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FukinTroll -> RE: Doggie woes...... (2/26/2007 4:17:03 PM)
Seriously, have the Ol man piss on him. It works every time for me.

MistressDiane -> RE: Doggie woes...... (2/26/2007 4:19:26 PM)
Thanks everyone for all your suggestions I'll keep you posted. Anything else that comes to mind please let me know.

Mikal -> RE: Doggie woes...... (2/26/2007 4:28:53 PM)
Here’s my 2 cents worth: Dogs that become aggressive towards another person in the family are usually insecure. This can happen from a variety of reasons, but I don’t think that’s overly important atm. If you don’t already do so, I’d suggest BOTH you and hubby spend quality time with your pooch (individually and together but without the two of you getting it on with each other). This will help Zeak to learn to trust the both of you, and to realize that he doesn’t need to attack hubby to get your attention. You also have to make sure that he understands that he is low man on the totem pole. ‘Alpha rolling’ is a good way to make this point (I had to do this with my dog – my folks thought it was cruel (?) but she is never aggressive towards me and always obeys. My folks on the other hand… they put up with naughty behaviour). Also, when Zeak starts nipping and whatnot, tell him NO in a firm voice (don’t yell – he’ll likely take it to mean that you are upset but not clue in that its him upsetting you). Then tell him to lay down and stay. YOU MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THIS. Otherwise he will keep trying until you break-down again – just like kids do. Once he lays & stays, reward him with lots of praise and treats (if you give treats). My last bit of advice is to enroll him in an obedience class designed for older dogs. This will both socialize him, and make him less insecure. Good luck, and keep us posted! Edited 'cause breaks in between paragraphs is a good thing [:D]

MistressDiane -> RE: Doggie woes...... (2/28/2007 4:59:06 PM)
smiles he definitely has issues, always has. One of the reasons I picked him from the litter was because of the way he approached me. I sat down in the pen with all the pups bouncing all over me when I felt a slight tug on my hair. I turned around and looked and there he was with his 1 1/2 blue eyes bashfully looking at me. I didn't even see him when I first looked at the pups as he was off to the side. He was so adorable and unique (I've never seen a Border Collie colored quite like him). His mother was also shy but very dedicated to her work on the sheep farm.

kisshou -> RE: Doggie woes...... (3/1/2007 3:39:43 AM)
Just reading all your posts shows how you are sending mixed messages. On the one hand you want the beahvior to stop but on the other you sound proud of how he is so protective and attached to you. I am sure your dog feels that too , instead of feeling that the man is in charge. It amazes me that you would keep an animal that is overtly aggresive towards the man of the house. Growling is bad, that dog should feel submissive to you and never growl at any human being. You need to be a hell of alot firmer, be the alpha of the pack and let him know that behavior is not acceptable in no uncertain terms. Stop sending mixed messages and take the situation seriously. What if the dog started growling at a toddler? Also if you don't get it on cable see if you can get any copies of 'The Dog Whisperer" show , you will learn all sorts of great things about dogs and training techniques. Sorry if I sound harsh but just again this week in my town another small child was attacked by a dog. I know you are sitting there thinking how much you love your dog , how he would never do that .... while I sat here and read that he is GROWLING (aggressive) towards the Man of the house and is pissing all over your stuff.

StellaByStarlite -> RE: Doggie woes...... (3/1/2007 5:02:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail exactly this way, when he comes to growl and guard, you can remind him that he is not attending to his job watching and husbanding the critters. My grandparents had a dog Ring (collie) that retired from sheep farming, the dog would be told get the horses, he was gentle, the dog would get the cows for milking, again gentle but not taking any shit, sheep or pigs.......they did what he said. At retirement, the dog had nothing to do, so unfortunately it decided it's job would be to keep the tire swing in the front yard free of unmentionable human debris---- This led to some issues. There was a groundswell of grandchildren about the place, and they needed pig and sheep style watching as far as that dog was concerned, without direction to the contrary. The dog died at 26 actual years old, when I was 24, my great uncle, then an old man of around 87 did not see the dog laying in the shade under the car, and by that time Ring was deaf and arthritic, and didnt get out of the way, of course my grandparents et al were horridly heartbroken. But that is what collies are good at, their job, and if you dont give them one, they will assume their own responsibilites.....they need it to be whole in the world. Ron Hello. =) That is so true when it comes to working/herding type dogs. We have a half Malinois belgian shepherd and she needs to be given a "job" or else she'll find mischief of her own to get into. MistressDiane: You've been given great ideas so far, but I'll throw in a word of caution. Herding breeds are highly intelligent and respond better to praise and rewards then punishment. I tried the whole "alpha" type stuff on my dog and she ended up being pretty resentful. It sounds like a socialization and aggression problem, so just be careful not to aggravate that with negative reinforcement. I'm not sure how to deal with aggressiveness, but I do know that with a herder, try to start any behavioral training session with a decent bit of exercise. A good long brisk walk, or 30 minutes of fetch. Good luck, Stella

BRNaughtyAngel -> RE: Doggie woes...... (3/1/2007 8:15:02 AM)
Because of the obsessive nature of herding breeds, and the fact he doesn't have a "weal" job, he's now turned his obsession to you. There are all sorts of classes you could do with him such as obedience, agility, flyball, rally-o, herding to redirect his focus. Even though he's a BC and came instilled with herding instincts, you may consider taking him to actual herding classes and then get him some sheep or duckies to herd at home. But one thing I'd suggest is that hubby get involved in his training so that he sees him as the alpha male of the household, and they develop a strong bond between the two of them. Good luck to all of you.

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