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Sinergy -> Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 3:21:16 PM)

 
Hello A/all,

So last night around 9pm I am quietly enjoying a movie and I hear gunshots (a lot of gunshots) going off as well as the flashes from them about a block away.  I cannot see past the apartment down to the street, but I know right where they are coming from.

So I call 911, let them listen to the gunfire going off.  They indicate there is a movie being filmed around the corner about a half mile away.  I say no, this is a block away.  The get the firemen on the phone.  We have a chat, I say that it sounds like somebody is actively shooting near a military base 2 blocks away, or else at the local beach.

They say they will send somebody out to investigate.  I go back to watching my movie.  The gunfire goes on for a bit, then stops.

The police call me back about an hour later and let me know there is a gunfire event thing at the military base.  The military base in question provides housing to people around bird colonel and up, with the biggest Brass being a 3 star general.  They indicate it is known about and everything is hunky dory.

While I am thankful the police are doing their job.  I want to take a moment to thank them for taking a bit of time to call me up and let me know everything was ok.

Sinergy




Sinergy -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 3:26:13 PM)

Hello A/all,

I was staying in this hotel (business travel) the night this happened...

http://www.keyt.com/home/ticker/5925131.html

When I realized the gunfire was not coming into my hotel room, I sat down on the floor and waited for the police to arrive. 

On a positive note, a 9mm cannot shoot through the metal hotel room doors.  7 of the bullets splintered the window (grouping pattern about 6 feet wide with two of the shoots 8 feet off the floor; not an expert marksman) and 3 left divots in the door.

The police showed up eventually without having any sirens on. 

It was nice of them to tie the police tape next to my door so I could leave and go to work.  Additionally, it was nice of them to tell me to take anything I needed because I was not going to be able to get back in my room for a few hours.

Sinergy




kisshou -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 4:01:18 PM)

Hiya,

I was a passenger in a convertible vw with my boyfriend (at that time) driving down in New York City. We had gone out to dinner and were heading back home to Ct. Someone ran a red light and smashed into the car, right where I was sitting. The car was totalled, my forehead cracked into the windshield , yes I was wearing a seatbelt, and I was knocked unconscious. I was completely covered in blood, my boyfriend thought I was dead. I regained consciousness briefly while being loaded into the ambulance.

The policeman who arrived at the accident and then went to the ER told my boyfriend to insist on a plastic surgeon. He had one of those thick New York accents. So my boyfriend insisted , we were really young and this would have never occured to us. I took 80 teeny, tiny stitches in my forehead and have absolutly no scars.

The policeman went above and beyond, he cared and gave us great advice and I am forever thankful.




WyrdRich -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 4:02:07 PM)

        We arrived home after an overnight trip last week to find a couple new messages on the answering machine.  Both were from our local Sheriff dept.  The first said that a burglary suspect, possibly armed, was on the run in our neighborhood, and advised locking doors, staying inside and calling any information to the local dispatch.  The second was an ‘all clear’ call. 
       As often as I’ve watched the ghetto bird circle over me in some of the places I’ve lived over the years, this was the first time I’ve had such a call.  Pretty cool I think.




juliaoceania -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 4:23:19 PM)

My Daddy knows about this because I called him while i was on my way home. On the bus on my way to the train there was an incident in Long Beach in which two cops were shot and critically wounded. They were locking down LA as I was leaving it. The bus pulled up just as cops and ambulance pulled up.. and I thought how dangerous what the police do is, and how thankful I am that someone is willing to take that risk to serve and protect.

But I can turn around when police are abusive and call them on that abuse of trust too... it is a huge responsibility and with that comes more obligation I suppose




domiguy -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 4:35:27 PM)

Friends of mine (who don't happen to be white) called the police,around midnight, to inform them that some guy was trying to crawl into the window of their daughter's room....When the police showed up the next day they were extremely thankful.




LadyIce -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 5:48:03 PM)

Nice thread Sinergy, I would also like to thank the "good" police officers.
We owe them a lot.




farglebargle -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 6:34:53 PM)

GOOD COPS don't get ANY recognition until they clean up their own.

Beating up media photographers doing their job.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=280&topic_id=26745&mesg_id=26745

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Anyway, on Tuesday night, I parked in my usual spot and was having a cell phone conversation with my editor on this story, informing her of all the progress I had done so far. She seemed very excited about it and told me she couldn't wait to read it.

I hung up the phone when I noticed five cops surrounding a man, threatening him with arrest. They were standing in a gravel area between the road and the sidewalk and I was standing on the gravel as well, but I was about 20 yards from them. The gravel area is part of the expansion construction that has been ongoing on the Blvd. One day, it will be open to all cars, but now, it is off-limit to cars.

