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money - 2/27/2007 4:11:57 PM

simplewhispers

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do you support your sub financially if they are 24/7 with you , how about online with of couse with meetings, do you help support them if they are in need ?

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 4:13:27 PM

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Nah al muh bitchs hav'ta pay me.

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 4:15:14 PM

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Nah al muh bitchs hav'ta pay me.

And don't forget to spell FukinTroll with no "c" or "g" on the check.

(I get a percentage)

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 4:16:21 PM

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Exactamundo!

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 4:16:30 PM

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If I accept a 24/7 sub, they are not going to be in need of my support. I expect them to be able to give to the house. If I had enough work to be done around the home to warrant a stay at home, i might consider it, but for now thats just not useful. I have financialy helped out when it has been needed. When I visited here, I paid my own way and didnt ask for any help. Until I have met someone and gotten to know them, I would not help out somoene online financially. Thats running the risk of falling into any one of the stupid scams run on here.

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 4:18:19 PM

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Other way around.

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 4:31:02 PM

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I think the assumption of the OP is that, for some, 24/7 means that the sub/slave does not work and has no means of support other than their relationship with the dominant/Master/Mistress. For most people, myself included, this is usually not the arrangement.

I have had relationships (live-in and otherwise) where the fortunes of my partners went sour and I was in a position to be able to help. Naturally, any 'help' I provided was meant to be in the form of loans, to be paid back when times were better.

One notable case was where I helped a sub of mine purchase a car and co-signed on the loan. She was able to make the first payment, then her situation changed. As I was obligated (as a signor on the loan), I made the remainder of the payments. I was fortunate at the time to be making an income where, although it was clearly a nuisance to have to make her payments for her, I was able to without straining myself.

All told, between her and a couple of others, I have invested roughly $20,000 on 'loans' over the years without seeing a nickle back.

Does that answer your question?

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 4:34:39 PM

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I think unless the Dom/Master is rich most couples both work and both support the household.
If the Dom can afford his sub to stay home of course he'd have to not only provide food and shelter, but all the things the sub would not be able to buy like medical care, presents for family members, clothing etc...as her job now became serving him only.
I'd also say it's possible to have the Dom stay home and the sub support them too.
I don't think it's a cookie cutter answer type of question, but I think most couples help each other.
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RE: money - 2/27/2007 4:34:51 PM

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At this time I can not afford to support a submissive. Any submissive would need to work outside the house and bring in enough to support themselves and contribute to the family income stream. A part-time job at fairly low pay rate would handle that. If there were sufficient money it might be possible for one person to become a live in where everyone in the household subsidized their being here. That is not the case at the moment though.

As for helping out, I help out a lot of people, not just submissive. A number of people have briefly camped out in my house while they got settled. And as for a submissive under my care, well family is family and if a member runs on hard times you don’t kick them out into the street. Before sending someone money to visit there would be a lot of talk. Without a face to face there is no way to really get a feel for what a person is like. But example if they were moving in they would have some time to get settled and find a job. We would have reached a mutual risk point.

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 4:38:06 PM

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Aren't loans lovely? I hold a far amount of worthless paper myself.

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 4:46:27 PM

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quote:

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Aren't loans lovely? I hold a far amount of worthless paper myself.

Well, um, no.

But to add to what you mentioned, some of these same people, when the relationship had run their course were financially unable to move, or took some weeks or months in order to have anywhere to go.

I might have seemed indignant from the prior post, but I'm not, and I'm no monster. I might have grumbled between my teeth, but I was patient while they did what they needed to do.

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 4:46:39 PM

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Hey Troll, (he hee) I got a nickle...............

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 4:52:22 PM

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You seemed grumbly perhapes but not indignant. I thought you stated the reality of making loans to others well. Personally, I don't loan money I am not willing to lose. I don't make business loans anymore, no amount of interest would pay for the risk involved.

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 4:54:31 PM

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quote:

do you help support them if they are in need ?

I don't support my slave, I support us.

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 4:56:56 PM

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quote:

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Hey Troll, (he hee) I got a nickle...............

Here's your nickle's worth.

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 5:03:24 PM

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No, I do not support my submissive husband financially. Matter of fact, I do not work myself. Subhub is the sole breadwinner. As Mercnbeth said, it isn't about one of us or the other. We are a unit.

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Nah al muh bitchs hav'ta pay me.

Aw damn, guess that means I can't be one of ya bitchs then, since I don't have a job.....

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 5:09:03 PM

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It's all good. We can let the slaves do the work and we just supply the beatings!

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 5:10:59 PM

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Why would I be attracted to a women who is not employable? I don't understand why someone would not want to work or be incapable of doing so? Why anyone would want to pay someone's way? says much about the shortcomings of both parties....If someone were going for an education that would be the only exception outside of an illness.

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 5:11:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: simplewhispers

do you support your sub financially if they are 24/7 with you , how about online with of couse with meetings, do you help support them if they are in need ?

He doesn't support me financially, but He does pay for a lot of our toys, as well as dinners out and things like that, or any trips we take together, because i'm a poor college student ;) in my previous D/s relationship, which was an ldr, my dominant and i took turns paying for trip expenses. i would never expect a dominant to support me fully unless s/he expected me not to work and only to do housework.

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RE: money - 2/27/2007 5:12:33 PM

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Nobody is getting their hands on my funds without my express agreement, it's a limit of mine. My Daddy knows this, and also knows something about investments, but so far has not suggested potentially managing mine. It would require a lot of trust on my part, but he does know a heck of a lot more than I do about managing money. I will cross that bridge when-if I get there. I am a submissive though, not a slave.

My suggeston is people discuss these things before they become a slave. It is between the two parties. It's whatever works for them both, IMO. As usual, I recommend optmism, tinged w/caution.

In the "vanilla" world, quite often when-if a married couple divorces, one is less better off financially than before, due to that, and financial mismanagment of one person's funds can also become an issue, so the potential for problems to occur due to the nature of a relationship is not limited to M/s relationships.

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