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RE: The OWK - 3/11/2007 4:38:57 PM

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Hey, I can't help but comment on such an intriguing thread. Yes, I'm familliar with the OWK site; like most male subs, I came across it in a juvenile search for internet porn. Which begs an interesting question about the relationship between female domination and porn in general. Virtually all femdom porn is made with men in mind, catering to specific male fantasies that allow men to conveniently pick and choose something to get them off. The so-called dominant women in the films are really being objectified by these men, getting used to just satisfy a male urge for orgasm. The whole business of mixing femdom with money in my mind sets up a system where men are the ones in charge, paying for a selfish sexual satisfaction. Which of course, is the antithesis of what femdom should be. And i think it sets up a warped sense of expectations for real-life kink. Which is why so many of the dommes on this site complain about clueless male subs messaging them with fantasy fullfillment on the mind.

You guys shoudl check out the Venus girls videos. They involve femdom situations, but the films are all dirceted by women.

Sorry to rant. But this has always struck me as the great irony of being a male sub. I guess I'm sort of a submissive purist; my pleasure comes from working extensively to give a woman plessure. But it's easy for me to say I guess; I've never actually been denied orgasm for an extended period. Thoughts?

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RE: The OWK - 3/11/2007 5:52:56 PM

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Professionals are in the business of fantasy fulfilment. Certain marketing techniques work better than others on a specific demographic. It's basic marketing.

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RE: The OWK - 8/27/2007 11:58:21 PM

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I was thinking of going to OWK next year, but I've heard that the property isn't as well-maintained as it could be. Someone suggested La Domaine Esemar, which doesn't have the FemDom focus, but seems to have more comfortable accommodations. Plus, Esemar is in New York, so even if I wound up not liking it, I could always go out and tour vineyards or something. I have no idea what alternative entertainment would be in CZ if I found myself in that situation at OWK.

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RE: The OWK - 8/28/2007 12:21:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: haremseeker

Thanks for all your replies.

As I viewed to OWK videos, It came to my mind that, if this was acting, than the sub actors are going to need a serious health care program. Some subs are beaten till they bleed. Some have needles inserted in their penis. This not seem to be safe, sane and consensual. How much can an actor be paid to accept this kind of treatment?

Haremseeker

I'm simply in awe and shock right now. In fact almost speechless. In regards to the OWK and videos such as this, let's just say I'm somewhat familar with this topic. I don't know how much these actors get paid honestly. Interesting topic to think about and even give second thought to.

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RE: The OWK - 8/28/2007 2:21:48 AM

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Yes, OWK is real. Yes there are some ladies living there who provide services to single male visitors but its also open to couples and groups and single ladies. Think of it as a fantasy retreat rather than a 24/7 pro-domme session.

Though quite why I should defend it I dont know. They dont let the likes of me in.

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RE: The OWK - 8/28/2007 6:54:28 AM

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This is an aside. I signed up for the "the movies" here on CM, and I must way those OWK videos are pretty bad. Everything is highly staged, the production values are unimaginative, and the scenes uninspiring. Don't even ask about the dialogue. I was disappointed b/c I had thought that a femdom bastion might have *captured something* more real about the femdom-malesub dynamic, and this was absolutely not the case.

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Unfortunately, that's true of the vast majority of all BDSM videos. Dialogue in particular tends to be very unnatural. Scenes are typically uninspiring, subs are passive, and the focus is totally on physical acts which are virtually removed from any psychological context. The sub is a bump on a log, allowing the domme to simply do things to him.

I'd love to see a video that emphasized a domme manipulating a sub into a position where he's helpless, and she's completely in control, then having her way with him, whether he likes it or not. Regarding the OWK, I think they ought to create a video that follows a sub through his experience there, showing highlights from arrival/registration/processing to departure, and including scenes from the different types of stays that subs can have there.

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RE: The OWK - 8/28/2007 7:18:42 AM

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The submissives in the Owk films are not paid. They pay for the privelege of being the sub in the film

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RE: The OWK - 8/28/2007 7:21:02 AM

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Achhhh did not see that last post. Unforntuantely you have to join the paid members section of OWK to follow slaves through what the experience in various situations at the OWK

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RE: The OWK - 8/28/2007 8:46:26 AM

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Achhhh did not see that last post. Unforntuantely you have to join the paid members section of OWK to follow slaves through what the experience in various situations at the OWK

Thanks for that tip. I haven't visited the site in a very long time, and didn't know they even had something like that.

I think I'd get a thrill out of a visit to the OWK, but there's also the potential for a complete disappointment. Obviously, it's not truly real, it's a fantasy fulfillment experience, but if it's done right, it can really feel real.

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