One of the cops told me to keep walking because this was a "private matter".
I said that I will not keep walking because this is a "public street".
Within seconds, the five officer left the first man alone and came after me. One cop escorted me across the road. As I stood on the sidewalk on the opposite side of the road, the cops began surrounding me, which was when I shot several more shots.

That was when they slammed me against the pavement even though I offered no resistance, causing a deep abrasion on my right knee. One officer grabbed me by the back of the head and repeatedly bashed my forehead against the sidewalk, causing abrasions and swelling to the right side of my forehead.

Another officer grabbed my right hand and bent it backwards in a 90 degree angle, causing me to scream out in pain and continuing to do so even after the handcuffs were placed on me. As I verbally protested, one officer threatened me with a taser gun if I did not stop talking.

The officers charged me with five counts of disobeying a police, one count of obstructing justice, one count of obstructing traffic, one count of disorderly conduct and one count of resisting arrest without violence.

On the arrest affidavit, the officers lied several times in order to justify their arrest. They accused me of photographing them without identifying myself, which is not true (and not even against the law as far as I know). As soon as one of the officers questioned me about taking photos, I immediately identified myself by name and profession.




Sanity -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 7:13:55 PM)

Wow sinergy, you're really having a bad week, aren't you. First you say you were pulled over by federal agents for surfing without a licence and hauled off to GITMO, then the movie you were watching was rudely interrupted by all that gunfire, and now this???

If I didn't know any better, I'd say you were just looking for some attention...

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

Hello A/all,

I was staying in this hotel (business travel) the night this happened...

http://www.keyt.com/home/ticker/5925131.html

When I realized the gunfire was not coming into my hotel room, I sat down on the floor and waited for the police to arrive. 

On a positive note, a 9mm cannot shoot through the metal hotel room doors.  7 of the bullets splintered the window (grouping pattern about 6 feet wide with two of the shoots 8 feet off the floor; not an expert marksman) and 3 left divots in the door.

The police showed up eventually without having any sirens on. 

It was nice of them to tie the police tape next to my door so I could leave and go to work.  Additionally, it was nice of them to tell me to take anything I needed because I was not going to be able to get back in my room for a few hours.

Sinergy




juliaoceania -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 7:19:53 PM)

quote:

If I didn't know any better, I'd say you were just looking for some attention...


You are saying that, so why pretend you are not? And why be abusive?




littleonyx -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 7:24:23 PM)

Hhhmmm...so then is it bad to avoid cops like the plague?  It's not that I don't like cops; I rather appreciate the good ones that are out there doing their jobs, catching bad folks and all.  And I know that there are some nasty ones, some dirty ones out there too.  But good or bad (which, of course, I'd likely have no way of telling the difference), I tend to cringe up around them and avoid them as much as possible.

What's wrong with me??




farglebargle -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 7:33:41 PM)

More like vampires, actually.

NEVER invite either a Cop or Vampire into the house.





littleonyx -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 7:46:49 PM)

I think you're right.  Personally, I find myself getting a bit of an attitude with them.  For no reason sometimes.  It's like I have this "Unless I know you as a friend or I call on you for help, then I don't even want you near me" kinda thing going on.  I see them looking at me, and then my neck goes crooked and my hands fly to my hips.  I stare them down just as easily as they stare me down--and it's not that anything bad in particular has happened to me, but...have had an unpleasant experience or two before. 

So um...what do I do?




Sinergy -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 8:02:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

And why be abusive?



Everybody needs a hobby, juliaoceania.

I never once said I was having a bad week.  Simply that I am having an eventful week.

Sinergy




farglebargle -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 8:10:20 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: littleonyx

I think you're right. Personally, I find myself getting a bit of an attitude with them. For no reason sometimes. It's like I have this "Unless I know you as a friend or I call on you for help, then I don't even want you near me" kinda thing going on. I see them looking at me, and then my neck goes crooked and my hands fly to my hips. I stare them down just as easily as they stare me down--and it's not that anything bad in particular has happened to me, but...have had an unpleasant experience or two before.

So um...what do I do?


Avoid them like they was the Gestapo.

Drive slower than the fast people on the Thruway.

Make sure your lights and signals work.

Just Lay Low, and let the retard who thinks they can change things take the nightstick to the head.

How'd Niven put it:

Don't throw shit at an armed man.

Don't stand next to someone throwing shit at an armed man.

...





proudsub -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 9:55:04 PM)

One day i noticed a sheriff's car and another car stopped near the top of our driveway, figured it was just a speeding ticket. Then i heard a single gun shot. That scared me because i didn't know if there was a bad guy on the loose, so i went inside, locked the doors and called the sheriff's dept.  They checked into and told me someone had hit a deer and they had to shoot it. What a relief!




