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Interesting test but Rumsfeld and Cheney have made too many slips of the tongue and Rumsfeld's criticisms of the lack of British aggression in interrogating its prisoners was taken as needing to torture prisoners for info. Abu Ghraib was not a few soldiers out of control, it was institutional and that is the criticism I've heard made by many American commentators.

It's not that simple. The insurgency is even worse with the way they kill. They are violating the Geneva Conventions also since it states you are not allowed to use civilian clothing while engaging in combat. Insurgents also have targetted and killed many more civilians than the US has killed. Remember when they kidnapped Nick Berg and sawed off his head while screaming about how great and merciful Allah is. Are you saying that is allowed by the Geneva Conventions? Because I never hear any peace activists being critical of those acts.

It is irrelevent who is killing who, the US and its lapdog Britain created the situation in which so many people are getting killed. The idea was to fight for freedom and civilisation though I don't hear Bush talking about that anymore. How can you fight for civilised values if prisoners (they may well be innocent of any wrong doing) are being systematically tortured? The idea of being civilised and living by laws is to have higher values, that comes at a price. If America, and Britain for that matter are to lower themselves to the standards of their new found bogeymen, why should anyone in the world see the US and Britain as any better than the terrorists who murder? In fact the US and Briatain are just giving terrorists credibility by lowering themselves to the standards of terrorists. Which is my whole objection to the war, the US and Britain have become terrorists.