it "true d/s" or "true bdsm."

that said, i see pro-domination as something akin to prostitution, or escorting...both of which i have a lot of respect for, personally, and would like to try. the difference is the point of the action, even though it's accomplished through bdsm activities, is to please the client. (just as an aside, i've come to see financial domination as an entirely different thing from pro domination, personally.)

that said, it does seem that pro-dommes would have far more lucrative careers than pro-doms, although i never really considered the glbt standpoint before.

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/11/2007 10:42:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		I hate that word true and real to relate to the bdsm lifestyle,Whats true and real to one may be totally different to another..THE percentage of 24-7 in this lifestyle is smaller then one may think.OF course as always just this ol" masters view on the subject...bounty

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/11/2007 11:49:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'll agree with most on here that it is a supply and demand issue, much like vanilla sex, you don't find many women going to male prostitutes, you also don't see female subs seeking Pro-Doms.
However, in my view, whether money changes hands or not, the submissive is very much in control.  They are submitting themselves to another by choice.  They are doing this to get what they want.  And if at some point it becomes something that they don't want, they have a way out.  Much as the professional has to please her client, a non professional has to please his or her partner.
Let's not kid ourselves here.  We toss around the word "slave" a lot.  This folks is not slavery.  I am assuming that everyone on this site is on here of their own free will.  If there is a "true" slave out there, post a message for help, we'll call 911 for you.

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/11/2007 2:46:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		In the five years my partner was a Pro Domme she had two female clients. One enjoyed herself and the other was there because a domanant husband thought it would get her over not wanting to play with other women.

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/11/2007 2:55:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		To be honest if it weren't for Pro-Dommes, i wouldn't have had any bdsm experiences in my whole life, and i think that's wrong on several levels.

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/11/2007 2:59:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		So the question paulthesub is what are YOU going to do about it. No Domme owes it to you until she agrees to do so. [You didn't say any did.]

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/11/2007 5:53:20 PM   
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To be honest if it weren't for Pro-Dommes, i wouldn't have had any bdsm experiences in my whole life, and i think that's wrong on several levels.

Interesting point.
I agree that it may be hard for some people to find particularly a female domme-- and one that fits their kink desires, personality, location, and time availability-- well, It can be hard sometimes given the location you live in, relationship status, and time you have to spend searching or even playing....... it can take a lot of time. [as we all here know! ]

Some people don't have the time needed or even desire a relationship or may be in an area where there is no one compatible, it is not all that easy to find a compatible Female Domme, i would say that is the hardest to find. Hell, even if you find one in your area, she has preferences too and you might not be it or have a compatible schedulle.

I understand why it can be frustrating for a male sub and that they have needs to, I feel for that and like that I can help with that. Better for someone to meet those needs however they can [in a safe way] then wait arround forever and deny who you are and what you need. Life is too short for that!


Seeing a pro-domme doesn't mean you stop the search for others but it is nice to have in the interum, gain experience, and learn about yourself in a low pressure setting.
Plus, it's just fun! Like anything else in the world/hobby/entertainment/activities that cost money to participate.....
It's not free to Golf just because you like it or want it or Sky Dive or anything else. More power to ya if you can find someone that matches your thang, but if you can't no sense putting off your life-- Only got one to Live!!  


I have heard of pro male doms. There is one in Greensboro, nc that works as part of a house, i'm not sure as to their business flow though. I agree though with what others have said that everything is supply and demand-- there are more Male doms in general so a sub would have a pretty good chance of finding someone/being able to have her pick. Personally, i can see the benefits of a pro-Dom but not sure a lot of women would.... just depends i guess. Best Wishes to anyone trying it!!

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RE: Pro-Domination - 3/14/2007 4:51:36 PM   
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So the question paulthesub is what are YOU going to do about it. No Domme owes it to you until she agrees to do so. [You didn't say any did.]


i'm not sure i understand what You are asking Ma'am.

While i do play with a Pro-Domme, i am still looking for my soulmate whom at this point in my life i expect to be a Dominant Female. Right now i am just happy to be experiencing all these new feelings and sensations though


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