VeryPrivateMstr -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 10:15:11 PM)

I am with LittleOnyx on this one. My dealings with police have not been good. I have never had an issue with them about breaking the law. It has been when I have asked for help, they were not willing to get involved, with one exception, and that was only when I threatened to take matters into my own hands. I think most police forces are under staffed. If there is a gun involved, it becomes a higher priority.




soultoshare -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 11:07:02 PM)

Police departments are SADLY understaffed.  If the public really knew about it, they'd be outraged.  I wouldn't live in the city of Phoenix to save my life.  I worked for the city as a Call-taker, and having to explain to the citizen calling up and complaining about not seeing an officer for 18 hours to get a burglary report taken sucked!  Mostly, it was all they could do to keep up with the priority one calls, reports are left for the wee hours of the morning.  I dispatched for the state police in IL, I usually had three troopers to cover 5 counties.  I've dispatched for cities all over the country, spent 47 minutes on the phone once with a woman I put under her bed while the two of us listened to two men rifling thru her drawers in a burglary.  They did catch the guys coming out the door, but there are so many ways that could have gone wrong.  I heard three of my officers get gunned down while I had the shooter on the phone.  I have lost close friends to gunfire.  And I'm an ex-cop.

Like any other profession, there are bastards that are out there.  I've worked with those arrogant cops who think a badge gives them carte blanc to treat people as something less than human.  I always made it a point to treat all people with respect, even the wife-beaters and rapists.  The other prisoners will make sure those bastards pay, the hard way.  I have arrested people who later said thank you for not treating them as scum......I'm prouder of that fact than any atta-boy I've ever recieved.  The good cops on the force know who the bad apples are, and contrary to TV and the movies, are not afraid to take steps to get them off the department.  For every bad cop out there, ther are 10 good ones.

But even tho I've worked with cops, been one.....I still get that sinking feeling in my stomach when one pulls out in traffic behind me.  But I have nothing to hide, and don't drive like a maniac, well, as long as they are behind me, anyway, and they just go about their business.  They are human, and as such, subject to the same human frailties that the rest of us are.  Unfortunately, the media only reports the bad cops.....whenever one of them do something that we consider heroic, they are never there.  The cop says he's just doing his job, the same thing I told my Chief when I went into a burning house to locate the owner.....the same thing I told my supervisor after the incident incvident involving the murder of two cops and the wounding of another....we don't do it for the glory, we don't do it for the money, we do it in the off chance that we can actually make a difference in someone's life.

OK...off the soapbox.......just my nickel's worth.

m




cyberdude611 -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/25/2007 11:25:50 PM)

Keep in mind also that the policies of the department is not always the greatest. Like Tampa a few weeks ago, a woman went to the police to report a rape, and the cops ended up arresting her because of a warrant she had several years ago for a minor misdemeanor, Not only that but while in a jail, a corrections nurse refused to give the woman the morning after pill because of religious reasons. The department is being sued now and being forced to change their policy.

Some police get so caught up in procedure and exactly what the law says that they start to lack basic common sense.




UtopianRanger -> RE: Giving thanks to police officers (2/26/2007 1:15:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy


Hello A/all,

So last night around 9pm I am quietly enjoying a movie and I hear gunshots (a lot of gunshots) going off as well as the flashes from them about a block away.  I cannot see past the apartment down to the street, but I know right where they are coming from.

So I call 911, let them listen to the gunfire going off.  They indicate there is a movie being filmed around the corner about a half mile away.  I say no, this is a block away.  The get the firemen on the phone.  We have a chat, I say that it sounds like somebody is actively shooting near a military base 2 blocks away, or else at the local beach.

They say they will send somebody out to investigate.  I go back to watching my movie.  The gunfire goes on for a bit, then stops.

The police call me back about an hour later and let me know there is a gunfire event thing at the military base.  The military base in question provides housing to people around bird colonel and up, with the biggest Brass being a 3 star general.  They indicate it is known about and everything is hunky dory.

While I am thankful the police are doing their job.  I want to take a moment to thank them for taking a bit of time to call me up and let me know everything was ok.

Sinergy



Dude.....

No offense to you or your post......but I'm up here in okie town Oregon with a bunch Mayberry R.F.D. boys, and they're okay…. But I gotta be honest with you..... I think when you look at the whole country.....we've got wayyyyy too many cops.....and way too many fat-asses pushing paper making 60 - 90k a year who are not worth it.

I see this working one or two different ways....either we make drugs legal and get rid of lots of cops that way.. or, we entice every citizen into purchasing a firearm and work the ''community policing '' angle a little more.....either way, I don't want to pay any more for higher saleries and / or higher taxes for more state/county/federal employees. We just can't afford it.



- R




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