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Termyn8or -> RE: Der Spiegel: 5 troops/day deserting or AWOL. (3/14/2007 12:39:54 PM)
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I could never serve these people.
Remember a movie called Black Rain ? The Japanese drug kingpin said he wouldn't be satisfied until every child in the US was a heroin addict. Why ?
Why can we nuke Japan but not Germany ?
Money. Germany had an infrastructure we could exploit, Japan did not.
Eddie at work had a question the other day which was one of those "Why do they do that ?" type of questions about the government. I said "They want it that way". I told him I couldn't answer fully, we would have to go out for a beer or something, or better yet to my house where I can show him evidence of why, and actually they want things the way they are.
RealOne, I don't want to hijack, but I was unaware of a newspaper warning of the Pearl Harbor attack. IIRC evidence of FDR's complicity is indicated by documents found with the FOIA. There is supposed to be a memo from intelligence, but he might not have believed it, so complicity is not proven.
However there is another document that came right after that, but still before the attack, orders to dismantle some of the most expensive equipment at the base and remove it. I can't say for sure that FDR signed it, but the Commander In Chief should know something like that. Nonetheless, the Commander In Chief is responsible.
If you have evidence of this newspaper article, can you give us a link ? I would very much like to see it.
Back to the subject, I would suggest that any young person considering going into the military should visit a VA hospital. They say a picture is worth a thousand words, but if you get a thousand words from someone who has actually been there, I think it's worth a "look".
I have not been to war, and to those who have - thank you for putting your ass on the line for me. Whether you were doing it for our country or not, you thought you were. That is what counts.
If you want to join the military now, after a battery of psychological screens of course (lol), do it because you want to help the troops. You go to Iraq you are not helping the country, you are helping the rich get richer, but there can be one good reason.
Our troops are getting spread pretty thin, they are outnumbered and targets all the time. Some may actually feel a responsibility to go and help our troops.
And please, don't enough people ever enlist to get the neocons cocksure about invading Iran. Holy shit, does anyone even have a grasp on this ? (RealOne, judge for yourself whether to respond here or start a thread).
If we invade Iran, lemme clue you in on a few things. Most Arab countries are held by force. You see the ones not getting bombed ? Notice also that we have military bases there. Why ? To help the government that "we" support stay in power. Right now the possible insurgents in these countries don't have it bad enough to act up. But world events could inflame their tempers, and we could have problems. We are talking about governments "we" support that are going to have problems controlling insurgencies. That means our troops will have to go and help them as well.
Some of these sects, Sunni, Shiite etc., even in different countries have not only been displaced in history from time to time, some of them hold a fierce, family like loyalty to others in their group, even in other countries.
Mark my words, this situation is alot more dangerous than these fuckheads in government think it is.
Add to that the fact that we are cast in an ever darker light by two potential big problems. Russia and China. China could cripple our economy with the stroke of a pen. I hear Russia's army isn't that great but they got some gnarly weapons. Russia will probably stay out of it if at all possible, but I don't think we can beat them on their own soil, and don't count on them as a ally.
As things progress, all this money is borrowed, and China might decide those Tbills aren't so good anymore. The stroke of the pen might not be a punitive act at all, but they have to act in the best interest of their own economy. It may be a matter of losing faith before losing face.
In light of all this, they still have to have Iran no matter how much shit hits the fan. Ever play the game Risk ? It's a map, you get armies you move here and there and the idea is to take over the world. I think the neocons think that the world is a big game of risk.
Have your youngsters visit that VA hospital.
T
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