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Sissy vs. TV vs. CD - 2/25/2007 1:15:46 PM

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I am moderately familiar with the transgendered scene, at least locally. I what a TV is (transvestite) and a CD (Crossdresser) but have only heard the word Sissy used in the most derogatory way. It is used here a lot and I am not sure what if any difference there is between what people mean by Sissy and a crossdresser.

I guess that breaks into too parts what people mean who identify as sissies and those that don’t. They are usually different in my experience.

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RE: Sissy vs. TV vs. CD - 2/25/2007 1:19:56 PM

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Now I am not really well versed, but I think of "sissy" as being someone that is into forced feminization, or that they do it only for the humiliation of it. They desire a woman to be a part of their cross dressing. I think of cross dressing as something intrinsic to a person's sexuality that will be engaged in regardless of the relationship structure and without a relationship. It is not a relationship-dependent activity and there is something fulfilling about the behavior itself... I could be wrong, but that is what I have understood about it.

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RE: Sissy vs. TV vs. CD - 2/25/2007 1:45:48 PM

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Ok, A TV (Transvestite) is a CD (Crossdresser) they are one in the same.
A TS (Transexual) is a person going thru hormone and reconstructive surgery to become the opposite sex.

A sissy is usually a bisexual, or gay male who likes to have sex with males while dressed as a female...AKA Drag Queen.
Or a male Submissive who is a crossdresser, and gains some gratification serving a Dominant while dressed as a woman.

Forced Femme is used by Domme's as a tool to emasculate, or humiliate otherwise heterosexual non crossdressing males.

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RE: Sissy vs. TV vs. CD - 2/25/2007 3:40:55 PM

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Sissy does not equal drag queen. Drag queens are guys, usually gay, who dress flamboyantly and have a completely new personality when they're dressed up. Technically, they're crossdressers although they may or may not be turned on by women's clothing like a fetishistic transvestite.

TVs, in my experience, like the feeling of women's clothing. Some may also have the "what if someone catches me?" thought that increases arousal. The vast majority of men who do this are straight.

Sissy sluts, or sissy maids, tend to be all about the super-feminine clothing - maid costumes, stockings, Mary Jane shoes, etc - and want to be displayed. That's what turns them on and they don't want to be seen as female - like a drag queen en femme, but as a guy dressed up.

Any voluntary form of playing with gender roles can be seen as "transgender", but it's a personal pet peeve of mine for people who are strictly straight TVs with a thing for pretty clothes to consider themselves that. I prefer the term being used for anyone who doesn't feel as if they fall strictly into the male/female gender binary. Transsexuals, like myself, are part of that heading.

I am nowhere near as eloquent as the former poster sissymaidlola, and there are far too many good posts of his to reference, but searching for the word "sissy" in a post made by him will hopefully inform you more.

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RE: Sissy vs. TV vs. CD - 2/26/2007 12:01:03 AM

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Just a quick comment aforehand. All of us could be labelled as wierdos by people who are "normal", and now we are talking labels amongst ourselves.

On to the topic. I agree, I think a sissy is not into it for the feel of the clothes, it is what you see in the mirror. It might be more of an aesthetic thing. I think a CD or TV gets pleasure from the clothes themselves, on them, not necessarily in the mirror. Shit, this is proving as easy to figure out as those other aspects of human psychology.

I am a full blown Man, I like Women. But I will admit I have some "underwear". The main thing that appeals to me is the fit and feel.

Really though, the bodyshaping of the things I have worn is an issue, perhaps the humiliation is poking my sub/bottom side. That is a component, but mainly it is the restriction, the confinement of the body. So I am not TS or CD, but I understand a bit.

I mean if I do this, looking in a mirror is an experience too. So subdued and not leaving the house.

I think sissies are looking for something other than what TV/CDs seek. It is a form of humiliation, and I think that is what they crave.

I don't want to infer that there is antything bad about kink with this nexr analogy, but it is the best I can come up with right now.

Drug abuse, whether it is alcohols, smoke, coke, crack, whatever, it all comes from one idea, or something in the mind. If people can stay legal and out of trouble they can abuse a substance for decades. But they point is, there is a basis for this behavior, and whatever the drug of choice is, that addictive bone the the person''s brain did it. What particular substance they abuse is simply the flavor they choose.

So, not wanting to get into the word game, that's another thread, kink is deviance. Now who the hell said deviance is bad. Of course engineers who find that their measuring instruments are a bit off, but you can't apply that to humanity.

Some would say that anything that sexually does not produce offspring is wrong. HELLO !, have you seem the population figures ?

Which brings us to my hypothesis, I think that kink and homosexuality is a response by the human race AS AN ORGANISM, in toto, to regulate itself.

This is really off topic, but I got this really good article written long ago about overpopulation, that is for another thread. But it states that when population increases, there are actually glandular changes, this was observed in animals, but then we are not vegetable nor mineral.

Whatever direction a person's kink takes is a personal thing, or their expression of it. I was at a fetish ball, and I had a blast, it was great. I saw a guy there in full baby garb, big sucker and all. A far cry from my attitude a long time ago, I actually admire his courage to go out and be in semi-public dressed up like that.

Never met the guy, but he kinda encouraged me to do my next outrageous thing, and this time it is totally legal and almost safe. I indend to go back to that club in a CB with a rear shield, all I have to do is resizre it. I want to figure out how to just wear chaps, so it is exposed. Of course I will wear a shirt and shoes. But if he has the balls to do that I should have the balls to do this.

I want to talk to that guy next time. Perhaps put some beer in his bawaa. That's not making fun of him, not at all. This is a different kink than mine, I want to hear about it.

I think we are all driven by the same basic thing, but we are driven in different directions.

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RE: Sissy vs. TV vs. CD - 2/26/2007 12:24:18 AM

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We discuss terminology because some people truly don't know the difference in semantics, Termyn8or. And explaining things tends to give the ones doing the explaining a chance to to understand themselves a little more by putting it into words. I'm not saying there's anything better or worse about each subset, aside from a pet peeve that is completely personal and that I have every right to have.

Semantical debates can be interesting and fun as long as it doesn't turn personal or into a back and forth "he said, she said" battle of words.

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RE: Sissy vs. TV vs. CD - 2/26/2007 3:10:30 AM

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Wikipedia has a goodly amount of information on these topics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transvestite

Follow the links on the right hand side of that page to the
Transgender series and LGBT Portal.

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RE: Sissy vs. TV vs. CD - 2/26/2007 4:05:00 PM

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Thank-you, all of you who responded. I now at least have a ball park idea of what people mean. I am familiar with CD, TV, pre/post/no-op transsexual, trangenderists, two-spirits, etc, etc. This is was not part of the gender community I had any familiarity with. Obviously when dealing with someone who identifies as a Sissy I will have to find out what they mean. In the end when dealing with people it boils down to self-identification.

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